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surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

This looks like my coworkers Bitcoin mining closet at my last job. It was regularly over 100degrees in there.

If we're doing a bitcoin derail I'd be remiss not to post this very OSHA moment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut8mwo7vGBI

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Trogdor_666
Mar 12, 2010

Volume posted:

this is a picture of a plane wing taken midflight



Sorry I was hungry.

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

KozmoNaut posted:

The greatest thing I heard about related to this was a couple of dudes who sold dedicated mining rigs to gullible idiotsenterprising individuals. They would order the hardware and build the rig, then use it for mining for a couple of weeks (months?) of "delivery/setup/configuration/burn-in" time, before sending it to the buyer.

http://gizmodo.com/the-ftc-shuts-down-bitcoin-mining-company-for-operating-1638180075

Apparently, sometimes they didn't even bother to deliver the machines customers ordered.

The crux of the scam was that by the time "preorders" were shipped (years later), the bitcoin miners would no longer be profitable (due to increases in mining difficulty), or were still technically profitable but would never be able to break even at the projected rate of difficulty rise.

Of course, lots of bitcoiners don't care about profitability because they either assume that electricity is free (since their parents pay the bill), or they just steal power.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Parents, employers, or universities.

There are also bots that watch Github for anyone accidentally uploading S3 credentials to a public repo so they can steal them, log into their account, and use all the compute capacity it's allowed to mine. Everything about bitcoin is completely insane.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Thin Privilege posted:

When I was working tech support many years ago I was helping someone with their iPod. This is back when some people were still using the firewire iPods, so we had a bunch of those cables. This customer's iPod was the newer USB version. Well, I accidentally pulled the wrong cable--because both USB and firewire cables were in the same drawer--so I inadvertently plugged his USB iPod in with a firewire cable. The iPod immediately turned off and got extremely hot. I reacted quickly by saying (lying) "the diagnostic test says your iPod is failing.. here, let me get you a new one!" He never knew. The thing was melting hot for 2 days, but luckily did not explode.

For reference, the cables looked identical on the iPod end:






e: USB 2.0 is 5 volts and firewire is 30 volts.

Three-Phase posted:

So there were two different iPod versions, FireWire and USB, and they weren't interchangeable or keyed with different connectors to make it impossible to plug the wrong thing in!? :stonklol:

This isn't true at all. The Firewire iPod chargers went from 5v to 30v and you could absolutely use a Firewire cable on a newer USB iPod with no ill effects. The USB cable could not charge the Firewire iPods however.

The 30-pin connector had both Firewire and USB pins. Dropping the Firewire support was what allowed them to create the Lightning connector.

FCKGW fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Nov 12, 2015

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Darkman Fanpage posted:

Why didn't you tell somebody? Dumbass could have started a fire.

Everyone was well aware. Only one fire was started.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


This does not seem particularly safe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvOTiQKkQMo

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

That man is a treasure. All that awful circuitry.

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer

KozmoNaut posted:

This does not seem particularly safe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvOTiQKkQMo

Goddamn, I think I have that one and it's being used right now as an adapter for some device I bought in the US.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

KozmoNaut posted:

Bitcoin just confuses the gently caress out of me. People are burning through massive amounts of resources in the form of hardware and electricity (creating pollution in the process) in order to run calculations that grant them specific cryptographic keys, which some random nerds with no backing at all have decided are worth something in the real world, despite them being completely useless for anything other than representing that same cryptographic key.

And as we all know, it is apparently completely impossible to convert your bitcoins into actual money at anything even close to the advertised conversion rate. That is if you don't lose all of your bitcoins due to fraud and massive rampant incompetence.

How anyone could ever consider this a viable currency, I have no idea. It hurts my brain to think about it.

This was my first thought when I first heard of bitcoins in 2011 or whenever they first started. I have never received a satisfactory answer.

arnbiguous
Feb 2, 2014
Gary’s Answer
its a really great way to do illegal things with money and in the states at least there are lots of apps that handle the horrific process of converting between real currency and btc
as a speculative investment its hilariously retarded cause the whole market is controlled by people who started mining really early when the difficulty was trivial. i think something like 100 people own 50% of the BTC in the world

BANME.sh
Jan 23, 2008

What is this??
Are you some kind of hypnotist??
Grimey Drawer

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

This was my first thought when I first heard of bitcoins in 2011 or whenever they first started. I have never received a satisfactory answer.

But you see, anything can be a currency if enough people agree it is!!!

autism ZX spectrum
Feb 8, 2007

by Lowtax
Fun Shoe

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

This was my first thought when I first heard of bitcoins in 2011 or whenever they first started. I have never received a satisfactory answer.

They're disrupitve, anonymous, fully traceable, antifragile, fungible, backed by math and employ blockchain technology, OK?

Free Market Mambo
Jul 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Came for the OSHA, stayed for the never nude.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

KozmoNaut posted:

This does not seem particularly safe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvOTiQKkQMo

That's great.

Work's been on a real safety binge lately. Okay, makes sense, reducing workplace accidents and employee downtime directly impacts the bottom line, continuous process improvement rah rah all that TQM stuff.

To announce one of the various safety initiatives, they called an all-hands, and gave everyone a little roadside emergency kit containing reflectors, a set of jumper cables, etc.

A few weeks later, company-wide email: "You know those jumper cables? Yeah, don't use those, they're cheap Chinese junk and are way too thin and will overheat and melt if you actually try to use them to jump-start a car. Get rid of them, and in compensation for trying to burn your car up here's a $20 gift card."

Wait a year. Another safety initiative, another big meeting, another freebie: This time a USB charger that can plug into either the 12VDC power point in your car, to into a 120VAC wall socket.

If you plug it into the wall socket, guess what you see if you put a voltmeter across the metal connections on the cigarette lighter adapter part of it?

Another email: "Don't use those things, here's another gift card."

Stop. Buying. Chinese. Crap.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Phanatic posted:

If you plug it into the wall socket, guess what you see if you put a voltmeter across the metal connections on the cigarette lighter adapter part of it?

120 V AC?

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Phanatic posted:

If you plug it into the wall socket, guess what you see if you put a voltmeter across the metal connections on the cigarette lighter adapter part of it?

Your dead relatives at the end of a long tunnel, calling you to join them?

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

Darkman Fanpage posted:

Why didn't you tell somebody? Dumbass could have started a fire.

If the company is that inept they deserve to have their electricity stolen. Guy at my company started up the software bitcoin miner a few years ago on a mostly idle rarely used lab computer. It was noticed within 24h and he was reprimanded, then fired a week later when he did it again. God forbid actually setting up hardware in the server room.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Azhais posted:

If the company is that inept they deserve to have their electricity stolen. Guy at my company started up the software bitcoin miner a few years ago on a mostly idle rarely used lab computer. It was noticed within 24h and he was reprimanded, then fired a week later when he did it again. God forbid actually setting up hardware in the server room.

He didn't get fired the first time then did it again after officially getting reprimanded and probably told if he did anything like that again fired? loving bitcoiners.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Baronjutter posted:

He didn't get fired the first time then did it again after officially getting reprimanded and probably told if he did anything like that again fired? loving bitcoiners.

The true driving thought behind Bitcoiners: "Cause and effect? Economics? gently caress that poo poo, I'm gonna be rich off the grid! Suck my Marx!"

Bitcoin is in the same realm as communism and anarchism in terms of people it attracts and humor derived from them.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

KozmoNaut posted:

This does not seem particularly safe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvOTiQKkQMo

I love the absolute disdain in his voice when he points out the UK plug's earth pin is plastic because, of course, there's no earth continuity.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

chitoryu12 posted:

The true driving thought behind Bitcoiners: "Cause and effect? Economics? gently caress that poo poo, I'm gonna be rich off the grid! Suck my Marx!"

Bitcoin is in the same realm as communism and anarchism in terms of people it attracts and humor derived from them.

:raise: Either you know nothing about bitcoin and the people who are into it or you know nothing about communism and anarchism. Or more probably both.

Cop OSHA: Don't kick molotov cocktails

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

169Vpeak?

Hijo Del Helmsley posted:

I love the absolute disdain in his voice when he points out the UK plug's earth pin is plastic because, of course, there's no earth continuity.

That device is a work of art. His other videos are great too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myineonn488

As Photonic Induction would say: "Aww... he popped it!"

Three-Phase fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Nov 13, 2015

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
Found this strange but oddly endearing electrical video with a very, very strange soundtrack from what's probably the late 80s in the USSR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RST5eU-4ao

Those berets are really rockin' too. But they need to lose the saxophone. They also seem to like hanging warning signs instead of using actual lockout/tagout, but I guess it's better than nothing.

Three-Phase fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Nov 13, 2015

ghosTTy
Sep 22, 2008

i.imgur.com/JSu5qlG.gifv

lordofthefishes
Mar 30, 2008

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surebet posted:

If we're doing a bitcoin derail I'd be remiss not to post this very OSHA moment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut8mwo7vGBI

What, there were no sparks? Nothing could possibly go wrong!


Mildly OSHA example of why liquid nitrogen can be dangerous
around high heat

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ppd-7HPNVhE

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

ekuNNN posted:

:raise: Either you know nothing about bitcoin and the people who are into it or you know nothing about communism and anarchism. Or more probably both.

You mean all three don't attract wannabe rebels who think capitalism is awful and they need to fight the power of the American market?

stillvisions
Oct 15, 2014

I really should have come up with something better before spending five bucks on this.

KozmoNaut posted:

This does not seem particularly safe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvOTiQKkQMo

C'mon, everyone has to make a suicide plug once in a while, this is just a convenient adapter for it!

El Diablo Bob O
Sep 3, 2011

Hay nada mas,
Oh si' my way!

Three-Phase posted:

Found this strange but oddly endearing electrical video with a very, very strange soundtrack from what's probably the late 80s in the USSR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RST5eU-4ao

Those berets are really rockin' too. But they need to lose the saxophone. They also seem to like hanging warning signs instead of using actual lockout/tagout, but I guess it's better than nothing.

There should have been some OSHA regulations about those ridiculous shirts.

I think I sprained my eyes.

El Diablo Bob O fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Nov 13, 2015

KernelSlanders
May 27, 2013

Rogue operating systems on occasion spread lies and rumors about me.
Holy poo poo this thread's still alive. Which incarnation is this?

no go on Quiznos
May 16, 2007


Pork Pro

KernelSlanders posted:

Holy poo poo this thread's still alive. Which incarnation is this?

The Buttcoin version.

Didn't someone get heat stroke/brain damage from sleeping in the same room with their space-heater-mining-computer?

Edit: found it

CampingCarl
Apr 28, 2008




KozmoNaut posted:

The greatest thing I heard about related to this was a couple of dudes who sold dedicated mining rigs to gullible idiotsenterprising individuals. They would order the hardware and build the rig, then use it for mining for a couple of weeks (months?) of "delivery/setup/configuration/burn-in" time, before sending it to the buyer.

http://gizmodo.com/the-ftc-shuts-down-bitcoin-mining-company-for-operating-1638180075

Apparently, sometimes they didn't even bother to deliver the machines customers ordered.
The actual BFL machines were pretty OSHA too if I remember right. There were some reports of fires and others that just stopped working. Someone opened them up, conveniently voiding the warranty, and found the components were insufficient for the power being supplied or something so you get videos like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iabWK8EIgc

I think the heat stroke from mining thing might have ended up being a hoax but was believable since bitcoiners have done worse.

Kazy
Oct 23, 2006

0x38: FLOPPY_INTERNAL_ERROR

CampingCarl posted:

The actual BFL machines were pretty OSHA too if I remember right. There were some reports of fires and others that just stopped working. Someone opened them up, conveniently voiding the warranty, and found the components were insufficient for the power being supplied or something so you get videos like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iabWK8EIgc

I think the heat stroke from mining thing might have ended up being a hoax but was believable since bitcoiners have done worse.

I love how half the comments on that video are people with the same problem asking where they can get a replacement :allears:

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

People Express, driven by Sithrak

ghosTTy
Sep 22, 2008


Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

chitoryu12 posted:

You mean all three don't attract wannabe rebels who think capitalism is awful and they need to fight the power of the American market?

While true, bitcoin is entirely made up of libertarians looking to get rich

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

chitoryu12 posted:

You mean all three don't attract wannabe rebels who think capitalism is awful and they need to fight the power of the American market?

Yeah, that is exactly what I mean. The people who love Bitcoin are mostly lovely Libertarians who love capitalism and think it's just too regulated at the moment, which is like the opposite of a communist.

Thin Privilege
Jul 8, 2009
IM A STUPID MORON WITH AN UGLY FACE AND A BIG BUTT AND MY BUTT SMELLS AND I LIKE TO KISS MY OWN BUTT
Gravy Boat 2k

FCKGW posted:

This isn't true at all. The Firewire iPod chargers went from 5v to 30v and you could absolutely use a Firewire cable on a newer USB iPod with no ill effects. The USB cable could not charge the Firewire iPods however.

The 30-pin connector had both Firewire and USB pins. Dropping the Firewire support was what allowed them to create the Lightning connector.

I know my internet word doesn't stand for anything but the iPod overheating on me really did happen. I just checked with a former coworker and he said the FW would make the USB iPods charge faster and "sometimes put them back to life if the battery was totally dead" so there definitely was more power from the FW. Maybe it was a defective cable/iPod in my situation, but it's still pretty stupid imo to have those 2 different types of cables be the same 30 pin.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

Improbable Lobster posted:

While true, bitcoin is entirely made up of libertarians looking to get rich

Also idiots whose plans are literally:
1. X but with Bitcoin
2. ???
3. Riches beyond measure

Admittedly the two are not mutually exclusive.

The classic example was Logansryche. He tried to run an online store selling gift cards and didn't even have enough money to buy the $10 gift card his single customer ordered.

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BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

GotLag posted:

Also idiots whose plans are literally:
1. X but with Bitcoin
2. ???
3. Riches beyond measure

And then you have people who are actually capable of running a con job.
Bruce Wagner who wanted to be the "Oprah of bitcoin" and ran a poorly set up "TV" show from his New York Apartment while yelling at his obese co-host/tech kid.

His TV show focused on Skype interviews with other Bitcoin luminaries, such as Atlas, the kid Romulan who'd found a Atlas Shrugged and made it his life's bible with all the gusto a bored teenager trying to make sense of life can do.
He also ran broken bots and conjured up insane ideas on paper about wireless cash Woolong...something.

Other highlights included people ringing in so much his phone was seen to vibrate off the couch armrest, having the camera display it's demo mode when filming and managing to earn the ire of every take-out store in New York who were pranked to deliver food.

Three-Olives dug around and discovered that Bruce was on the run from a series of mortgage frauds committed during the height of the housing crisis and the FBI were interested in where he was.
Adding to that was his odd insistence of creating a BitCoin conference in Pattaya, Thailand of all places. Three-Olives also dug up posts from Bruce suggesting a rather unhealthy proposition to under aged kids and a darker reason for his intentions and soon his house of cards folded.

There are allegations he was behind the crash of mybitcoin.com, a massive wallet site of the time, and that he simply took up the coins and ran to Japan.

BogDew fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Nov 14, 2015

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