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kelvron posted:That poo poo is now trending on Facebook. gently caress this world. Lol look at this melvin still using Facebook. Tsu/Twitter/Instagram (though insta is getting played out) is where it's at now, gramps.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Lol look at this melvin still using Facebook. Tsu/Twitter/Instagram (though insta is getting played out) is where it's at now, gramps. Only old people and sports personalities use Twitter.
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liCasimir Radon posted:So far none of you has been able to answer as to why these students couldn't have gone and had a diplomatic conversation with her to air their concerns. But that's noy as much fun as outrage mob, right? literally a tone argument Casimir Radon posted:It's not a bad guess that they never tried, and immediately took to social media like their worthless generation likes to. A not insignificant number of millenials don't understand how to call 911 if they need help, there have been cases where they take it to Facebook instead. Telling someone face to face that they've offended you is so completely alien to them that they'd rather whip everyone into a frenzy and try to bully someone out of their position. literally "kids these days" Swan Oat posted:The guy who poo poo on the cop car is an American hero cop car-shitter and the guy who threw the tear gas grenade back and never dropped his chips for the new dynamic duo
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Nov 12, 2015 14:59
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Casimir Radon posted:Who says she hasn't. With so much screaming and bitching who knows what has actually taken place since. Maybe communicating with each other like adults is a better way? Hahah, yeah dog gently caress acts of civil disobedience and protest as a tool for social change. "Uh yeah, look, we get it, you want to eat lunch at the Woolworths but you need to be an adult and get out of the chair, all y'all sitting there and yelling isnt a DIALOGUE. If you werent so upity MAYBE things would change."
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Nov 12, 2015 15:03
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The situation at Yale is about more than two emails over Halloween. That just happened to be a flash point for other issues on campus, including a Fraternity having a "Whites Only" party. The students held a gathering to express their support for students over the various issues on campus that had occurred over the Halloween weekend. During their gathering, they spoke with Jonathan Holloway, the college they were in's first black dean and asked him to speak out on racial issues and to address the email controversy, which upper Administration had yet to do. The students aren't protesting about an email and they aren't being unreasonable. They are expressing their desires to be treated equally, fairly, and for administration to begin addressing in a meaningful way, institutionalized racism.
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Nov 12, 2015 15:33
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Literally The Worst posted:literally a tone argument Dude, she wrote an incredibly banal email that is at absolute worst a bit ignorant. It is not a "tone" argument to complain about a lynch mob after her job. If you read that email and thought this is the person we need to go after you are living such a wonderfully sheltered life that I can only hope the rest of us can join you some time. Spaceman Future! posted:Hahah, yeah dog gently caress acts of civil disobedience and protest as a tool for social change. Yes, this is exactly like the civil rights era. Maybe go read the email. My Aunt uploads more offensive poo poo to Facebook on an hourly basis than this woman has probably thought in her entire life.
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Ohthehugemanatee posted:Dude, she wrote an incredibly banal email that is at absolute worst a bit ignorant. It is not a "tone" argument to complain about a lynch mob after her job. There isn't a "lynch mob" after her.
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Nov 12, 2015 15:34
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The real lynching is black people not wanting to be taught by a woman who says it's okay to be racist one night a year
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Nov 12, 2015 15:35
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I would've watched that version of the Purge
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Nov 12, 2015 15:39
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:The situation at Yale is about more than two emails over Halloween. That just happened to be a flash point for other issues on campus, including a Fraternity having a "Whites Only" party. This would explain a lot, but I haven't seen anything on the controversy beyond "PC gone mad!" arguments over that one email. Do you have a link to more info on this?
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Nov 12, 2015 15:55
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Nolanar posted:This would explain a lot, but I haven't seen anything on the controversy beyond "PC gone mad!" arguments over that one email. Do you have a link to more info on this? The Vox Explainer does a good job of laying it out -- for Vox -- but here you go: http://www.vox.com/2015/11/7/9689330/yale-halloween-email The latter part of the story does a better job of explaining the whole thing.
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It's not about Halloween costumes — it's not even entirely about Yale — and if you read the student response as strictly about Halloween costumes, then of course it's going to look like an overreaction. If you can't get that, then this discussion is never going to be productive. Christiakis was trying to make a measured and broad point about the value of free speech and discussion of difficult or potentially offensive topics. Her e-mail was, in part, a reaction to recent policies coddling undergrads as if they're all victims that are a hair away from a massive traumatic breakdown, or shutting down discussion entirely on tough issues in order to establish a party line — like when you get student protests over rather benign commencement speakers, like Condoleezza Rice, Robert Birgeneau, Michael Johnston, etc. Unfortunately, that response by Christiakis was tone-deaf as gently caress, because she was launching into the topic of systemic racism in the US and on college campuses, which does happen to be a giant real problem that needs real institutional responses and which is being actively discussed nationwide. She was telling students of color that if they feel they're being discriminated against, it's their job to engage that person (or deal with it), and it's not the job of the institution to set and enforce rules about it. That's hosed up, and it's wrong. Minority students should not be saddled with the job of asking their white peers to treat them with respect. It's not really appropriate to call for the Christiakis' heads, but these are undergrads, for most of them this is among their first forays into activism, and it's a learning process. jackofarcades posted:When someone responds to an email saying "don't wear blackface" with "what about a little girl wanting to be Mulan???" you are being intellectually dishonest and we can't have a calm, intellectual dialog about you. You're being a willfully dense shithead so you can defend racist costumes. I don't think that's true. I think she was accidentally dense and paid a price for it.
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Combed Thunderclap posted:He kind of has a Lex Luthor look without the hair. Is this a real picture? I feel like Trump has structured his entire life to avoid having this picture taken
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Nov 12, 2015 16:02
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SedanChair posted:Is this a real picture? I feel like Trump has structured his entire life to avoid having this picture taken Sure! Donald Trump went out one day without his wig on, and despite being in a big room with a lot of other people, somehow only one picture was taken and made it onto the internet also his nose has a weird circle around it where the color doesn't blend into his cheeks but its obviously real
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Nov 12, 2015 16:17
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http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/ben-carson-warns-free-college-will-destroy I mean yeah, Ben Carson is funny and all but seriously he can go gently caress himself.
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Nov 12, 2015 16:19
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SedanChair posted:Is this a real picture? I feel like Trump has structured his entire life to avoid having this picture taken Nah, it's got that weird lighting thing going on that looks like someone boosted the brightness on the picture of Trump in order to make it fit better with whoever's bald dome that is. I doubt he's ever clipped it and gone totally baldo, even if his incredibly wishful attempts at concealing his MPB with his remaining hair are rather garish up close.
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Nov 12, 2015 16:19
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FAUXTON posted:Nah, it's got that weird lighting thing going on that looks like someone boosted the brightness on the picture of Trump in order to make it fit better with whoever's bald dome that is. I doubt he's ever clipped it and gone totally baldo, even if his incredibly wishful attempts at concealing his MPB with his remaining hair are rather garish up close. I'm pretty sure that's Patrick Stewart's head. I don't know why I can recognize that.
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Nov 12, 2015 16:21
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Eschers Basement posted:Sure! Donald Trump went out one day without his wig on, and despite being in a big room with a lot of other people, somehow only one picture was taken and made it onto the internet Yes weird maybe but you already said it was real so no need to second guess it. Wiggate 2015
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Nov 12, 2015 16:23
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Eschers Basement posted:Sure! Donald Trump went out one day without his wig on, and despite being in a big room with a lot of other people, somehow only one picture was taken and made it onto the internet What would his nose have to do with anything
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Nov 12, 2015 16:24
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Eschers Basement posted:Sure! Donald Trump went out one day without his wig on, and despite being in a big room with a lot of other people, somehow only one picture was taken and made it onto the internet Ladies and gentlemen, Sherlock Holmes!
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An attempt to un-poo poo this thread a bit: Recent veterans are probably voting more Republican than veterans have historically. I'll excerpt the good stuff for y'all:quote:Recent exit polls suggest that veterans tilt Republican, but that does not tell the whole story. Speculation as to why and warnings about taking their research as definitive in the article, as well as some examples and graphics I cut. Would be interesting to see the data after the 2016 elections; if their conclusions are further borne out there is a lot of room for sociological study of veterans' orgs' and current-service institutions' political affiliation and proselytizing.
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Nov 12, 2015 16:49
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Alligator Horse posted:An attempt to un-poo poo this thread a bit: Recent veterans are probably voting more Republican than veterans have historically. I wouldn't be surprised if the cause/effect were reversed, that the GOP's politicization of the military has tainted the idea of enlisting for anyone who isn't already right-of-center.
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Veterans are from the military which is now just jam packed full of right wingers, doesn't seem that complicated. ^^^^^^^ Exactly. I'm liberal as hell and my dad's a veteran but there is no loving way I'm ever going to let my son join the military if I have any say in it. It's politicized enough I automatically assume most soldiers are shitheads. Sorry, I know it's not true.
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What ever happened to that "hearing protection" bill that was trying to remove suppressors from the NFA? EDIT: nevermind. It's in committee waiting for approval.
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Alligator Horse posted:An attempt to un-poo poo this thread a bit: Recent veterans are probably voting more Republican than veterans have historically. I'll excerpt the good stuff for y'all: My immediate suspicion is that the most recent wars have been so politicized that the bias is in who enrolls in the military. The article notes that as a possibility but dismisses it for reasons I don't consider compelling - "Young men (and women) join the armed forces for many personal, career, financial, and civic reasons beyond ideology or politics." Sure, it's not the only reason people join but you only need a bias - and once you get that bias it can be self-reinforcing.
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greatn posted:Veterans are from the military which is now just jam packed full of right wingers, doesn't seem that complicated. Plenty of recent vets serve because of family ties to the military though, and that covers all kinds of spectra--especially for people with parents who served in Vietnam/grandparents in WWII. I know a handful personally who have fairly Left views relative to what I expect is the norm. The authors speculate some of it has to do with increasing party polarity, yes, but that doesn't seem an adequate explanation. Perhaps in the absence of a Just War narrative to ride off, current service is pared down to people who serve on account of "duty," stripped of any kind of geopolitical context; and people who would otherwise serve due to family history self-select out or even are told by their forebears not to participate. evilweasel posted:My immediate suspicion is that the most recent wars have been so politicized that the bias is in who enrolls in the military. The article notes that as a possibility but dismisses it for reasons I don't consider compelling - "Young men (and women) join the armed forces for many personal, career, financial, and civic reasons beyond ideology or politics." Sure, it's not the only reason people join but you only need a bias - and once you get that bias it can be self-reinforcing. Yeah, I think the authors dismiss political bias too readily for the sake of the relevancy of their own research. Still would be interesting to find out what marginal changes in the experience between enlistment and discharge further drive this (possibly existing) trend.
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Well yeah when you join up, you get surrounded by people telling you that democrats are weak on X, weak on Y, not real soldiers, always trying to cut funding. It's a pretty constant droning, it can start to wear, even if republicans are about 10x worse at war.
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greatn posted:Veterans are from the military which is now just jam packed full of right wingers, doesn't seem that complicated. Its sad that this is incredibly true.
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Did you guys know that all of the reasons for the protest at Mizzou were made up? Did you also know that the kid doing the hunger strike comes from a family worth 20 million dollars and therefore can't know about being oppressed? So it really really was just a bunch of negroes getting all uppity! - the American right
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Crain posted:What ever happened to that "hearing protection" bill that was trying to remove suppressors from the NFA? Just wait til we get a Republican president again to pass this thing (or maybe just maybe the Bern???), then suppressors get recognized as being in common use, then the courts make California and all the other deep blue states allow them again pursuant to Heller. 
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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The military is disproportionately represented by white men from the Midwest and Southeast. The military doesn't make people conservative (I was conservative when I joined and well on my way to becoming liberal when I got out), military service is self-selecting.
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DeusExMachinima posted:Just wait til we get a Republican president again to pass this thing (or maybe just maybe the Bern???), then suppressors get recognized as being in common use, then the courts make California and all the other deep blue states allow them again pursuant to Heller.  Because hearing protection. And an NRA backed Judiciary.
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If they were controlling for age, I imagine that soldiers during the final draft era were probably more diverse than our likely self selecting population of soldiers as well.
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Typical Pubbie posted:The military is disproportionately represented by white men from the Midwest and Southeast. The military doesn't make people conservative (I was conservative when I joined and well on my way to becoming liberal when I got out), military service is self-selecting. They controlled for old 'n white in the study but I don't know if they compared veteran voting trends with some kind of geographical cross-tab.
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Typical Pubbie posted:The military is disproportionately represented by white men from the Midwest and Southeast. The military doesn't make people conservative (I was conservative when I joined and well on my way to becoming liberal when I got out), military service is self-selecting. Whites are underrepresented in the military compared to the general population, aren't they?
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Alligator Horse posted:They controlled for old 'n white in the study but I don't know if they compared veteran voting trends with some kind of geographical cross-tab. Controlling for age isn't enough. Control for "young white male from a rural area" and I bet the voting trend is exactly where one would expect it to be.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Whites are underrepresented in the military compared to the general population, aren't they? Noooo.
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