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Grand Theft Autobot posted:Here's the dataset. http://www.ggdc.net/maddison/Historical_Statistics/horizontal-file_02-2010.xls Carson's claim is not correct at all. China's economic collapse didn't occur until the 1880s,which in connection with a smaller slump in India allowed America to become first place. Of course if you don't count the two largest economies in the 1870s America comes first, but that's just deliberately ignoring the truth. Again: why are you trying to defend a blatantly false claim? He doesn't know what he's talking about, it's that simple! He probably misunderstood some anecdote that was probably about America surpassing Britain in the late 1860s (which would be under 100 years) and then just assumed Britain was the biggest before then.
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:Here's the dataset. http://www.ggdc.net/maddison/Historical_Statistics/horizontal-file_02-2010.xls This data is hard to argue about without the definition of country and the methodology for determining the GDP within that area at each data point.
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Joementum posted:He has often said he believes that women exercising their right to healthcare is worse than slavery. And if he thinks women getting healthcare is good, like any normal person would, then he must think slavery is truly excellent in comparison.
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hobbesmaster posted:This data is hard to argue about without the definition of country and the methodology for determining the GDP within that area at each data point. It's probably important to note that there were fairly extensive empires to consider at the time.
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Nov 12, 2015 04:40
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I can't speak to old economic superpower leaderboards, but I know King Cotton was a major business partner of Europe. I also know the Confederate States embargoed Europe to bring Europe against the United States, but instead the Confederate States ran out of money.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Carson's claim is not correct at all. China's economic collapse didn't occur until the 1880s,which in connection with a smaller slump in India allowed America to become first place. point of return posted:i want to see fishmech moderate his mental institution's debate
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Nov 12, 2015 04:55
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point of return posted:i want to see fishmech moderate a presidential debate my god, fishmech this must be your destiny
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Nov 12, 2015 05:01
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I think comparing the population of a mental institution to the current GOP field is deeply insulting to said mental institution.
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point of return posted:i want to see fishmech moderate a presidential debate Do the candidates each get a button for a bell to cut fishmech off?
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Nov 12, 2015 05:04
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The persecution and assassination of the republican party as performed by the inmates of the asylum of the something awful forums under the direction of the fishmech
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hobbesmaster posted:The persecution and assassination of the republican party as performed by the inmates of the asylum of the something awful forums under the direction of the fishmech Elephant/fishmech
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Nov 12, 2015 05:15
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point of return posted:i want to see fishmech moderate a presidential debate I was thinking this, and then you said it!
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Nov 12, 2015 05:25
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Joementum posted:The number of years Carson was off by is much less an issue than the labor conditions that allowed the US to achieve the status he describes favorably. hey now he only said capital investment he didn't specify type
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Nov 12, 2015 05:28
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hobbesmaster posted:The persecution and assassination of the republican party as performed by the inmates of the asylum of the something awful forums under the direction of the fishmech
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Nintendo Kid posted:Have you ever heard of the fact that Carson is consistently wrong, and this is just one example of many? Well I think we can safely assume he's wrong on this one when this idiot said Jacob build the pyramids to "store grain." Yet, the Oxford English Dictionary defines the word "store" as to Keep or accumulate (something) for future use, and the pyramids are still around today?? Last I checked, the Biblical Jacob lived 17 years in Egypt before dying, and the pyramids were built in 2560 B.C.E. So, unless I'm doing my trivial algebra wrong, it's completely impossible for Jacob to be alive to use this grain as the definition of the word "store" mandates. There's no question Ben Carson is dumb. All he's done now is prove he's too dumb to know basic words like "retain" (which the Oxford English Dictionary defines as: Continue to have something; keep possession of) that would have been actually appropriate to the situation he's talking about, since death does not necessitate a release of ownership.
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Triglav posted:I can't speak to old economic superpower leaderboards, but I know King Cotton was a major business partner of Europe. What? No, the Union blockaded the CSA to keep them from selling their cotton to Europe. It was the CSA's hope that this would force intervention in order to keep European industry going, and there were any number of nuts who thought that the South was in the driving seat on this issue, but it was the Union blockade that stopped the cotton trade. Also, everybody underestimated Britain's willingness to starve colonials by replacing cereals with cash crops.
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point of return posted:i want to see fishmech moderate a presidential debate At the end of two uninterrupted hours of him responding to points candidates made in previous debates he declares himself the winner and walks offstage. Outside, he gets into his bitchin' IROC-Z Camaro, smirks, and peels out of the parking lot.
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sullat posted:What? No, the Union blockaded the CSA to keep them from selling their cotton to Europe. It was the CSA's hope that this would force intervention in order to keep European industry going, and there were any number of nuts who thought that the South was in the driving seat on this issue, but it was the Union blockade that stopped the cotton trade. Also, everybody underestimated Britain's willingness to starve colonials by replacing cereals with cash crops. Yeah, the CSS Alabama was the South's second most famous ship, and it was a blockade runner getting cotton to Europe. The Merrimack was also an attempt at destroying a blockade, but the Monitor got built in time to stop it.
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sullat posted:What? No, the Union blockaded the CSA to keep them from selling their cotton to Europe. It was the CSA's hope that this would force intervention in order to keep European industry going, and there were any number of nuts who thought that the South was in the driving seat on this issue, but it was the Union blockade that stopped the cotton trade. Also, everybody underestimated Britain's willingness to starve colonials by replacing cereals with cash crops. However, after 1862 the US Navy was establishing a meaningful blockade. Funnily, the main purchaser of Southern cotton was... the North! Mostly in the form of people selling cotton, often semi-illegally, in areas occupied by the United States, but often with southerners in the field resorting to it in order to get some degree of cash, or in some cases, food directly. This was grudgingly tolerated by Jeff. Davis and co., mostly because they sure the hell couldn't feed the people.
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wow this is boring as gently caress
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Nessus posted:Not quite true; there was a substantial unofficial "embargo" on the part of the South where they preferred not to sell their cotton during the first year of the war, to show the British what-for. Like most Southern plans, this didn't actually work, but failed in a way which led to lingering suffering, rather than a hilarious explosion. Leave it to the South to overlook the fact that Britain held among its colonial possessions India, where they'd been growing cotton since like 600BCE.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, “Naturally, I do not suggest that America start a war or send out engraved invitations to a Star Wars-type invasion from some galaxy far, far away. I just wish I could convince more thinking people of what I believe is true — that continued racial divisions within our society pose every bit as great a threat to our survival as a nation as any outside attack, be it from earthly or other-worldly enemies.” ~ Ben Carson For the love of god, nobody let Dr. Carson read "Watchmen". (He's spot-on about "True Lies", though. It's Cameron's last great film.)
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hobbesmaster posted:The persecution and assassination of the republican party as performed by the inmates of the asylum of the something awful forums under the direction of the fishmech If this be our marching orders then I will follow fishmech into Hell itself
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Top City Homo posted:wow this is boring as gently caress Get used to it, 5 more weeks until something interesting happens.
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funtax posted:For the love of god, nobody let Dr. Carson read "Watchmen". 
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Quote of the night: "Ol' gash is fine but one eye for mine." - Ted Cruz.
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Top City Homo posted:if you understand philosophy generally it means you understand analytic logic and that makes you almost as good as a math major for any job Missed this little speck of the thread, but continuing off of this, Philosophy majors also end up learning skills useful for a Law degree as much of their major is about learning argumentation and the presentation of those arguments. That's likely why their section skews so high since many of them may pick up more practical techniques than their PoliSci counterparts.
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Joementum posted:Hmm, I think these two things might be related. Looks like Trump's combover.
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Carson's the one who believes in indentured servitude if you commit a crime right? I get kind of confused since I think Huckabee is pro slavery too but in a different way. Also I find it funny how polls this far out both matter and don't matter. It's like some quantum polling state.
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SirKibbles posted:Carson's the one who believes in indentured servitude if you commit a crime right? You're confusing a candidate with the Thirteenth Amendment!
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Chantilly Say posted:At the end of two uninterrupted hours of him responding to points candidates made in previous debates he declares himself the winner and walks offstage. Holy poo poo, he's Joe Biden!
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Something I learned last night: During the debate Trump praised Eisenhower's immigration action but never mentioned the name. Now it makes sense why. The plan was called Operation Wetback http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/11/455613993/it-came-up-in-the-debate-here-are-3-things-to-know-about-operation-wetback
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You can learn more from Wikipedia than NPR which is sad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback "Mistreatment and abuse[edit] Operation Wetback uses the name "Wetback", (the term "wetback" is a disparaging term applied to Mexicans who passed across the Rio Grande—and today is considered pejorative.),[45] becoming a derogatory term applied to Mexican laborers, both legal and illegal.[46] The term 'wetback' was used by Cesar Chavez[47] during his efforts organizing unionized farmworkers.[48] One of the biggest problems caused by the program was the deportation of Mexicans to unfamiliar places, where they would struggle to find their way home or to continue to support their families.[49] Over 25% of apprehended Mexicans were returned to Veracruz on cargo ships, while others were transported by land to southern cities in Mexico.[50] Those apprehended were often deported without receiving the opportunity to recover their property in the U.S. or to contact their families, and they were stranded without any food or employment when they entered Mexico.[51] Deported Mexicans faced extreme conditions and were sometimes left in the desert; 88 deported workers died in 112 degree heat in July, 1955.[52] Another issue was repeat border crossings by those who had been previously deported; from 1960 through 1961, repeaters accounted for 20% of the total deportees.[53] Certain U.S. Border Patrol agents practiced shaving heads to mark repeat offenders who would attempt to reenter the United States. There were also reports of beating and jailing illegal immigrants before deporting them.[54] While most complaints concerning deportation were undocumented, there were over 11,000 formal complaints from documented bracero workers from 1954 through 1964.[55]" Very Humane
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:Here's the dataset. http://www.ggdc.net/maddison/Historical_Statistics/horizontal-file_02-2010.xls Grand Theft Autobot posted:this is definitely not the hill to die on. I have really bad news for you. Warcabbit fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Nov 12, 2015 |
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Smoothrich posted:You can learn more from Wikipedia than NPR which is sad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9FlG2TXsQc
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Review of Ted Cruz reaction to naming the Department of Commerce twice to eliminate. I guess he just figured he should ignore it, correct his mistake, and move on. Smart, but no fun. He should own it, like Rick Perry! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSLBwhdr3U8
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Eliminating HUD would destroy mortgage and construction insurance, which might have economic consequences, though I admit I have no idea what the effect would be on the price of gold.
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