Gecnan posted:

Maybe after they get out but being racist active duty is a quick way to not be active duty anymore. You have to depend on everyone and shorting somewhere what their due positive or negative gets noticed quick.

DeusExMachinima posted:

Laying aside the overarching fact that it's a victimless possession crime...

Wearing ear plugs + a suppressor does more good than wearing ear plugs without a suppressor. 135db hearing damage while hunting is also less hurtful than 140+ damage. Not all ear injury is the same, so stop acting like there's no point in trying.


According to some of my father's friends who served back in the 60's, they did marksmanship qual without hearing protection to say nothing of in the field. Are you really surprised to learn the military views soldiers as (somewhat) expendable?

Amergin posted:

To be fair, plenty of people are able to separate their thinking such that they can simultaneously believe "Black people in general are lazy because black culture promotes laziness/thuggery" and "Sgt. Johnson? Oh no he's one of the good ones, he worked his rear end off to escape the cycle of black poverty unlike those other blacks."

CommieGIR posted:

Stop pretending that deregulating suppressors is about health and safety

DeusExMachinima posted:

Laying aside the overarching fact that it's a victimless possession crime...

CommieGIR posted:

Stop pretending that deregulating suppressors is about health and safety

Gecnan posted:

That sucks if the Air Force is jacked up but if you're in a shop and you witness something wrong why not address it. You aren't a civilian when you see a problem you fix it or report it to someone who can.

DeusExMachinima posted:

It's not just about health and safety.

Nonsense posted:

I met a marine at a local bar, through an army reserve friend of mine, that openly boasted he killed at least one kid, and 3 other "durkadurkas". There's no way that all soldiers are like that, but I guess it was why my friend had to preface before meeting him "that the guy crazy hated the people over there, and might have killed a baby". I didn't believe him and this was about 2006.

fknlo posted:

Did you guys know that all of the reasons for the protest at Mizzou were made up? Did you also know that the kid doing the hunger strike comes from a family worth 20 million dollars and therefore can't know about being oppressed? So it really really was just a bunch of negroes getting all uppity!

- the American right

radical meme posted:

A person who earnestly wants a gun silencer is a person that should never be allowed to own any gun.

radical meme posted:

But, he really wants an American 00 designation.

A person who earnestly wants a gun silencer is a person that should never be allowed to own any gun.

Alligator Horse posted:

I wonder how hard it is for researchers to check on individuals' political affiliation (via voter registration). I feel like they could just check to see whether a statistically significant number of persons go from D reg. pre-enlistment to R reg. post-service to determine whether or not the actual institution affects change in political consciousness.

evilweasel posted:

I suspect being in combat causes a certain degree of racism: you've just killed people, your brain is going to be much, much happier with itself if those are bad people (and the more bad, the better), or even better if they're not really people. Sort of a coping mechanism.

DeusExMachinima posted:

I personally don't. I'm not a hunter so they won't do me any good there. I double up on hearing protection at the range and would because of the other shooters even if I did have a silencer. I also have no interest in owning an AR15 but I'm sure you can surmise how I feel about AWBs.

LowellDND posted:

Like 3 out of 4 of the NCOS in my platoon were open Nazis or Kluxers. Had teutonic flags and poo poo, the whole deal.

So uh To think there isn't racism in the military is hopelessly naive.

Mulva posted:

Mulva posted:

DeusExMachinima posted:

Don't be down like that. You've still got the Hughes Amendment and some state-level AWBs!

quote:

A plan to make Colorado the first state to opt out of the federal health law and replace it with universal health care, funded by the taxpayer, is going to be on the Colorado ballot in 2016.

Supporters of universal health care gathered 158,831 qualified signatures, which is more signatures than are required to put the measure on the ballot.

Backers of the measure say employers would pay around 7 percent of a worker's wages into the system. Workers would put around 3 percent into the system. Supporters say the plan would cost around $3 billion a year, but would save $9 billion.

Skeptics of the measure say costs would spiral out of control. It is likely the proposed measure will be discussed in the upcoming presidential election, since Colorado is a battleground state. Groups from both sides are likely going to invest a lot in order to advance the measure or defeat it.

If the ballot is passed, an entirely new government entity would be in charge of running the new health care program. Elected officials in 21 districts would be on the board and would be in charge of raising taxes to fund the new health care system.

Colorado is not the first state to attempt something like this. A few years ago, Vermont got support for a single payer health care system, but eventually the state admitted a large program couldn't be financed due to a lack of money.

a shameful boehner posted:

Colorado is going to put universal health care on the ballot next year:


If it actually passes we may need to annex Wyoming for space for everyone moving here, we already kinda do because of marijuana legalization

evilweasel posted:

I suspect being in combat causes a certain degree of racism: you've just killed people, your brain is going to be much, much happier with itself if those are bad people (and the more bad, the better), or even better if they're not really people. Sort of a coping mechanism.

Luigi Thirty posted:

You know there's zero chance of it passing because there will be a billion Koch dollars opposing it and just being on the ballot will bring every wingnut out to the polls

Mr. Wookums posted:

I would make it a priority to move to CO if that passed.

evilweasel posted:

I suspect being in combat causes a certain degree of racism: you've just killed people, your brain is going to be much, much happier with itself if those are bad people (and the more bad, the better), or even better if they're not really people. Sort of a coping mechanism.

radical meme posted:

This argument doesn't belong in the Politics thread because it is not now and it will not be a political argument for decades to come. You and the people who think like you have won the argument; you win, you get to keep your guns and you get to make all laws touching on guns for the foreseeable future. There is nobody currently running for President, or Governor or any legislative position that can do anything to change this. So why not accept your win with grace and shut the gently caress up about suppressors for you dick extension.

greatn posted:

Isn't Colorado to small of a state for single payer to work? I thought the risk pools just aren't big enough in almost any single state.

Teflon Don posted:

I'd like to see some evidence for this, if there is any at all that is.

Nick Soapdish posted:

I went R pre-service to D post-service. Did enjoy listening to people rag on 'welfare' recipients who didn't understand, even after explaining to them, how absurd that line of thinking is.

Also, as mentioned, Navy is probably the most liberal branch and usually people with terrible opinions either get told to sit in the corner and color or that they are ridiculous and need to shut up.

evilweasel posted:

It's basically using the principle of cognitive dissonance. People don't like holding two contradictory ideas in their head at once, and one idea most people have is "i am a good person". Ergo, if you do something that was bad, you are much more likely to start believing reasons why its actually not bad you did that. People think they're good people, good people don't kill other people, ergo if you killed someone you have a powerful push in your brain to make it OK you did that.

I don't know of any studies that have been done on that specific application of cognitive dissonance but the concept itself is very well demonstrated in studies.

CommieGIR posted:

Its just a slippery slope away from Obama seizing your guns, right?

Luigi Thirty posted:

You know there's zero chance of it passing because there will be a billion Koch dollars opposing it and just being on the ballot will bring every wingnut out to the polls