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Bad Moon posted:It's Barry. What we saw was Earth 2 Barry So, Zoom?
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Ville Valo posted:So, Zoom? What does Barry-2's dad have to do with any of this? 
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Nov 12, 2015 22:31
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DarklyDreaming posted:Yeah Oliver's speech at the gravesite makes me think it's someone he looked up to more than just loves, so I'm thinking either Detective Lance or Diggle I would guess it's Lance and Oliver feels responsible because he encouraged Lance to stay close to Darkh.
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Nov 12, 2015 22:32
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Chokes McGee posted:What does Barry-2's dad have to do with any of this? I take it back, it's not Barry in the grave it's E2 Robert Queen  Also how great is we can speculate about this and have it be a possibility. These shows! Its Rinaldo fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Nov 12, 2015 |
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Nov 12, 2015 23:25
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Bad Moon posted:I take it back, it's not Barry in the grave it's E2 Robert Queen Better yet, Darhk uses forbidden magic to make a Robert Queen homunculus that tells people the "Real story" of Oliver's five years after being lost at sea to ruin his mayoral campaign, and that's what's in the grave 
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Nov 13, 2015 00:22
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So wait. John Diggles new codename is Spartan? What about the three seashells?
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Nov 13, 2015 02:39
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I was hoping Dig would be the Guardian but he's probably off limits.
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Nov 13, 2015 03:03
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I know they didn't, but the terrible lighting in that scene made it look like they shot it on a bad blue screen.
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Nov 13, 2015 03:14
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greatn posted:Well they don't know it but the Lazarus pit was destroyed by Nyssa. Did the bad guy on the island say something about what he's looking for is magic waters or something? I keep thinking whatever it is is lazarus pit-related. BrianWilly posted:Especially since, if you think about it, this is basically the same exact thing as that Mirakuru rage thing that Roy had. Now that you pointed it out it's so obvious, and obvious how played out it is at this point.
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Nov 13, 2015 05:41
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Longbaugh01 posted:Did the bad guy on the island say something about what he's looking for is magic waters or something? I keep thinking whatever it is is lazarus pit-related. Oh, poo poo. The commander is Kobra. e: 
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Nov 13, 2015 05:42
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Rhyno posted:I was hoping Dig would be the Guardian but he's probably off limits. Dig reveals that he's in deep cover and his last name at birth is Stewart.
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Nov 13, 2015 18:40
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I'm about finished with season 3 and I'm still confused by everyone making a huge deal out of killing when Diggle racks up body counts on his Suicide Squad missions like it's no ones business. Also I love how Diggle leaves Team Arrow after a Suicide Squad mission when 70% of the time Diggle is back at home base doing nothing during Arrow time. I need to stop paying so much attention to the writing. This is not a show where you pay attention to the writing.
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Nov 13, 2015 19:39
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Chokes McGee posted:Oh, poo poo. The commander is Kobra. Are they going to do the Corsican Brothers thing do you think?
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Nov 13, 2015 20:01
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Gordong Dongbay posted:I'm about finished with season 3 and I'm still confused by everyone making a huge deal out of killing when Diggle racks up body counts on his Suicide Squad missions like it's no ones business. Also I love how Diggle leaves Team Arrow after a Suicide Squad mission when 70% of the time Diggle is back at home base doing nothing during Arrow time. Obviously no kill rules only apply on American soil.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:14
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greatn posted:Obviously no kill rules only apply on American soil. It's blatant Imperialist bullshit!
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Nov 13, 2015 23:35
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Who'd have thought a black ops hit squad would kill people but street vigilantes would t 
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Nov 14, 2015 00:31
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Oracle posted:Did anyone notice the traditional male/female role reversal in this episode, where Felicity is the hard-charging competent person who has to put her life and personal needs aside to save lives and Oliver is the inexperienced, less-intelligent but wanting to help domesticated support trying to make sure she eats/sleeps? (I invited your mom to dinner! I'm making chicken cordon bleu! I want to help! Go take a shower! And a nap!) I thought it was a very interesting juxtaposition from their relationship in previous seasons. Even at the end when they're making up Oliver is half-dressed reclining on the bed while Felicity is fully and modestly dressed, standing. It seemed very deliberate to me as well as completely in character for both. Not to mention the mom's constant objectification of him ('He's hot! And he cooks! Snatch this one up!') Hell even !Mr. Terrific got in a little 'he's straight, you're married' mantra to avoid chatting him up. This was a really good post, thanks. I completely agree that it was definitely deliberate, setting up Ollie to make some sort of emotional miscalculation (that will end up putting whoever is in the grave - in the grave)
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Nov 14, 2015 03:02
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JuHoZ posted:So wait. John Diggles new codename is Spartan? What about the three seashells? It's foreshadowing, in the finale Diggle will need to learn how to crochet. Also fight in the Restaurant Wars.
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Nov 14, 2015 03:16
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aBagorn posted:This was a really good post, thanks. Yup, that was a great post. I was going to respond to it but I was too drunk and/or stoned to figure out words.
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Nov 14, 2015 04:08
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It still bothers me that Team Arrow broke into Kord Industries to steal the quantum doohickey and beat up the innocent security guards. I know they were concerned about Ray but that was a blatant criminal action with no justification other than "Kord probably won't give it to us, better not even attempt to ask, just send in the vigilantes to steal that poo poo and put a beat down on some guys who have done nothing wrong!"
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Nov 14, 2015 07:14
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JuHoZ posted:So wait. John Diggles new codename is Spartan? What about the three seashells? There's actually a lot we don't know about his backstory 
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Nov 14, 2015 07:21
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Kord Industries represents DC's refusal to allow them to use Ted Kord, and who is more villainous than the assholes who run DC corporate?
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Nov 14, 2015 07:22
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Whizbang posted:Kord Industries represents DC's refusal to allow them to use Ted Kord, and who is more villainous than the assholes who run DC corporate? Bob Kane 
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Nov 14, 2015 07:44
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bobkatt013 posted:Bob Kane is an rear end in a top hat from DC corporate, yes.
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Nov 14, 2015 08:00
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Klungar posted:It still bothers me that Team Arrow broke into Kord Industries to steal the quantum doohickey and beat up the innocent security guards. I know they were concerned about Ray but that was a blatant criminal action with no justification other than "Kord probably won't give it to us, better not even attempt to ask, just send in the vigilantes to steal that poo poo and put a beat down on some guys who have done nothing wrong!" I felt the exact same way. Then, randomly, during the last few days I started rewatching some Season 1 and that made me feel a whole lot better about Oliver's current moral standards. poo poo, man.
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Nov 14, 2015 08:00
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Whizbang posted:is an rear end in a top hat from DC corporate, yes. Nope he got DC corporate over the barrel.
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Nov 14, 2015 08:18
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They didn't expect to encounter resistance at Kord, that's why they brought five people. It was team building.
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Nov 14, 2015 08:53
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The killing aspect of the show is obvious a bit complicated, they have tried to show Dig using tranq guns in a few episodes but haven't made a point of mentioning it specifically. The way I try and look at it is, most time Dig is shooting people who are shooting back or attacking so it is self defense (ish) and is seen as not terrible. When Oliver was snapping necks it always seemed something he didn't NEED to do, the fights were won, he had them in a choke hold. Sara killing the guard was the same, the guy was passed out, the fight was over then SNAP.
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Thwomp posted:It's Hal, who we meet this season but dies before he gets his own show. Xenoletum posted:Dig reveals that he's in deep cover and his last name at birth is Stewart. The grave contains the fans' hopes for a Green Lantern spinoff. Oroborus posted:The killing aspect of the show is obvious a bit complicated, they have tried to show Dig using tranq guns in a few episodes but haven't made a point of mentioning it specifically. Exactly, Green Arrow isn't Batman and even after Ollie's change of heart this isn't a "never ever kill people or WE BECOME THE ABYSS" situation, they're just clearly on the other side of the "wanton vigilante executions | lethal force only when necessary" divide now. Unquenchable savage bloodlust is on a whole other level. Even with the tranq guns I'd be surprised if Dig didn't have a backup piece with real bullets on him at all times, just like Ollie and Thea still carry bladed arrows along with the dart and bola loads. McSpanky fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Nov 14, 2015 |
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Nov 14, 2015 15:26
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I wasn't going to bother with this because I thought the last season was pretty loving dire (don't get me wrong I can stand a lot of goofy poo poo, but there was just way too much filler for my liking). I noticed people saying it's better than S3 though, and apparently it all kicks off right away, so I might give it a shot after all. Just a quick question, I always get mixed up with the watch order for this and Flash. Do I watch episodes of Arrow -> Flash, or Flash -> Arrow?
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Nov 15, 2015 03:31
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Flash airs first so Flash->Arrow, but it doesn't really matter until the crossover episodes (around 7 or 8) and even then it probably doesn't matter.
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Nov 15, 2015 03:35
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Thanks.
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Nov 15, 2015 03:42
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It's Jay Garrick in the grave, that's why we haven't seen him in a while on Flash.
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Nov 15, 2015 07:26
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There's like zero chance the season doesn't end with Barry, Jay, Jesse Quick, and Wally West in a massive speedster pile-up against Zoom. Probably some others as well. e: OKAY FRAK this is the Arrow thread but uh same principle remains
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Nov 15, 2015 07:38
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I miss the lethal vigilanteeism, of more accurately I miss Quentin Lance saying "He's droppin bodies!"
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Nov 15, 2015 09:00
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BrianWilly posted:There's like zero chance the season doesn't end with Barry, Jay, Jesse Quick, and Wally West in a massive speedster pile-up against Zoom. Probably some others as well. Ollie will be there to shoot some boxing glove arrows (at last!)
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Nov 15, 2015 09:01
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Golden Bee posted:I miss the lethal vigilanteeism, of more accurately I miss Quentin Lance saying "He's droppin bodies!" I'm pretty sure he used the "dropping bodies" phrase a couple weeks back, obv not about Ollie though but still
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Nov 15, 2015 12:59
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Natalya Fartz posted:Felicity's mom seems a bit too dark of an arc for Felicity, so Lance still feels like the front runner to me. It actually kinda makes sense. Lance falls in love with the mom. Darhk finds out he's a mole and kills her as a revenge act. Barry's friends with Felicity, so it would make sense for him to be at the funeral.
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flosofl posted:Ollie will be there to shoot some boxing glove arrows (at last!) You say this like it hasn't already happened.
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I feel like Felicity is set to go. They're training a new techie in Curtis who could step in once she's gone.
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