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I can't find the post, but whoever mentioned that the EU stuff like the Sunkiller and how it was like a 10 year wrote it was apparently prophetic: (Spoilering for anyone who doesn't want to hear stuff about the new movie.) Abrams said in an interview that the movie will have the "Starkiller" which is like the Death Star but with more power. And that Kylo Ren and his Army will be like Vader and his baddies but more dangerous. Hopefully it doesn't end up as cheesy as it sounds. Source: http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/632791-j-j-abrams-talks-star-wars-the-force-awakens-starkiller-base-domhnall-gleeson-on-general-hux Or maybe it will just make the SWTOR stories better by comparison.
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Hmm, how do we make our Jedi players feel like big heroes? How about some long windy tunnels filled with innocent menial labourers that they have to carve through to reach a series of identical and meaningless objectives? Great! Will there be a sense of peril or urgency about this mission? No! They'll be so overwhelmingly powerful that the whole ordeal will be tedious! Good job, we've done it again.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:01
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Based on what I've read itt LS Sith sounds like it might make me feel like less of a monster c/d?
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Nov 13, 2015 23:18
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sassassin posted:Based on what I've read itt LS Sith sounds like it might make me feel like less of a monster c/d? It will. LS Sith makes you one of the few sane people in a galaxy filled with sanctimonious Jedi, power-mad Sith, self-righteous Republic soldiers, incompetent Imperials, and the odd eldritch horror.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:23
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LS Sith Warrior has more than a few occasions where you tell someone that you don't want to hurt them, they attack you, you beat them down, and then they're still incredulous that you don't want to kill them considering that they're still alive. You just keep getting more and more exasperated.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:28
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Spoilers for the Sith Warrior/Inquisitor plot: So I'm 2/2 on corrupting padawans now. Jaesa's was cool because it felt natural and was a big act climax but wow Ashara's felt just more dumb than anything else. As a Jedi do I get to un-corrupt Sith apprentices? Turnabout seems fair play. Also yes LS Sith Warrior is fun.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:30
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The LS Warrior is like some kind of... Dark Knight. I'm actually starting a Jedi Knight now, does going Dark Side with them work out narrative-wise
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Nov 13, 2015 23:32
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Pierson posted:Spoilers for the Sith Warrior/Inquisitor plot: So I'm 2/2 on corrupting padawans now. Jaesa's was cool because it felt natural and was a big act climax but wow Ashara's felt just more dumb than anything else. Nope, but if you are a female Consular you get an awesome plotline with Nadia where you are actually training her. Male Consular is too busy trying to sex her.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:33
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Dexo posted:Nope, but if you are a female Consular you get an awesome plotline with Nadia where you are actually training her. Male Consular is too busy trying to sex her. Male Consular is optionally too busy trying to stop her from sexing him.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:36
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Cythereal posted:Male Consular is optionally too busy trying to stop her from sexing him. Not her fault. No female is capable of resisting Nolan North.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:38
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Iron Tusk posted:As an aside, if you want to run SM ops and no one is at whatever moment, just start up a group yourself. Well yeah. The reason I asking was because I wanted to know if there was a regular guild night established, like for HMs, which tend to be more efficient. I am also aware I can use group finder and /1 to ask pubbies in case that was someone elses next suggestion.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:39
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Pierson posted:As a Jedi do I get to un-corrupt Sith apprentices? Turnabout seems fair play. No. One gets un-corrupted before she joins the party, and you can convince a couple of Sith Lords to join the Jedi, but there's nothing comparable to both Sith picking up a nubile young Padawan and corrupting her.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:42
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Blackchamber posted:Well yeah. The reason I asking was because I wanted to know if there was a regular guild night established, like for HMs, which tend to be more efficient. I am also aware I can use group finder and /1 to ask pubbies in case that was someone elses next suggestion. For the most part we haven't had enough interest in "Regular" raid nights - even the pre-planned raids usually have us looking for 2-3 fill ins, despite there often being 30+ people on.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:42
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Pierson posted:As a Jedi do I get to un-corrupt Sith apprentices? Turnabout seems fair play. Sort of, there's one NPC you can turn away from the dark as a LS Knight. And one of your companions is a sith who's working with you out of convenince but if you try and convert him to the light he just laughs you off.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:43
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Medullah posted:For the most part we haven't had enough interest in "Regular" raid nights - even the pre-planned raids usually have us looking for 2-3 fill ins, despite there often being 30+ people on. OK well then I don't need to sweat my schedule. Thanks.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:06
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Kurieg posted:LS Sith Warrior has more than a few occasions where you tell someone that you don't want to hurt them, they attack you, you beat them down, and then they're still incredulous that you don't want to kill them considering that they're still alive. You just keep getting more and more exasperated. Being LS Sith seems to be even more terrifying to people, as they tend to assume that you're up to something extra devious and they can't figure it out
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Nov 14, 2015 00:14
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Geniasis posted:Being LS Sith seems to be even more terrifying to people, as they tend to assume that you're up to something extra devious and they can't figure it out Jedi are especially prone to this. They are typically just really confused that you exist, and assume you have some kind of angle they can't see. LS Sith is basically a dude convinced that both the Jedi and Sith are hosed and that it's his job to make the galaxy a saner place. Because make no mistake even reformer LS Sith still thinks the Jedi are garbage. Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Nov 14, 2015 |
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Nov 14, 2015 00:18
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Pierson posted:Spoilers for the Sith Warrior/Inquisitor plot: So I'm 2/2 on corrupting padawans now. Jaesa's was cool because it felt natural and was a big act climax but wow Ashara's felt just more dumb than anything else. Jaesa's DS conversion was more fun (turn to the dark side young one. Wait wait whoaaaaa too much dark side reign it in a little), I like Ashara's result better as she figures out a synthesis of the two philosophies.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:25
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DS Jaesa chews more scenery than a termite.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:33
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Captain Oblivious posted:Jedi are especially prone to this. They are typically just really confused that you exist, and assume you have some kind of angle they can't see. Does the method of making the galaxy a saner place involve murdering thousands of miners, technicians and prison wardens? Ilum's lucky it's pretty cos it's dumb as a box of rocks.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:35
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Iron Tusk posted:Jaesa's DS conversion was more fun (turn to the dark side young one. Wait wait whoaaaaa too much dark side reign it in a little), I like Ashara's result better as she figures out a synthesis of the two philosophies.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:42
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Pierson posted:I've literally only just recruited Ashara so I can't speak to their storylines as companions yet. Jaesa agreeing to go with me was a much more compelling scene though as she got to experience the failures of her Jedi master right in front of her and I gave her a new path to follow. Ashara watched me gun down two of her masters after she herself let me into their secret Jedi sanctum and then went "welp guess I can't go back, I'm yours now" and the VA made her sound barely concerned about it. Ashara's fall to the dark side happens *after* her recruitment, not beforehand like Jaesa. Ashara joins you because she kind of hated being a Jedi, has nowhere else to go, and if you're threatening she's terrified of you. Her character and what she's doing on your ship only fill in after she joins the party.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:45
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Captain Oblivious posted:Jedi are especially prone to this. They are typically just really confused that you exist, and assume you have some kind of angle they can't see. It's funny that even LS, as an inquisitor you are still batshit crazy. Just ... a nice(ish) batshit crazy.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:45
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Pierson posted:I've literally only just recruited Ashara so I can't speak to their storylines as companions yet. Jaesa agreeing to go with me was a much more compelling scene though as she got to experience the failures of her Jedi master right in front of her and I gave her a new path to follow. Ashara watched me gun down two of her masters after she herself let me into their secret Jedi sanctum and then went "welp guess I can't go back, I'm yours now" and the VA made her sound barely concerned about it. For some reason the fight bugged out for me and she actually attacked them
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Nov 14, 2015 00:54
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sassassin posted:Does the method of making the galaxy a saner place involve murdering thousands of miners, technicians and prison wardens? I have killed remarkably little non combatants as a LS Sith Warrior. So overall no.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:54
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Captain Oblivious posted:I have killed remarkably little non combatants as a LS Sith Warrior. So overall no. It does suffer a bit from the elitist "Kill all the bad guy's security, who are probably just hired guns or in fear for their life, and then you have to spare the actual leader or you're evil"
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Nov 14, 2015 01:02
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No, this is Star Wars so the bad guys are always evil.
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Nov 14, 2015 01:03
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Captain Oblivious posted:I have killed remarkably little non combatants as a LS Sith Warrior. So overall no. Hmm, I have some thinking to do re: my galactic allegiance. Jedi Knights spend all their time cleaning up Republic-built superweapons projects (some of them with no possible use other than warcrimes) and being an attack dog for bloodthirsty dipshit Republic generals. The number of missions based around going to where "the enemy" lives and just killing everyone in sight is disturbing. Got to get them "Imps". Or gangs and other undesirables. Probably why everyone's constantly shouting about the dire, galaxy-destroying consequences of failure. Got to distract us somehow.
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Nov 14, 2015 01:05
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:It does suffer a bit from the elitist "Kill all the bad guy's security, who are probably just hired guns or in fear for their life, and then you have to spare the actual leader or you're evil" Honestly, I think that's just gameplay concessions in a game where the primary method of play is killing people with red indicators. See also the Jedi Consular story.
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Nov 14, 2015 01:07
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Aphrodite posted:No, this is Star Wars so the bad guys are always evil. Is this the same Star Wars in which it turned out the big scary dude in the cape was actually Luke's father and was redeemed at the end?
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Nov 14, 2015 01:07
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The Republic is exactly like the Empire, just with a little less slavery and quite a bit more hypocrisy.
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Nov 14, 2015 01:08
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No it's the one where it turned out he slaughtered a bunch of kids, twice, and was beyond redemption.
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Nov 14, 2015 01:09
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Ah, so the Star Wars where the drug smuggler saved the day?
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Nov 14, 2015 01:10
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Gasoline posted:The Republic is exactly like the Empire, just with a little less slavery and quite a bit more hypocrisy. Which is the greater crime???
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Nov 14, 2015 01:11
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Han Solo is only considered a smuggler by the evil Empire. He was bringing puppies to orphans.
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Nov 14, 2015 01:14
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Aphrodite posted:Han Solo is only considered a smuggler by the evil Empire. He was bringing puppies to orphans. He is also a slaveowner.
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Nov 14, 2015 01:15
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sassassin posted:Hmm, I have some thinking to do re: my galactic allegiance. You're still going to kill a lot of people, don't get me wrong, this is an MMO, but the Sith Warrior (can) tries to be efficient about it and to target people who's deaths actually serve a purpose in the context of the ongoing quasi-war.
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Nov 14, 2015 01:17
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Cythereal posted:Ashara's fall to the dark side happens *after* her recruitment, not beforehand like Jaesa. Ashara joins you because she kind of hated being a Jedi, has nowhere else to go, and if you're threatening she's terrified of you. Her character and what she's doing on your ship only fill in after she joins the party.
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Nov 14, 2015 01:18
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Star Wars would be more accurately named 'The Bad Guy Wasn't So Bad After All... Wars (even Palpatine made some good points)' The evil guys only seem pure evil if you were 8 when you first watched it and haven't thought about it since.
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I know you have to think that or you've wasted your life, but no. George Lucas made it his mission to remove any nuance. It's all as black and white as it gets. Any scene where a Republic character appeared to be kind of a jerk? Well it turns out that the Empire killed his wife 2 days earlier. That good Imp? Republic spy. Or he was faking it. The half naked guy who felt really sad about that rancor? Rapist.
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