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The Warszawa: Jun 6, 2005; Look at me. Look at me.

I am the captain now.

oh my god the loving toto montage in master of none

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:18

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V. Illych L.: Apr 11, 2008; ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

there's also some of what disint is talking about, but that's in no way mainstream in the sense that what my anecdote represents is

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:19

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

if that's hyperirony then what is goonfleet's obsession with the Jews

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:20

V. Illych L.: Apr 11, 2008; ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Luigi Thirty posted:

if that's hyperirony then what is goonfleet's obsession with the Jews

i don't know, but i suspect that it is a better example of hyperirony

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:21

My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

Volkerball posted:

not rye

maybe sourdough

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:21

BENGHAZI 2: Oct 13, 2007; by Cyrano4747

i am free at least of my unjust imprisonment at the hands of the ponytail AA

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:22

Sharkie: Feb 4, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

V. Illych L. posted:

well ok an example:

seven years ago or something i was playing, i don't remember, some call of duty game on xbox live with a headset to talk to my friend's "clan" or what have you

some village map had a roof that it was possible to get on top of to snipe from, so one of our opponents did so, causing confusion among my team since we didn't know you could get up there. so some guy spots the sniper and says (translated) "there's a jew on the roof", shortly followed by "i got the jew"

the second statement makes no sense unless in the context of the first, and it's clearly not meant unironically - nobody seriously thinks that jews tend to shoot at people from roofs, the very idea is absurd - but there's something very sinister there, transforming an ethnic signifier into a slur-like thing that would not be acceptable by anyone (even the guy saying it) in an unironic way. this person would never say "there's a paki on the roof", for instance

so, this guy is able to channel his shameful antisemitism through what is basically a random quip

this is not the best theoretical example, since there's quite a lot more than hyperirony going on here, but it's a real-life example of the kind of bizarre "casual" antisemitism that is gaining ground in norway today

ok, that actually sounds like how "gay" or "human being" is used in the US (ex: "Look at that human being who likes that gay videogame...wait don't call me homophobic, I don't have a problem with gay people!!"), though thankfully people have been pushing back against it and using those words in that sense definitely marks you as a lovely and immature person, at least in many places. And in fact that use of "jew" is also going on in the US, it's just that I think if you scratch off the paint it's just common everyday antisemitism (or homophobia) underneath. Though of course I'm talking about my US perspective of how it's used in the US.

Sharkie fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Nov 14, 2015

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:25

Disinterested: Jun 29, 2011; You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

I think there's some dumb southparky way in which because it's a very strong but old taboo it's now become childishly funny to some people to break it

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:28

Disinterested: Jun 29, 2011; You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

V. Illych L. posted:

i don't know, but i suspect that it is a better example of hyperirony

racism in goonswarm is the ultimate pomo irony whatever in that you can say anything but if people suspect you're using that freedom to just get away with sincerely felt racism you get beat up, but you also get beat up if you show any cares about racism

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:30

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

quote:

@RichardDawkins 6h
I have just come across a Christian who DEFINES Christianity as EXCLUDING Catholics. Is he an outlier, or is this a known weirdness?

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:30

V. Illych L.: Apr 11, 2008; ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Sharkie posted:

ok, that actually sounds like how "gay" or "human being" is used in the US, though thankfully people have been pushing back against it and using those words in that sense definitely marks you as a lovely and immature person, at least in many places. And in fact that use of "jew" is also going on in the US, it's just that I think if you scratch off the paint it's just common everyday antisemitism (or homophobia) underneath. Though of course I'm talking about my US perspective of how it's used in the US.

i am confident that this is not only a Thing in my country, and it is absolutely actual antisemitism with a couple of layers of paint on it, i just heard this mode of communication referred to as "hyperirony" at one point and liked the phrase

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:31

Randler: Jan 3, 2013; ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Disinterested posted:

Pomo antisemitism is talking really admiringly about how the rich old white men control finance and the media

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:32

Regarde Aduck: Oct 19, 2012; c l o u d k i t t e n; Grimey Drawer

Luigi Thirty posted:

if that's hyperirony then what is goonfleet's obsession with the Jews

Most of goonfleet are genuinely unpleasant people who are most likely true anti-Semites.

That's an easy one.

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:32

Disinterested: Jun 29, 2011; You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

goonfleet is a bunch of white fat guys going to a halloween party dressed up the kkk who find out one of them already had the outfit and giving him a wedgie

then they all go to the party together anyway and yell friend of the family all night

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:34

Randler: Jan 3, 2013; ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Yesterday I got asked in CS:GO if I was a Jew by a pleasant individual called Goebbels.

Much like his namesake he was a whiny fat crybaby, who was very sad that I couldn't hit anything at all when and he somehow died as a result.

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:34

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

Regarde Aduck posted:

Most of goonfleet are genuinely unpleasant people who are most likely true anti-Semites.

That's an easy one.

the guy in charge of the division that blows up publord freighters in highsec drops N bombs like it's nobody's business

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:34

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

Raskolnikov38 posted:

remember, gun supporters aren't mentally ill!

Haha jesus

the gendarmerie shows up OH poo poo they're using magazines not clips

we thought they were using garands instead of AKs so we brought the wrong weapons!

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:36

Disinterested: Jun 29, 2011; You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

mittani did try to undergo some sort of goon etiquette improvement but the net result of it was just outlawing 'go make me a sandwich' jokes directed at goonettes

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:36

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

Disinterested posted:

goonfleet is a bunch of white fat guys going to a halloween party dressed up the kkk who find out one of them already had the outfit and giving him a wedgie

then they all go to the party together anyway and yell friend of the family all night

vilerat wasn't fat

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:36

V. Illych L.: Apr 11, 2008; ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

imo politeness is underrated

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:37

Disinterested: Jun 29, 2011; You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

SedanChair posted:

vilerat wasn't fat

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:37

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

Disinterested posted:

mittani did try to undergo some sort of goon etiquette improvement but the net result of it was just outlawing 'go make me a sandwich' jokes directed at goonettes

they gave up, also because the guy in charge of that doesn't tolerate misogyny but drops N bombs every 30 seconds

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:37

Randler: Jan 3, 2013; ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

SedanChair posted:

vilerat wasn't fat

He's talking about his EVE playing younger self. :ssh:

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:37

Badger of Basra: Jul 26, 2007

Disinterested posted:

goonfleet is a bunch of white fat guys going to a halloween party dressed up the kkk who find out one of them already had the outfit and giving him a wedgie

then they all go to the party together anyway and yell friend of the family all night

i didn't know vlad was friends with all of goonfleet

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:38

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

V. Illych L. posted:

imo politeness is underrated

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:38

Randler: Jan 3, 2013; ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Greeks did 13/11.

Can't wait for Buttery Pastry and the other Europol fucks to spin that into being Germany's fault somehow because austerity. :allears:

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:39

My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

V. Illych L. posted:

imo politeness is underrated

I disagree; politeness is overrated. Far better to be honest with your intention.

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:39

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

Literally The Worst posted:

i am free at least of my unjust imprisonment at the hands of the ponytail AA

C'est m�me juste le contraire

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:40

ass struggle: Dec 25, 2012; by Athanatos

This was not a terror attack tonight this was the beginning of World War 3.
The Arch Duke Ferdinand moment was indeed the cart vendor in Tunisia. He lit the fuse that sparked the up risings in the Middle East
--which led to a collapse of
Libya
--which led to a refugee crisis in Italy, Spain and France.
--which led to the US arming the wrong people in Syria by running guns through Benghazi
--which led to the collapse of Syria and the creation of Isis.
--Which in turn led to the refugee crisis in Europe.
--which led to the first shots tonight in World War Three.
It may not be declared or seen as such for quite some time but make no mistake this is the beginning.
The refugee crisis will when history is written be seen as a Trojan horse invasion by Islamists in Europe. It was aided by the UN, the EU and socialists world wide.
This is a final fulfillment of the chalkboard: "a caliphate will be established and the chaos will spread across the Middle East. Then the chaos will spread to Europe where the socialist, anarchists and Islamists will work together to destabilize Europe and the western world."
Remember, 3 years ago all of the so called experts said that this was nuts. It has all just happened.
What does this lead to now?
A fulfillment of the warning that the rise of hard line communists and fascists will rise with the same hatred not seen since the 1930s in Europe.
But how about here?
As I have been saying for the last few months prepare for three things over the next 18 months.
2 of them have begun to happen this week in France and our universities. Significant impact of the last two make the first happen with total surety.
1. Economic instability (2008+)
2. Islamic instability (9.11+)
3. Domestic Instability (Ferguson /Baltimore +)
What happened in Paris may be the beginning of a much larger movement. Which could spread globally. It is only a matter of time.
The events this week on university campus' will spread and join with civil unrest in cities across the nation. It MAY center around the Democratic convention in Philadelphia.
Pray for our nation.
Pray that the eyes of those who are blind will see, that our hearts will not fail us and that the mouths of our churches are opened.
‪#‎paris‬
‪#‎parisattacks‬
‪#‎pray4paris‬

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:41

V. Illych L.: Apr 11, 2008; ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Badger of Basra posted:

i didn't know vlad was friends with all of goonfleet

that guy, happily, ended up changing his mind about it

i think he took it up with his girlfriend and she shot it down

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:41

Gin and Juche: Apr 3, 2008; The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Debating whether or not head to a bar to watch the USC Florida game.

I'm not sure I want to pay money to see USC demolished since I'll already be seeing that Thanksgiving weekend.

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:46

BI NOW GAY LATER: Jan 17, 2008; So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

sparatuvs posted:

This was not a terror attack tonight this was the beginning of World War 3.
The Arch Duke Ferdinand moment was indeed the cart vendor in Tunisia. He lit the fuse that sparked the up risings in the Middle East
--which led to a collapse of
Libya
--which led to a refugee crisis in Italy, Spain and France.
--which led to the US arming the wrong people in Syria by running guns through Benghazi
--which led to the collapse of Syria and the creation of Isis.
--Which in turn led to the refugee crisis in Europe.
--which led to the first shots tonight in World War Three.
It may not be declared or seen as such for quite some time but make no mistake this is the beginning.
The refugee crisis will when history is written be seen as a Trojan horse invasion by Islamists in Europe. It was aided by the UN, the EU and socialists world wide.
This is a final fulfillment of the chalkboard: "a caliphate will be established and the chaos will spread across the Middle East. Then the chaos will spread to Europe where the socialist, anarchists and Islamists will work together to destabilize Europe and the western world."
Remember, 3 years ago all of the so called experts said that this was nuts. It has all just happened.
What does this lead to now?
A fulfillment of the warning that the rise of hard line communists and fascists will rise with the same hatred not seen since the 1930s in Europe.
But how about here?
As I have been saying for the last few months prepare for three things over the next 18 months.
2 of them have begun to happen this week in France and our universities. Significant impact of the last two make the first happen with total surety.
1. Economic instability (2008+)
2. Islamic instability (9.11+)
3. Domestic Instability (Ferguson /Baltimore +)
What happened in Paris may be the beginning of a much larger movement. Which could spread globally. It is only a matter of time.
The events this week on university campus' will spread and join with civil unrest in cities across the nation. It MAY center around the Democratic convention in Philadelphia.
Pray for our nation.
Pray that the eyes of those who are blind will see, that our hearts will not fail us and that the mouths of our churches are opened.
‪#‎paris‬
‪#‎parisattacks‬
‪#‎pray4paris‬

please source your le jackal and boon quotes

# ? Nov 14, 2015 17:46

Sharkie: Feb 4, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

if we're not careful fascists may rise, now let me tell you how socialists have colluded with foreigners to bring down our way of life.

V. Illych L. posted:

i am confident that this is not only a Thing in my country, and it is absolutely actual antisemitism with a couple of layers of paint on it, i just heard this mode of communication referred to as "hyperirony" at one point and liked the phrase

yeah, we're in agreement, i too thought the phrase was interesting which is why i asked about it. sorry if i seemed antagonistic, i didn't mean to be, i'm just not in a good mood this morning apparently.

Sharkie fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Nov 14, 2015

# ? Nov 14, 2015 18:02