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DaveWoo: Aug 14, 2004; Fun Shoe

shiksa posted:

so where is trump calling ben carson a pedophile at? god drat, you can't drop a tweet like that, just let the interview come out naturally. as it is i'm all horned up with nowhere to go at the moment.

quote:

(CNN)�Donald Trump said Thursday that Ben Carson's self-described "pathological temper" is incurable -- adding that it's like the sickness of a "child molester."

"It's in the book that he's got a pathological temper," Trump told "Erin Burnett OutFront," speaking about Carson's autobiography. "That's a big problem because you don't cure that ... as an example: child molesting. You don't cure these people. You don't cure a child molester. There's no cure for it. Pathological, there's no cure for that."

In his 1990 autobiography, "Gifted Hands," Carson attributes violent behavior in his youth to his "disease," a "pathological temper" that the Republican presidential hopeful said caused him to strike one friend with a rock and attempt to stab another. In subsequent accounts of his violent youth, Carson said he once attempted to attack his mother with a hammer.

"I'm not bringing up anything that's not in his book," Trump told Erin Burnett. "You know, when he says he went after his mother and wanted to hit her in the head with a hammer, that bothers me. I mean, that's pretty bad. When he says he's pathological -- and he says that in the book, I don't say that -- and again, I'm not saying anything, I'm not saying anything other than pathological is a very serious disease. And he said he's pathological, somebody said he has pathological disease."

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:01

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# ? May 27, 2024 19:51

PostNouveau: Sep 3, 2011; VY till I die; Grimey Drawer

Montasque posted:

In the last week Trump has...

- Called a boycott on a company for supposedly being anti-Christmas
- Put forward a plan to create a DEPORTATION FORCE to round up 11 million illegals and deport them.
- Called for nationalizing a piece of the Keystone pipeline.
- Said wages are too high
- Claimed Putin is doing a great job in Syria.
- Likened Ben Carson, a political opponent, to a pedophile.

And after all that he's only the second craziest candidate running. He's done, it's over, Trump is done.

EDIT:

I'm actually surprised it took this long for Third-Position politics to rise in America. The Tea-Party was the vanguard, now the Trumpabteilung are taking over.

He called John McCain a loser for being a POW and didn't suffer for it.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:08

i am the bird: Mar 2, 2005; I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

Pathologizing a black man's behavior as sexually aggressive and abusive is a classic racist tactic (edit: which is to say it should go over well with the base).

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:10

Immortan: Jun 6, 2015; by Shine

DaveWoo posted:

Here you go:

Why would this hurt Trump when so many evangelicals that Carson is a part of have indeed been known to be child molesters?

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:12

Wanamingo: Feb 22, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

DaveWoo posted:

Here you go:

This might be more scathing if any of the stuff in Carson's books actually happened

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:13

Michael Corleone: Mar 30, 2011; by VideoGames

The GHWB killed JFK isn't a new conspiracy theory at all.

Also, when Carson finally drops out, won't most of his base go over to Cruz, with a little going to the Huckster? And if Trump implodes, I think his supporters would be scattered, probably a decent amount going over to Marco or JEB!

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:15

HUGE PUBES A PLUS: Apr 30, 2005

shiksa posted:

so where is trump calling ben carson a pedophile at? god drat, you can't drop a tweet like that, just let the interview come out naturally. as it is i'm all horned up with nowhere to go at the moment.

He actually said Carson's psychopathy is like that of a child molester.

Meanwhile, the GOP establishment may be really panicking for real. Could it be time to draft another loser to run for office, just so we have someone who at least looks normal?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0f76_story.html

quote:

Less than three months before the kick-off Iowa caucuses, there is growing anxiety bordering on panic among Republican elites about the dominance and durability of Donald Trump and Ben Carson and widespread bewilderment over how to defeat them.

Party leaders and donors fear nominating either man would have negative ramifications for the GOP ticket up and down the ballot, virtually ensuring a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency and increasing the odds that the Senate falls into Democratic hands.

The party establishment is paralyzed. Big money is still on the sidelines. No consensus alternative to the outsiders has emerged from the pack of governors and senators running, and there is disagreement about how to prosecute the case against them. Recent focus groups of Trump supporters in Iowa and New Hampshire commissioned by rival campaigns revealed no silver bullet.

In normal times, the way forward would be obvious. The wannabes would launch concerted campaigns, including television attack ads, against the front-runners. But even if the other candidates had a sense of what might work this year, it is unclear if it would ultimately accrue to their benefit. Trump�s counter-punches have been withering, while Carson�s appeal to the base is spiritual, not merely political. Even if someone was able to do significant damage to them, there�s no telling who their supporters would turn to, if anyone.

�The rest of the field is still wishing upon a star that Trump and Carson are going to self-destruct,� said Eric Fehrnstrom, a former adviser to 2012 nominee Mitt Romney. But, he said, �they have to be made to self-destruct. . .Nothing has happened at this point to dislodge Trump or Carson.�

Fehrnstrom pointed out that the fourth debate passed this week without any candidate landing a blow against Trump or Carson. �We�re about to step into the holiday time accelerator,� he said. �You have Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year�s, then Iowa and a week later, New Hampshire, and it�s going to be over in the blink of an eye.�

According to other Republicans, some in the party establishment are so desperate to change the dynamic that they are talking anew about drafting Romney � despite his insistence that he will not run again. Friends have mapped out a strategy for a late entry to pick up delegates and vie for the nomination in a convention fight, according to the Republicans, who were briefed on the talks, though Romney has shown no indication of reviving his interest.

For months now, the GOP professional class assumed Trump and Carson would fade with time. Voters would get serious, the thinking went, after seeing the outsiders share a stage with more experienced politicians at the first debate. Or when summer turned to fall, kids went back to school and parents had time to assess the candidates. Or after the second, third or fourth debates, certainly.

None of that happened, of course, leaving establishment figures disoriented. Consider Thomas H. Kean Sr., a former New Jersey governor who for most of his 80 years has been a pillar of his party. His phone is ringing daily, bringing a stream of exasperation and confusion from fellow GOP power brokers.

�People usually start off in the same way: Pollyanna-ish,� Kean said. �They assure me that Trump and Carson will eventually fade. Then we�ll talk some more and I give them a reality check. I�ll say, �The guy in the grocery store likes Trump, so does the guy who cuts my hair. They�re probably going to stick with him. Who knows if this ends?��

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, herself an outsider who rode the tea party wave into office five years ago, explained the phenomenon.

�You have a lot of people who were told that if we got a majority in the House and a majority in the Senate, then life was gonna be great,� she said in an interview Thursday. �What you�re seeing is that people are angry. Where�s the change? Why aren�t there bills on the president�s desk every day for him to veto? They�re saying, �Look, what you said would happen didn�t happen, so we�re going to go with anyone who hasn�t been elected.��

Before Tuesday�s debate in Milwaukee, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker had a private reception at the Pfister Hotel with party leaders, donors and operatives. There was little appetite for putting a political knife in the back of either Trump or Carson, according to one person there. Rather, attendees simply hoped both outsiders would go away.

There are similar concerns about Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, who is gaining steam and loathed by party elites, but they are more muted, at least for now.

Charlie Black, who has advised presidential campaigns since the 1970s, said he believes the 2016 contest �will eventually fall into the normal pattern of one outsider and one insider, and historically the insider always wins.�

Black said he was briefed on the findings of two recent private focus groups of Trump supporters in Iowa and New Hampshire that showed these voters knew little about his policy views beyond immigration. �Things like universal health care and other more liberal positions he�s taken in the past will all get out before people vote in New Hampshire,� he said. Black said the focus groups were commissioned by two rival campaigns, but he was not authorized to identify them.

One well-funded outside group, the Club for Growth, has aired ads attacking Trump in Iowa and more recently came out against Carson as well. �Donald Trump and Dr. Ben Carson are in over their heads,� said Club for Growth President David McIntosh, labeling both candidates as �pretenders.�

Still, the party establishment�s greatest weapon � big money � is partly on the shelf. Kenneth G. Langone, a founder of Home Depot and a billionaire supporter of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, said he is troubled that many associates in the New York financial community have so far refused to invest in a campaign due to the race�s volatility.

�Some of them are in, but too many are still saying, �I�ll wait to see how this all breaks,�� Langone said. �People don�t want to write checks unless they think the candidate has a chance of winning.� He said that his job, as a mega-donor, �is to figure out how we get people on the edge of their chairs so they start to give money.�

Many of Romney�s 2012 National Finance Committee members have sat the race out so far, including Peter A. Wish, a Florida doctor whom several 2016 candidates have courted.

�I�m not a happy camper,� Wish said. �Hopefully somebody will emerge who will be able to do the job,� but, he added, �I�m very worried that the Republican-base voter is more motivated by anger, distrust of D.C. and politicians and will throw away the opportunity to nominate a candidate with proven experience that can win.�

The concern among some party elites goes beyond electability, according to one Republican strategist, who was granted anonymity to speak frankly about the worries.

�We�re potentially careening down this road of nominating somebody who frankly isn�t fit to be president in terms of the basic ability and temperament to do the job,� this strategist said. �It�s not just that it could be somebody Hillary could destroy electorally, but what if Hillary hits a banana peel and this person becomes president?�

Concern about Trump intensified this week after he made two comments that could prove damaging in a general election. First, he explained his opposition to raising the minimum wage by saying �wages are too high.� Second, he said he would create a federal �deportation force� to remove the more than 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the United States illegally.

�To have a leading candidate propose a new federal police force that is going to flush out illegal immigrants across the nation? That�s very disturbing and concerning to me about where that leads Republicans across the board,� said Dick Wadhams, a former GOP chairman in Colorado, a swing state where Republicans are trying to pick up a Senate seat next year.

Said Austin Barbour, a veteran operative and fundraiser now advising former Florida governor Jeb Bush: �If we don�t have the right [nominee], we could lose the Senate and we could face losses in the House. Those are very, very real concerns. If we�re not careful and we nominate Trump, we�re looking at a race like Barry Goldwater in 1964 or George McGovern in 1972, getting beat up across the board because of our nominee.�

George Voinovich, a retired career politician who rose from county auditor to mayor of Cleveland to governor of Ohio to U.S. senator, said this cycle has been vexing.

�This business has turned into show business,� said Voinovich, who is backing Ohio Gov. John Kasich. �We can�t afford to have somebody sitting in the White House who doesn�t have governing experience and the gravitas to move this country ahead.�

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:16

i am the bird: Mar 2, 2005; I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

I hope that normal looking loser is Mitt Romney!

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:19

fronz: Apr 7, 2009; Lipstick Apathy

Montasque posted:

IF Donald Trump actually likened Ben Carson to a Child Molester he's done. This is the moment everyone in the GOP has been waiting for.

And once Donald is done it's Rubio/Cruz time.

Didn't you say that about the 9/11 comments tho?

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:20

Harald: Jul 10, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

Michael Corleone posted:

The GHWB killed JFK isn't a new conspiracy theory at all.

Also, when Carson finally drops out, won't most of his base go over to Cruz, with a little going to the Huckster? And if Trump implodes, I think his supporters would be scattered, probably a decent amount going over to Marco or JEB!

I think trump supporters might go for Carly next , assuming she is still in the game

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:22

Skellybones: May 31, 2011; Fun Shoe

Trump, through luck, intuition or savvy, didn't actually call Carson a paedophile, but created an association in viewer's minds that will now indelibly link Carson to molesting children, based off Carson's own admission of having an anger problem. Genius.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:24

Immortan: Jun 6, 2015; by Shine

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

He actually said Carson's psychopathy is like that of a child molester.

Meanwhile, the GOP establishment may be really panicking for real. Could it be time to draft another loser to run for office, just so we have someone who at least looks normal?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0f76_story.html

The establishment thinking that bringing Romney back into the race would dislodge Trump or Carson just illustrates how stupid they are.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:25

Harald: Jul 10, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

is it too late for Boehner to throw his hat in the ring? I just want to see this glorious clusterfuck get worse.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:27

jerk1000: Dec 3, 2014

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

If we don�t have the right [nominee], we could lose the Senate and we could face losses in the House.

Kind of depressing that it seems that they'd retain the House, even in a landslide loss.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:29

Top Bunk Wanker: Jan 31, 2005; Top Trump Anger

DaveWoo posted:

Here you go:

Trump's not wrong about anything he's saying there.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:37

Joementum: May 23, 2004; jesus christ

Mitt Romney versus Donald Trump would be absolutely hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJJKW7ea1oc

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:37

oystertoadfish: Jun 17, 2003

Skellybones posted:

Trump, through luck, intuition or savvy, didn't actually call Carson a paedophile, but created an association in viewer's minds that will now indelibly link Carson to molesting children, based off Carson's own admission of having an anger problem. Genius.

yeah the idea that trump blundered in this interview was just a lie told to get people to watch the interview he's actually pretty good at this

the question is whether 'this' is going to work through the primaries. i'm interested to find out

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:37

Bethamphetamine: Oct 29, 2012

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/23/mitt-romney-has-double-digit-lead-2016-gop-pack-po/

quote:

Former Massachusetts Gov. and 2012 GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney has a double-digit lead over other potential 2016 Republican contenders in a new poll.

...

When voters were asked to choose between Mr. Romney and Mr. Bush in a head-to-head match-up, 49 percent picked Mr. Romney, 32 percent said Mr. Bush and 19 percent were undecided; the two heavyweights met privately in Salt Lake City on Thursday.

The survey of 787 likely Republican voters was conducted Jan. 18-19 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

Memories of early 2015, before their entire political machine caved in on itself.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:41

nachos: Jun 27, 2004; Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

I hope the GOP is stuck in an eternal cycle of drafting Romney and Ryan to solve their problems

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:44

Jewel Repetition: Dec 24, 2012; Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

God bless Trump, and God bless America.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:49

Immortan: Jun 6, 2015; by Shine

Jewel Repetition posted:

God bless Trump, and God bless America.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:50

memy: Oct 15, 2011; by exmarx

Jewel Repetition posted:

God bless Trump, and God bless America.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 02:52

Montasque: Jul 18, 2003; Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

fronz posted:

Didn't you say that about the 9/11 comments tho?

I don't think I said they would kill him but have the potential to kill him. I was wrong on that, and hell, I maybe wrong on this one too!

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:04

Otherkinsey Scale: Jul 17, 2012; Just a little bit of sunshine!

Do It Once Right posted:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/23/mitt-romney-has-double-digit-lead-2016-gop-pack-po/

Memories of early 2015, before their entire political machine caved in on itself.

What really dates this is calling Jeb a "political heavyweight".

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:07

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Skellybones posted:

Trump, through luck, intuition or savvy, didn't actually call Carson a paedophile, but created an association in viewer's minds that will now indelibly link Carson to molesting children, based off Carson's own admission of having an anger problem. Genius.

That's exactly what the earlier tweet implied too. It's completely by design, I think -- nothing slanderous, nothing untrue, but associates Ben Carson with the concept of child molestation. There is no god; only Trump.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:10

Boosted_C5: Feb 16, 2008; Can't post for 5 years!; Grimey Drawer

Why do they keep teasing me every few months with more "We're gonna draft Mitt Romney" fantasy only never to go through with it???

Mitt Romney was our best nominee since 1992 and there is no shame in losing to an incumbent who is also a once-in-a-generation superstar.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:11

Montasque: Jul 18, 2003; Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

From the Trump rally in Iowa: "ISIS? I WOULD BOMB THE poo poo OUT OF THEM!"

EDIT: Also I guess he shat on Carson for about 10 minutes tonight. Seems he's going full gently caress BEN CARSON.

Montasque fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Nov 13, 2015

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:13

Triglav: Jun 2, 2007; IT IS HARAAM TO SEND SMILEY FACES THROUGH THE INTERNET

I really hope we try building a border wall for a tenth time.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:27

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Triglav posted:

I really hope we try building a border wall for a tenth time.

we're gonna build that dang fence dagnabbit

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:29

Rocks: Dec 30, 2011

hahahahaha Trump one-upping everyone again.

GBTAGBA (god bless Trump and god bless america)

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:30

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

All in all you're just another bling in the wall.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:34

i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

Absurd Alhazred posted:

All in all you're just another bling in the wall.

Money, it's a crime
Share it fairly but don't take a slice of my pie

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:41

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

PT6A posted:

That's exactly what the earlier tweet implied too. It's completely by design, I think -- nothing slanderous, nothing untrue, but associates Ben Carson with the concept of child molestation. There is no god; only Trump.

All hair Donald I Trump.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:41

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

Aliquid posted:

Money, it's a crime
Share it fairly but don't take a slice of my pie

I'll see you on the yooj side of the Moon.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:44

Rocks: Dec 30, 2011

Trump on fire.

Jenna Johnson @wpjenna
Here's how Donald Trump says he would fight the Islamic State: "I would bomb the poo poo out of them." Then he would take their oil.

@wpjenna
Donald Trump on Hillary Clinton: "Outside of the woman's card, she's got nothing."

Vaughn Hillyard @VaughnHillyard
Trump: "Marco Rubio. Weak on illegal immigration. Like weak. Like a baby. Like a baby."

Jenna Johnson @wpjenna
Trump on Carson's changing stories: "How stupid are the people of Iowa? How stupid are the people of this country to believe this crap?"

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:51

Joementum: May 23, 2004; jesus christ

Here's Trump miming stabbing someone in the belt.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:53

Fuckt Tupp: Apr 19, 2007; Science

How come nobody ever asks about killing baby Bin Laden?

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:53

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

Joementum posted:

Here's Trump miming stabbing someone in the belt.

So he's really taking the :siren:

:siren:

lieberal media :siren:

:siren:

's side on this? :psypop:

:psypop:

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:54

Patter Song: Mar 26, 2010; Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.; Fun Shoe

I think Trump is trying to break out of his recent rut. This may work, it may not, but one of his problems has been that he's becoming "just another candidate" and isn't as sexy a story. Calling out Carson is a definite bold action on his part, and one that will be very controversial. It may even alienate some of his people. It's also an attention lightning rod. Trump has to hope that "Trump says outrageous thing" reminds people "Oh yeah, this is Donald Trump!"

I think Trump's in a pretty tricky position. He hasn't collapsed after four months, but he has stagnated and the field is catching up to him. Carson, particularly, can be dangerous as a "safe" alternative to Trump for people that want a crazy outsider but are turned off by Trump's unrepentant assholishness (the trait that makes Something Awful love him). Trump needs to convince people that Carson is in no way, shape, or form "safe."

Speaking of Trump and his conversion into a regular campaign, Trump today boasted that he is the first candidate to meet the state of Virginia's notoriously strict ballot access requirements. The Virginia filing deadline isn't until December 10th, so it shows that his people are working way in advance on this stuff.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:55

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# ? May 27, 2024 19:51

Montasque: Jul 18, 2003; Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Rocks posted:

Trump on fire.

Jenna Johnson @wpjenna
Here's how Donald Trump says he would fight the Islamic State: "I would bomb the poo poo out of them." Then he would take their oil.

@wpjenna
Donald Trump on Hillary Clinton: "Outside of the woman's card, she's got nothing."

Vaughn Hillyard @VaughnHillyard
Trump: "Marco Rubio. Weak on illegal immigration. Like weak. Like a baby. Like a baby."

Jenna Johnson @wpjenna
Trump on Carson's changing stories: "How stupid are the people of Iowa? How stupid are the people of this country to believe this crap?"

The night Trump went full Trump.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 03:56

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