El Estrago Bonito posted:

Interestingly enough in Japan both sides of the conflict were huge Western weeaboos. We like to think of the Samurai who resisted modernization efforts in a Last Samurai/Shogun context with guys in bathrobes charging lines of gunmen with swords. But the leader of the Samurai insurrection during the Satsuma Rebellion was a dude who loved guns, cannons and wearing western military uniforms, he was just mostly butthurt at the idea of a modern army and constitutional monarchy styled government taking away all the "rights" the Samurai had that let them oppress the rest of the populace.

quote:

But yeah it's not shocking the DE guys like the Japanese. It's starting to finally die out with the current generation of young people, but Japan harbors a lot of deeply ingrained cultural bullshit that is very much in line with their thinking.

El Estrago Bonito posted:

Even modern Tokyo was basically heavily engineered to shove all the undesirables into ghettos, and the parts of the city that everyone will tell you are "full of gangs and criminals" are often the old Korean and undesirable neighborhoods where lower class people used to live but these days are just as safe, if not safer, then most of the "nice" parts of Tokyo.

Munin posted:

I know of at least one English banker from a superior background who is uncomfortable heading to Farringdon because it is dangerously close to the wrong side of town. If you live in London you would know how ridiculous that is.

Munin posted:

I know of at least one English banker from a superior background who is uncomfortable heading to Farringdon because it is dangerously close to the wrong side of town. If you live in London you would know how ridiculous that is.

Ichabod Sexbeast posted:

And Wonderwoman got tied up a lot, what's your point?

potatocubed posted:

One of the big advantages of The North is that the further you go, the less likely you are to run into anyone from the City of London.

BobHoward posted:

That was because Wonder Woman's creator was a dude with... eccentric views about the proper role of women in society.

On the one hand, he was a kinkster of the sort who assumed everyone was into his kink on some level, meaning that he sincerely believed most or all women wanted to be sexually submissive to men.

On the other, he believed with equal sincerity that women were inherently wiser and gentler than men and that they should should hold all political power.

The result was a heroine who generally fixed problems caused by evil men but with a subtext of enjoying it when the bad guys figured out her Amazonian powers would be at least temporarily negated if they could manipulate her into accepting their manacles (bondage being her Kryptonite).

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Man, why didn't they spawn a subculture? Be better than those Gor assholes.

Calico Heart posted:

loving seriously? That area is like 50% start-up businesses and 30% places to get lunch.

Cingulate posted:

It wasn't even me who came up with the question of intent. I'm claiming: much like almost everybody else, Scott does not have the statistical education to do what he attempts, and much like most people, he does not know what he does not know.
People who know stats a bit will readily understand the situation.
every real stats textbook will be "how to lie with numbers 101" because they're full of warnings what not to do. But to really know how to lie with stats, it helps to really know stats.

Cingulate posted:

I want to give a more detailed answer tomorrow, but here is my PYF NRx Dude Thread contribution of the day.


Source of the data: the excel file Scott posted.

Not a single reader reports a lower IQ than the average American. The lowest reported IQ is literally 100.

Also, look at that IQ 197 guy. Just look. If IQ was strictly normally distributed, and if every living person was an American, and if IQ tests were at all reliable up to these scales (about equally false assumptions), there'd be approximately 6 people like him on the planet right now. And here he is, making $37.000, having a 1970 out of 2400 SAT, and posting on the internet.

Edit: haha, the IQ 197 guy actually has the 2nd lowest reported SAT score in this sample.

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Also it's interesting that it came out to be relatively normal-shaped (though skewed right a little because lol) so there's like, an approximately constant multiplier everyone seems to be subconsciously applying.

I mean I know that random sampling tends to come out normal but I'd think it would cluster a bit differently in this case, either on nice round-ish numbers or on numbers people explicitly pick to look less round (ones that end in 3 and 7, afaik).

Cingulate posted:

Oh, that's the smoothing from the histogram! It's binning them together, making it look smoother. There are 5 huge outliers right around the median value of ~140: 130, 135, 140, 145 and 150.

Counts are:

code:

        100: 1,
         105: 1,
         115: 2,
         116: 1,
         117: 1,
         118: 1,
         120: 3,
         121: 1,
         122: 2,
         123: 2,
         124: 4,
         125: 5,
         126: 1,
         127: 4,
         128: 4,
         129: 4,
         130: 18,
         131: 8,
         132: 8,
         133: 3,
         134: 2,
         135: 19,
         136: 5,
         137: 1,
         138: 8,
         139: 7,
         140: 20,
         141: 6,
         142: 10,
         143: 6,
         144: 5,
         145: 7,
         146: 3,
         147: 2,
         148: 2,
         149: 1,
         150: 11,
         151: 1,
         152: 4,
         153: 1,
         154: 3,
         155: 3,
         156: 3,
         159: 2,
         160: 3,
         162: 3,
         163: 2,
         166: 1,
         168: 3,
         169: 2,
         172: 1,
         177: 1,
         180: 1,
         197: 1

The distribution has a pretty hard right tail, and weird censoring below 100.

TinTower posted:

Hey guys, what's 3 time 3?

That's right. MULTICULTURALISM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM

Merdifex posted:

https://twitter.com/ClarkHat/status/664445655381770240
https://twitter.com/ClarkHat/status/664451714909519872

This whole discussion is so stupid, SJW fear mongering nonsense, there is no evidence presented for any of the ludicrous claims therein. Clark is an idiot, but an amusing one.

TinTower posted:

Hey guys, what's 3 time 3?

That's right. MULTICULTURALISM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM

Merdifex posted:

https://twitter.com/s8mb/status/664053342419689472

Hey, that's a skeleton line!

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

So do you think the 197 guy just grabbed a number that "sounded right" to them or did they find a King of the Hill style online IQ test that tells everyone they're a super special genius to sell them crap

Merdifex posted:

Self-reported polls on LW were always this bad. Even worse when people like Scott are using the useless data these polls collect to claim that LW & SSC are a domain of genius grey-tribers.

Oligopsony posted:

Skepticism at the self-reported IQ scores should be obvious, but the polls are probably a reasonable indication that the dominant politics of the LWsphere are center-left. Yudkowsky and Hanson were/are libertarians* and the association between LW and NRx is conspicuous because they're both small communities with an overlap at all - p(NRx|LW) is astronomically higher than p(NRx) but not necessarily high in absolute terms - but the survey is a better guide to the majority.

Oligopsony posted:

*Though this is itself kind of a deceptive grouping - to the extent that he cares about short-term politics Yudkowsky is mostly a market-friendly liberal technocrat like Scott or, say, Ezra Klein; while Hanson wants to overthrow democracy, abolish cuckoldry, and transform the world into a computer-simulated Dickensian hell Matrix.

Merdifex posted:

https://twitter.com/s8mb/status/664053342419689472

Hey, that's a SJW line!

divabot posted:

uh, wat.

"centre-left" of what precisely? Please show your working.

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IV. Politics, Religion, Ethics

Politics
Communist: 9, 0.6%
Conservative: 67, 4.5%
Liberal: 416, 27.7%
Libertarian: 379, 25.2%
Social Democratic: 585, 38.9%

Politics (longform)
Anarchist: 40, 2.7%
Communist: 9, 0.6%
Conservative: 23, 1.9%
Futarchist: 41, 2.7%
Left-Libertarian: 192, 12.8%
Libertarian: 164, 10.9%
Moderate: 56, 3.7%
Neoreactionary: 29, 1.9%
Social Democrat: 162, 10.8%
Socialist: 89, 5.9%

American Parties
Democratic Party: 221, 14.7%
Republican Party: 55, 3.7%
Libertarian Party: 26, 1.7%
Other party: 16, 1.1%
No party: 415, 27.6%
Non-Americans who really like clicking buttons: 415, 27.6%

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Abortion: 4.38 + 1.032 (4, 5, 5) [1341]
Immigration: 4 + 1.078 (3, 4, 5) [1310]
Taxes : 3.14 + 1.212 (2, 3, 4) [1410] (from 1 - should be lower to 5 - should be higher)
Minimum Wage: 3.21 + 1.359 (2, 3, 4) [1298] (from 1 - should be lower to 5 - should be higher)
Feminism: 3.67 + 1.221 (3, 4, 5) [1332]
Social Justice: 3.15 + 1.385 (2, 3, 4) [1309]
Human Biodiversity: 2.93 + 1.201 (2, 3, 4) [1321]
Basic Income: 3.94 + 1.087 (3, 4, 5) [1314]
Great Stagnation: 2.33 + .959 (2, 2, 3) [1302]
MIRI Mission: 3.90 + 1.062 (3, 4, 5) [1412]
MIRI Effectiveness: 3.23 + .897 (3, 3, 4) [1336]

TinTower posted:

I dread to think what the NRx people are saying about Paris.

TinTower posted:

Oligopsony posted:

From the 2014 result,



Libertarians plus conservatives make up 30%, social democrats a plurality, liberals plus social democrats a strong majority; "liberal" is clearly following American rather than European usage. The Democratic Party very very strongly predominates among American respondents who identified with a party at all. And respondents were more likely to have been clinically diagnosed with bipolar disorder than to identify as neoreactionary. Every left-coded concept has a higher favorability rating than every right-coded one.

I mean, you can certainly say they're to the right of where they should be, and I'd agree, but the median view is roughly what gets called "center-left" in mainstream parlance. Just "centrist" would work fine too - I'm not going to make the exact term my hill to die on, since it's not well-defined. (Taking a quick look at the more recent SSC survey, it leans further right though not dramatically so, which is what I would have guessed.)

Anticheese posted:

Wtf is a "futarchist"?