The Binding of Isaac: Repentance - You made a shit of piece with your trash Issac

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MrL_JaKiri: Sep 23, 2003; A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Spergatory posted:

So to all the coders in the thread; is coding really this hard to do/easy to gently caress up, or is Nicalis staffed by actual monkeys?

It's both

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# ? May 31, 2024 14:03

Jibo: May 22, 2007; Bear Witness; College Slice

Literally all they had to do was load up the patch and then try starting a Greed mode run.

It's not like it's some kind of obscure or well buried bug.

Tyrone seems like a cool guy but I really hope that Ed moves on to someone halfway competent for his next BoI title (if there is one). Third time's a charm I guess.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:04

So It Goes: Feb 18, 2011

Spergatory posted:

So to all the coders in the thread; is coding really this hard to do/easy to gently caress up, or is Nicalis staffed by actual monkeys?

Coding is really easy to gently caress up, but that's not really asking the same thing as if the product was tested thoroughly enough before release. Games aren't released in playable states because the coders working on them simply never messed up.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:04

Sage Grimm: Feb 18, 2013; Let's go explorin' little dude!

It's more that they pushed out a patch without doing enough Quality Assurance. You can gently caress up all you want in a dev environment but as soon as it's customer facing you best be sure that dumb bugs aren't showing up the moment you start it up.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:05

HenryEx: Mar 25, 2009; ...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...; Grimey Drawer

Anecdotal evidence as a Not Actual Coder: Every time i changed something in that tiny simple overlay i wrote in LUA that displays your chance for an Angel/Devil room in BoI, i somehow managed to introduce two or three bugs i had to weed out again first.

Even if it was something as simple as changing the color of a displayed value.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:05

Grapplejack: Nov 27, 2007

Did the patch deal with greeds super high health? I still have a few people I need to kill him with.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:07

Jusupov: May 24, 2007; only text

HenryEx posted:

Anecdotal evidence as a Not Actual Coder: Every time i changed something in that tiny simple overlay i wrote in LUA that displays your chance for an Angel/Devil room in BoI, i somehow managed to introduce two or three bugs i had to weed out again first.

Even if it was something as simple as changing the color of a displayed value.

Better to just code it and release it. I'm sure the users will discover bugs

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:07

Saigyouji: Aug 26, 2011; Friends 'ave fun together.

Grapplejack posted:

Did the patch deal with greeds super high health? I still have a few people I need to kill him with.

Well, it's kinda hard to tell, since you can't actually play Greed mode.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:08

HenryEx: Mar 25, 2009; ...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...; Grimey Drawer

Grapplejack posted:

Did the patch deal with greeds super high health? I still have a few people I need to kill him with.

It dealt with it, kinda.

As in, Greed Mode crashes

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:09

SuicideSnowman: Jul 26, 2003

Rumored Lost changes:

879 coins in the greed machine and he unlocks the Holy Mantle permanently, however it can be rerolled with the D4 ensuring that nobody except the sadistic people in this thread that like the Lost will ever actually use the D4

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:13

Saigyouji: Aug 26, 2011; Friends 'ave fun together.

Apparently the Greed mode bug is only in release, so I guess they don't test their release builds for some reason?

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:19

Carbon dioxide: Oct 9, 2012

Tetracube posted:

Reddit OP solved it for real guys

What was in that now deleted post?

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:32

Jusupov: May 24, 2007; only text

Kamikaze doesn't hurt the player anymore

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:33

Shadow Ninja 64: May 21, 2007; "I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."

A recap of BoI ARG poo poo in image form that I found useful since I've been gone for several hours: http://imgur.com/POX91Xi

Also that spoilered spacebar item mentioned a page or two back was actually already in the game when the other "broken" items were inaccessible, but I guess now this one has some sort of unlock/achievement tied to it and should be accessible once anyone figures out how to earn it.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:35

asterioth: Jul 27, 2007; If it's worth killing it's worth overkilling.

e:fb

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:37

Jibo: May 22, 2007; Bear Witness; College Slice

Shadow Ninja 64 posted:

A recap of BoI ARG poo poo in image form that I found useful since I've been gone for several hours: http://imgur.com/POX91Xi

Also that spoilered spacebar item mentioned a page or two back was actually already in the game when the other "broken" items were inaccessible, but I guess now this one has some sort of unlock/achievement tied to it and should be accessible once anyone figures out how to earn it.

Ha ha haha. I thought the whole "Lost Boys" thing was a joke.

Honestly a pretty cool ARG then so far. I kind of wish I wasn't halfway across the country so I could look for some missing posters.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:43

CJacobs: Apr 17, 2011; Reach for the moon!

The crash apparently is not with Greed Mode, but with large boss rooms, per Edmund's twitter:

I guess that would make sense since Greed Mode takes place in what is basically a large boss room layout-wise. So if you encounter Mr. Fred in your normal mode run, the game probably will also crash then.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:45

spit on my clit: Jul 19, 2015; by Cyrano4747

Grapplejack posted:

I don't think the lost should start with the holy mantle. the d4 is good.

yeah ok but let me tell you how playing the lost works now

1. start
2. hold R until you see a treasure room
3. collect treasure, reset if it is a space bar item
4. reroll, if you don't roll into the holy mantle, go to step one
5. if you get holy mantle, look for a spacebar item to replace the D4 because it is now utter garbage

alt scenario for step three is to disregard step four if you find the holy mantle in the treasure room

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:48

Ariong: Jun 25, 2012; Get bashed, platonist!

Shadow Ninja 64 posted:

A recap of BoI ARG poo poo in image form that I found useful since I've been gone for several hours: http://imgur.com/POX91Xi

Also that spoilered spacebar item mentioned a page or two back was actually already in the game when the other "broken" items were inaccessible, but I guess now this one has some sort of unlock/achievement tied to it and should be accessible once anyone figures out how to earn it.

The urls in that image do not work. Do you have a mirror for the voicemail?

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:49

Jusupov: May 24, 2007; only text

CJacobs posted:

The crash apparently is not with Greed Mode, but with large boss rooms, per Edmund's twitter:

I guess that would make sense since Greed Mode takes place in what is basically a large boss room layout-wise. So if you encounter Mr. Fred in your normal mode run, the game probably will also crash then.

Well mega satan didn't crash me, just killed me since my fire rate was once per 10 seconds.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:49

asterioth: Jul 27, 2007; If it's worth killing it's worth overkilling.

Ariong posted:

The urls in that image do not work. Do you have a mirror for the voicemail?

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Oh0oPjFZKq

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:50

Shadow Ninja 64: May 21, 2007; "I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."

Ariong posted:

The urls in that image do not work. Do you have a mirror for the voicemail?

I didn't even try them, you might have to comb through the thread(s) about the ARG in the subreddit to see if anyone reuploaded the voicemails.

Edit: Or look in the post above this.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:50

Ariong: Jun 25, 2012; Get bashed, platonist!

asterioth posted:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Oh0oPjFZKq

Thanks.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:51

Waffle!: Aug 6, 2004; I Feel Pretty!

Azazel is no longer poo poo. As for the rest of the problems...

# ? Nov 13, 2015 21:56

Brannock: Feb 9, 2006; by exmarx; Fallen Rib

Are there not patch notes?

# ? Nov 13, 2015 22:05

bare bottom pancakes: Sep 3, 2015; Production: Complete

Brannock posted:

Are there not patch notes?

Why would there be patch notes?

# ? Nov 13, 2015 22:06

Amcoti: Apr 7, 2004; Sing for the flames that will rip through here

Brannock posted:

Are there not patch notes?

-Various bug fixes.
-Look to La Luna.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 22:07

PoizenJam: Dec 2, 2006; Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!

Oh boy, crashed on entering the blue womb on my most epic Eden run ever. How wonderful.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 22:08

Araxxor: Oct 20, 2012; My disdain for you all knows no bounds.

Brannock posted:

Are there not patch notes?

According to Edmund, the whole development process on Isaac is so disorganized that Edmund can't keep track of or isn't aware of some of the changes to the game. And that's not counting the numerous bugs that sometimes crawl into the patches.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 22:09

spit on my clit: Jul 19, 2015; by Cyrano4747

Atomicated posted:

-Various bugs implemented.
-Look to La Luna.

yeah pretty much

# ? Nov 13, 2015 22:09

Jusupov: May 24, 2007; only text

Brannock posted:

Are there not patch notes?

Closest you'll get
http://pastie.org/private/94iwib5muvk4qlaln8nfq

# ? Nov 13, 2015 22:09

flatluigi: Apr 23, 2008; here come the planes

I'll never understand why people keep working with Nicalis, tbh

# ? Nov 13, 2015 22:11

HenryEx: Mar 25, 2009; ...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...; Grimey Drawer

The funny thing is, the very first build that went online on Steam for Afterbirth had patch notes. There was just a text file with some of the most recent changes in your game folder.

It's been conspicuously absent from the (very swiftly) following patch and onwards.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 22:13

asterioth: Jul 27, 2007; If it's worth killing it's worth overkilling.

Retro Vision got the gently caress nerfed out of it, thankfully. It only shows the effect once and the effect didn't look as strong as it was before.

Edit: Nevermind, it just took a minute + for the effect to come back. :v:

# ? Nov 13, 2015 22:22

uXs: May 3, 2005; Mark it zero!

Is it normal that every single run of the Head Trauma challenge has Little Horn as the first floor boss?

# ? Nov 13, 2015 22:26

Jibo: May 22, 2007; Bear Witness; College Slice

Welp now that the patch is out I tried to unlock The Lost on my new save and didn't get him despite no missteps.

My steps:

Died to Mulliboom as Isaac in Cellar on a seeded run (Mulliboom showed on death poster)
Died to my own bomb in Flooded Cave 1 as Maggie (Bomb showed on death poster)
Died to Mom Stomp as Judas in Necropolis II (Mom foot shown in death poster)
Died to mashing myself into Satan's back in Sheol (Satan's head shown in death poster)

I"m guessing either the seeded run for Isaac or the Flooded Caves for Maggie hosed this up somehow. Or it's a new glitch in the patch.

What are my options for cheating the unlock so I don't have to waste another hour on this?

# ? Nov 13, 2015 22:32

RatHat: Dec 31, 2007; A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

uXs posted:

Is it normal that every single run of the Head Trauma challenge has Little Horn as the first floor boss?

Isn't that a good thing since he kills himself?

# ? Nov 13, 2015 22:35

Mr Phillby: Apr 8, 2009; ~TRAVIS~

Weirdly I had a save just before Ultra Greed and it let me load it just fine. Ultra Greed's big boss room doesn't trigger the crash for some reason. Seems like he's back to his previous difficulty, I had no trouble beating him with just one heart and semi reasonable damage as lilith without a charge from the box.

Another new bug: Secret rooms can now spawn adjacent to thin rooms. You can't bomb in from a thin room, but you can bomb out into one. I just puts you at one of the other doors and the hole doesn't appear.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 23:02

HenryEx: Mar 25, 2009; ...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...; Grimey Drawer

Jibo posted:

Welp now that the patch is out I tried to unlock The Lost on my new save and didn't get him despite no missteps.

My steps:

Died to Mulliboom as Isaac in Cellar on a seeded run (Mulliboom showed on death poster)
Died to my own bomb in Flooded Cave 1 as Maggie (Bomb showed on death poster)
Died to Mom Stomp as Judas in Necropolis II (Mom foot shown in death poster)
Died to mashing myself into Satan's back in Sheol (Satan's head shown in death poster)

I"m guessing either the seeded run for Isaac or the Flooded Caves for Maggie hosed this up somehow. Or it's a new glitch in the patch.

What are my options for cheating the unlock so I don't have to waste another hour on this?

Get CheatEngine, and copy&paste this script into it:

code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<CheatTable>
  <CheatEntries>
    <CheatEntry>
      <ID>102</ID>
      <Description>"Unlock The Lost"</Description>
      <LastState Activated="0"/>
      <Color>80000008</Color>
      <VariableType>Auto Assembler Script</VariableType>
      <AssemblerScript>[ENABLE]
aobscanmodule(LOST,isaac-ng.exe,39 4C 24 28 75 58)
registersymbol(LOST)

LOST+4:
db EB 19
 
[DISABLE]
LOST+4:
db 75 58

unregistersymbol(LOST)
</AssemblerScript>
    </CheatEntry>
  </CheatEntries>
</CheatTable>

Activate it, and die in the game (4 times). Should unlock The Lost.

HenryEx fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Nov 13, 2015

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Power of Pecota: Aug 4, 2007; Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

RatHat posted:

Isn't that a good thing since he kills himself?

He bombs himself sometimes but I bet dealing with the homing shots you need to hit with head trauma would suck so much

gently caress head trauma as a challenge, I've done the original challenges over three saves and I've had more fun doing Family Man than Head Trauma.

# ? Nov 13, 2015 23:08

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