THC posted:

I just think Mansbridge is becoming a liability, they should find someone more professional and better at hiding their feelings about the issues they're reporting on. Someone who doesn't have close personal relationships with party functionaries. It's bad because it gives legitimacy to the Conservatives' cries of media bias and unfair treatment. It makes it harder for people like us to argue against those claims.

crowoutofcontext posted:

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...en-ms-treatment

This is bothersome, apparently the new science minister stubbornly advocates what seems to be a dis-proven, pseudo-scientific cure for MS. I don't know the exact details, and was hoping that she just jumped the gun once in an otherwise spotless career, but she still advocates it while hinting at conspiracy-like power clubs in the science world preventing its dissemination.

The thing that bothers me about this is that one major blunder in the public eye over stuff like this, especially with the rhetoric which she uses, could really re-enforce the same distrust for science and science based-governance among some of the public, the same public which helped Harper's muffling go without much protest.

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I have asked very clearly for the government to state its position on access to after care for MS patients who have travelled out of country for CCSVI treatment. Is it the federal government’s position that “MS patients who have received a venous procedure abroad should be reassured that they will be continued to be cared for by their physicians and/or regular MS specialists as any other patients?” or does the government view follow-up care as an issue that is primarily the responsibility of provincial and territorial governments? Or is it the position that “the federal government has provided regular MS research updates to provincial and territorial jurisdictions, which have the responsibility to ensure that Canadians receive appropriate health treatments and follow-up care.”

What is the government doing to ensure that no Canadian is denied post-treatment and follow-up care by a province or territory? Minister, the above questions regarding follow-up care are fundamental to Canadians with MS, and they need to know what recourse and resources they have should they be denied follow-up care, as Roxanne Garland was.

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Chronic cerebrospinal venous insufficiency (CCSVI) continues to be described as a “controversial therapy” for multiple sclerosis in Canada. Canadians, meanwhile, have yet to be informed whether the first procedure for the promised clinical trials for CCSVI has even been performed.

Each new international study brings, in the meantime, fresh media claims that the treatment has been proven or disproven – ignoring the scientific method and the balance of evidence.

The most recent study to receive international attention, out of Buffalo, claimed the procedure failed to improve the health of MS patients. It has yet to receive peer review, did not include enough patients to produce statistically significant results and included adverse (related and unrelated) events – such as intercourse pain and a diagnosis of shingles – up to 24 months after the procedure.

Canadians living with MS are tired of the rollercoaster ride that comes with each new positive and negative study, and require real answers from their minister of health – and more importantly, progress and results from Canada’s own clinical trials.

Ikantski posted:

If the CBC wasn't so openly biased it certainly would be easier to argue that they're not secretly biased. I like it this way though, seems honest.

It's bad because it gives legitimacy to the Conservatives' cries of media bias and unfair treatment but it's good because the majority of Canadians think the conservatives deserve that so really they're just doing the will of the people.

Cultural Imperial posted:

Let's talk about the veterans who are pure human garbage, no not the Somalian airborne shitheels. I'm talking about a whole other echelon of loving stupid.

Canadians who volunteered to fight for the Americans in Vietnam. Lol gently caress you guys and I hope you dumb jock fucks never get a cent of my taxes for treatment of whatever you're now whining about. gently caress you and gently caress off

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The Canadian Armed Forces is investigating racist comments about newly appointed Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan made by a soldier on Facebook.

The military declined to identify the soldier or precisely what was written but a source said the non-commissioned member, a Quebecer, made an “inappropriate statement” about Mr. Sajjan’s “ethnic background.”

Mr. Sajjan immigrated to Canada from India when he was a young boy.

The offensive Facebook post, which was written in French, was quickly removed.

A Forces spokesman said the army’s chain of command is probing the matter.

Mr. Sajjan is a decorated military veteran who served three tours of duty for the Forces in Afghanistan, and one in Bosnia, and worked as a detective in the Vancouver Police Service. Brigadier-General David Fraser once called him the “best single Canadian intelligence asset in theatre.”

The incident of disrespect to the minister prompted Chief Warrant Officer Kevin West to send an e-mail to soldiers warning against such conduct.

He lamented the fact a high-ranking member of the Forces made “negative” comments about the minister and warned them against disrespectful behaviour, adding that to say he is angry would be an understatement.

The Forces issued a strong statement Wednesday condemning the behaviour.

“We are very much aware of an incident in which a Canadian Armed Forces member wrote inappropriate comments on social media about the new Minister of National Defence,” Forces spokesman Dan Le Bouthillier said.

“Racist attitudes are not compatible with military ethos and with effective military service. Any conduct that reflects such attitudes will not be tolerated,” he said.

“The institution is entirely committed to the principle of equality of all people and the dignity and worth of every human being,” the Forces spokesman said.

“As previously stated by Chief of the Defence Staff Jonathan Vance, bullies have no place in the organization.”

THC posted:

Peter Mansbridge really needs to retire

Cultural Imperial posted:

well it begs the question, what kind of loving morons are going to sign up to a military force that procures garbage to send troops to war in? broken submarines? 40 year old helicopters? rented russian cargo planes?

I'm pretty sure dumb people with nothing else to do.

The same goes for CSE or CSIS. lawl it must be a literal tard circus

ocrumsprug posted:

Why anyone would want to be, say a pilot in the CAF, is beyond me.

PT6A posted:

I can't imagine what sort of brain defect you'd have to have to throw away your career so callously just because a Sikh man, who served with distinction in our armed forces, was appointed Minister of National Defence.

mik posted:

I don't see anything that indicates she (in 2013) actually advocated for CCSVI rather she was advocating for MS patients who were confused by all the media hype and conflicting studies. There were many questions from MS patients who wanted information about promised Canadian clinical trials, and ultimately clarification from the government. The Post just saw the lovely Vice article about the same thing and ran with it to create some controversy.

eXXon posted:

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I WOULD PREFER A PM FOCUS ON GROWING THE ECONOMY RATHER THAN THE SIZE OF REFUGEES

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Second most liked comment under a CBC article about Keystone XL

Cultural Imperial posted:

well it begs the question, what kind of loving morons are going to sign up to a military force that procures garbage to send troops to war in? broken submarines? 40 year old helicopters? rented russian cargo planes?

I'm pretty sure dumb people with nothing else to do.

The same goes for CSE or CSIS. lawl it must be a literal tard circus

PT6A posted:

I can't imagine what sort of brain defect you'd have to have to throw away your career so callously just because a Sikh man, who served with distinction in our armed forces, was appointed Minister of National Defence. People that loving stupid shouldn't be allowed near guns, IMO.

jm20 posted:

OSI bean dip posted:

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

why do you both have the sane pony avatar god drat it it's confusing especially when you are arguing

also we really need a thread title, it's dumb to have the colon without anything after

JohnnyCanuck posted:

Ezra Levant was on my local alt rock station's morning zoo today, pretending to give a poo poo about :

A) The environment
B) Montréal

He also said "poo poo" live on the radio no fewer than 6 times - just after 8AM. I wonder who's going to eat the CRTC fine, the station or Ezra himself?

Baronjutter posted:

This was posted in political pictures thread


Not quite sure every single reference.

PhilippAchtel posted:

JohnnyCanuck posted:

Ezra Levant was on my local alt rock station's morning zoo today, pretending to give a poo poo about :

A) The environment
B) Montréal

He also said "poo poo" live on the radio no fewer than 6 times - just after 8AM. I wonder who's going to eat the CRTC fine, the station or Ezra himself?

THC posted:

mik posted:

My wife's co-worker, who's in the Navy Reserve, observed in total honestly that "I can't believe the new defence minister is a Muslim!"

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

why do you both have the sane pony avatar god drat it it's confusing especially when you are arguing

also we really need a thread title, it's dumb to have the colon without anything after

Cultural Imperial posted:

bro

https://www.cse-cst.gc.ca/en/careers-carrieres/professionals-professionnels/pay-remuneration



loving lol the CSE can gently caress off

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

why do you both have the sane pony avatar god drat it it's confusing especially when you are arguing

DariusLikewise posted:

Just catching up, I think this is the most delusion individual, we haven't moved up any world indexes the last 9 years nor have we rebuilt the military. In fact austerity has our military fighting in literal deathtraps.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-to-detail-cap-and-trade-system-for-carbon-emissions-in-coming-days-1.3313232 posted:

Wynne is refusing to say how much the government expects to generate. The group Clean Energy Canada predicts the amount will be in the hundreds of millions of dollars in the initial stages. Environmental Defence puts the figure at $2 billion by 2020.

The government is promising to reinvest the money "back into projects that reduce greenhouse gas pollution and help businesses remain competitive."

quote:

The Toronto candidate bluntly said that it was unforgivable of Mulcair and his strategists to cede the ‘change agent’ mantle to an “empty suit” like Trudeau who won’t fundamentally change the country’s economic and political power structures.

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Neither believes that Mulcair should resign … although they concede that in politics circumstances often change unexpectedly, and the NDP leader could be forced to step down in the unlikely event party members suddenly sour on him.

Do it ironically posted:

I see that Calgary is getting almost 2,500 Syrian refugees in the next two months, possibly the single largest influx of refugees in Calgary ever. Cool, we have lots of jobs available here, I'm also sure that the $695 a month for a family of 4 will buy them the best squalor our city has to offer. But I'm sure with their English skills and professional degrees they'll bounce back extremely quickly and won't be fighting the Somalian gang refugees that plague Calgary already.