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El Estrago Bonito posted:Interestingly enough in Japan both sides of the conflict were huge Western weeaboos. We like to think of the Samurai who resisted modernization efforts in a Last Samurai/Shogun context with guys in bathrobes charging lines of gunmen with swords. But the leader of the Samurai insurrection during the Satsuma Rebellion was a dude who loved guns, cannons and wearing western military uniforms, he was just mostly butthurt at the idea of a modern army and constitutional monarchy styled government taking away all the "rights" the Samurai had that let them oppress the rest of the populace. Didn't know this! Neat. quote:But yeah it's not shocking the DE guys like the Japanese. It's starting to finally die out with the current generation of young people, but Japan harbors a lot of deeply ingrained cultural bullshit that is very much in line with their thinking. I mean, that's kind of true for everywhere, innit? The models they explicitly like though are mainly Gulf monarchies and East Asian entrepôt-states. Some of the more informed ones will cite Rwanda and Botswana, which along with the obvious cliche of Chile seem like better arguments for the feasibility of their politics, such as they are.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Even modern Tokyo was basically heavily engineered to shove all the undesirables into ghettos, and the parts of the city that everyone will tell you are "full of gangs and criminals" are often the old Korean and undesirable neighborhoods where lower class people used to live but these days are just as safe, if not safer, then most of the "nice" parts of Tokyo. I know of at least one English banker from a superior background who is uncomfortable heading to Farringdon because it is dangerously close to the wrong side of town. If you live in London you would know how ridiculous that is.
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# ? Nov 12, 2015 11:07 |
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Munin posted:I know of at least one English banker from a superior background who is uncomfortable heading to Farringdon because it is dangerously close to the wrong side of town. If you live in London you would know how ridiculous that is. loving seriously? That area is like 50% start-up businesses and 30% places to get lunch.
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Munin posted:I know of at least one English banker from a superior background who is uncomfortable heading to Farringdon because it is dangerously close to the wrong side of town. If you live in London you would know how ridiculous that is. One of the big advantages of The North is that the further you go, the less likely you are to run into anyone from the City of London.
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# ? Nov 12, 2015 13:54 |
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Ichabod Sexbeast posted:And Wonderwoman got tied up a lot, what's your point? The creator of Wonder Woman is the man who invented the polygraph, his wife, and their live in lover. It was literally their sex life in comic form.
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# ? Nov 12, 2015 13:58 |
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potatocubed posted:One of the big advantages of The North is that the further you go, the less likely you are to run into anyone from the City of London. Saying that I live south of the river and you virtually don't see any of them here either.
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# ? Nov 12, 2015 14:41 |
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BobHoward posted:That was because Wonder Woman's creator was a dude with... eccentric views about the proper role of women in society. Man, why didn't they spawn a subculture? Be better than those Gor assholes.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Man, why didn't they spawn a subculture? Be better than those Gor assholes. Because spawning a subculture takes a lot of insanity
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Calico Heart posted:loving seriously? That area is like 50% start-up businesses and 30% places to get lunch. Admittedly that was about 10 years ago before places like Shoreditch got colonised. Farringdon was very much as it is today though... Not to mention that it is only ten minutes walk if that from the headquarter of BoA Merril Lynch in London and the outskirts of the City in general. Context btw is lunch meeting and a query whether Farringdon would be acceptable with an added assurance that it was indeed more respectable these days.
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# ? Nov 12, 2015 18:11 |
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Cingulate posted:It wasn't even me who came up with the question of intent. I'm claiming: much like almost everybody else, Scott does not have the statistical education to do what he attempts, and much like most people, he does not know what he does not know. Cingulate, I'm curious. I have no stats knowledge so I never know when people are using them wrongly (outside of knowing correlation is not causation, etc.). Could you explain how Scott is failing at statistics in his post? Also, I think your analysis of Scott's thought patterns in the previous post was perfectly accurate.
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# ? Nov 12, 2015 21:38 |
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I want to give a more detailed answer tomorrow, but here is my PYF NRx Dude Thread contribution of the day. Source of the data: the excel file Scott posted. Not a single reader reports a lower IQ than the average American. The lowest reported IQ is literally 100. Also, look at that IQ 197 guy. Just look. If IQ was strictly normally distributed, and if every living person was an American, and if IQ tests were at all reliable up to these scales (about equally false assumptions), there'd be approximately 6 people like him on the planet right now. And here he is, making $37.000, having a 1970 out of 2400 SAT, and posting on the internet. Edit: haha, the IQ 197 guy actually has the 2nd lowest reported SAT score in this sample. Cingulate has a new favorite as of 23:15 on Nov 12, 2015 |
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But what's the status on his skull bumps and fingers?
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Cingulate posted:I want to give a more detailed answer tomorrow, but here is my PYF NRx Dude Thread contribution of the day. So do you think the 197 guy just grabbed a number that "sounded right" to them or did they find a King of the Hill style online IQ test that tells everyone they're a super special genius to sell them crap
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# ? Nov 12, 2015 23:17 |
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Also it's interesting that it came out to be relatively normal-shaped (though skewed right a little because lol) so there's like, an approximately constant multiplier everyone seems to be subconsciously applying. I mean I know that random sampling tends to come out normal but I'd think it would cluster a bit differently in this case, either on nice round-ish numbers or on numbers people explicitly pick to look less round (ones that end in 3 and 7, afaik).
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Also it's interesting that it came out to be relatively normal-shaped (though skewed right a little because lol) so there's like, an approximately constant multiplier everyone seems to be subconsciously applying. Counts are: code:
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# ? Nov 12, 2015 23:48 |
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That's why self reported, unverified surveys are seen as the lowest kind of bullshit in research only to be used when no other source of information is feasibly accessible.
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# ? Nov 13, 2015 00:35 |
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^ Thank god somebody set the record straight here, just as we were all about to accept Scott's note his reader's mean IQ is almost 3 standard deviations above the average. Also the major problems here are lack of blinding and lack of validation.
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# ? Nov 13, 2015 01:02 |
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Self-reported polls on LW were always this bad. Even worse when people like Scott are using the useless data these polls collect to claim that LW & SSC are a domain of genius grey-tribers.
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# ? Nov 13, 2015 01:12 |
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Hey guys, what's 3 time 3? That's right. MULTICULTURALISM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM
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# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:53 |
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https://twitter.com/s8mb/status/664053342419689472 Hey, that's a skeleton line! So apparently how the good guys think is like this: https://twitter.com/ClarkHat/status/663677838265028608 Merdifex has a new favorite as of 03:26 on Nov 13, 2015 |
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Cingulate posted:Oh, that's the smoothing from the histogram! It's binning them together, making it look smoother. There are 5 huge outliers right around the median value of ~140: 130, 135, 140, 145 and 150. Ah yeah I thought about it after I posted and realized the scale wasn't really small enough to see proper clustering, thanks!
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https://twitter.com/ClarkHat/status/664445655381770240 https://twitter.com/ClarkHat/status/664451714909519872 This whole discussion is so stupid, SJW fear mongering nonsense, there is no evidence presented for any of the ludicrous claims therein. Clark is an idiot, but an amusing one.
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TinTower posted:Hey guys, what's 3 time 3? Lotta comments of people going "THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT ORWELL WROTE ABOUT" and "THIS WOULD BE FUNNIER IF IT WASN'T TRUE" It's a heavy-handed, lovely strawmanning video
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Merdifex posted:https://twitter.com/ClarkHat/status/664445655381770240 America: truly the most communistic state.
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TinTower posted:Hey guys, what's 3 time 3? Can someone tell me a bit about this guy? I thought he was funny in one of the friendlyjordies video, but never bothered looking into him. So he's actually a pretty lovely person?
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Merdifex posted:https://twitter.com/s8mb/status/664053342419689472 Yes, because smugly invading the space of someone a full head shorter than you is definitely what the good guys do.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:So do you think the 197 guy just grabbed a number that "sounded right" to them or did they find a King of the Hill style online IQ test that tells everyone they're a super special genius to sell them crap The latter, or they were bright as a kid so posted a score from back then. Or both. Merdifex posted:Self-reported polls on LW were always this bad. Even worse when people like Scott are using the useless data these polls collect to claim that LW & SSC are a domain of genius grey-tribers. This is also Scott's go-to argument when anyone points out how libertarian in outlook LW is/was. He is also incredibly liberal himself of course. (presumably in the sense of the word tankies use)
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# ? Nov 13, 2015 18:10 |
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Skepticism at the self-reported IQ scores should be obvious, but the polls are probably a reasonable indication that the dominant politics of the LWsphere are center-left. Yudkowsky and Hanson were/are libertarians* and the association between LW and NRx is conspicuous because they're both small communities with an overlap at all - p(NRx|LW) is astronomically higher than p(NRx) but not necessarily high in absolute terms - but the survey is a better guide to the majority. *Though this is itself kind of a deceptive grouping - to the extent that he cares about short-term politics Yudkowsky is mostly a market-friendly liberal technocrat like Scott or, say, Ezra Klein; while Hanson wants to overthrow democracy, abolish cuckoldry, and transform the world into a computer-simulated Dickensian hell Matrix.
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Oligopsony posted:Skepticism at the self-reported IQ scores should be obvious, but the polls are probably a reasonable indication that the dominant politics of the LWsphere are center-left. Yudkowsky and Hanson were/are libertarians* and the association between LW and NRx is conspicuous because they're both small communities with an overlap at all - p(NRx|LW) is astronomically higher than p(NRx) but not necessarily high in absolute terms - but the survey is a better guide to the majority. uh, wat. "centre-left" of what precisely? Please show your working. Oligopsony posted:*Though this is itself kind of a deceptive grouping - to the extent that he cares about short-term politics Yudkowsky is mostly a market-friendly liberal technocrat like Scott or, say, Ezra Klein; while Hanson wants to overthrow democracy, abolish cuckoldry, and transform the world into a computer-simulated Dickensian hell Matrix. Yudkowsky is from an environment where "libertarian" is a default you just assume is normal and everything else is politics being the mind killer. You just don't get from there to "centre-left" without showing a great deal of working.
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Might mean an American sort of center-left, where you rack up enough points being OK with wacky weed and gay marriage that your policy of "pet the rich, scold the poor" looks like sheerest Leninism compared to "fellate the rich, enslave the poor."
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The thing that makes those IQ scores really easy to believe is that they're mostly on multiples of 10, because your IQ always falls on a round numbe and the people aren't just picking something out of the air that feels good.
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# ? Nov 14, 2015 00:39 |
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http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/11/11/links-1115-alinkxander-hamilton/ I don't think Scott can deny how far right he's moved. I mean, look at those first few links.
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I dread to think what the NRx people are saying about Paris. Merdifex posted:https://twitter.com/s8mb/status/664053342419689472 I actually know Bowman through mutual friends. He's a massive cock.
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divabot posted:uh, wat. From the 2014 result, quote:IV. Politics, Religion, Ethics quote:Abortion: 4.38 + 1.032 (4, 5, 5) [1341] Libertarians plus conservatives make up 30%, social democrats a plurality, liberals plus social democrats a strong majority; "liberal" is clearly following American rather than European usage. The Democratic Party very very strongly predominates among American respondents who identified with a party at all. And respondents were more likely to have been clinically diagnosed with bipolar disorder than to identify as neoreactionary. Every left-coded concept has a higher favorability rating than every right-coded one. I mean, you can certainly say they're to the right of where they should be, and I'd agree, but the median view is roughly what gets called "center-left" in mainstream parlance. Just "centrist" would work fine too - I'm not going to make the exact term my hill to die on, since it's not well-defined. (Taking a quick look at the more recent SSC survey, it leans further right though not dramatically so, which is what I would have guessed.)
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TinTower posted:I dread to think what the NRx people are saying about Paris. https://twitter.com/k_mcq/status/665313751793438720
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In before this cock declared helping refugees is somehow immoral and therefore any and all of them should be deported. Oh and don't get me started on "oh but the refugees aren't prostrating themselves over getting help despite the fact that hate groups actively seek them out" and other things regarding the conflict they're fleeing from. Annointed has a new favorite as of 03:00 on Nov 14, 2015 |
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Oligopsony posted:From the 2014 result, What percentage of those "anarchist" results are ancaps?
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Wtf is a "futarchist"?
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Anticheese posted:Wtf is a "futarchist"? Someone who believes we should be ruled by girls with gigantic, veiny penises.
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