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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:lmao, why did they include all of Bernie's answer in this clip? Bernie is oddly popular with a part of the Republican base.
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Winkie01 posted:All the reporter idiots I follow on twitter seem to think that the when Hillary said she is a child of the 60's or some poo poo is the biggest mistake and Rubio or Cruz will use that against her in the General. Did I miss hear it or what she said not a big deal? Then again these people keep telling me Rubio is the front runner yet never appears in the lead. Bernie not talking about all the stuff he did in the 60s probably helps him since those that like him know about it and it lets others not know
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AlternateNu posted:Holy poo poo, Hillary's campaign manager's name is "Mook"? Seriously? loving LOL He was formerly Obama's campaign manager for Nevada and managed to get more delegates for Obama out of that state in 2008 even though Clinton won the vote.
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Bad Caller posted:I'm honestly worried a Republican will win just because of so many of the Democratic base not being all that for Hillary I had a decently sized effortpost about this and the answer was that the portion of voters who won't vote for hillary despite winning the nomination is too small
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SirKibbles posted:Bernie is oddly popular with a part of the Republican base. He's anti-establishment, something libertarians froth at even if they hate him on everything else
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Bad Caller posted:I'm honestly worried a Republican will win just because of so many of the Democratic base not being all that for Hillary Clinton is more liked by Democratic voters than any other candidate for any party: 83% favorable impression, 47% strongly favorable. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/13/poll-hillary-clintons-image-among-democrats-much-stronger-than-bernie-sanderss/ quote:Fully 83 percent of Democrats have a favorable impression of Clinton[/b], compared with 54 percent for Sanders. And despite Sanders's ability to energize the Democratic base -- as shown by huge crowds turning out to see him -- Clinton's edge is almost as large on intensity; 47 percent see Clinton in a "strongly favorable" light, compared with 22 percent for Sanders. So while more than half of Democrats who like Clinton feel strongly, less than half of those who like Sanders feel that way.
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I think Clinton is intentionally restraining herself because she knows that she will be the nominee and doesn't want to damage her credibility in the general election. She doesn't need grand idealism to win the nomination and is better suited my maintaining realistic expectations. The $12.00 answer is one such example of this. It is weird within the context of the Democratic Primary, and she took flak from it from both her opponents, but it makes sense as a response in a general election. The Republicans have been attacking the living wage since the cycle began. It is going to be a little more difficult to argue that a $12.00 wage is radical socialism. Her responses on economic policy were weak, but not exceptionally so. Bernie performed poorly tonight. He was hampered by the early focus on foreign policy and frequently got sidelined by O'Malley, of all people. He was much stronger on economic policy than Clinton, but I am afraid that his attacks on her are going to harm is favorability rating. There were several points throughout the debate, including his comment on Baltimore, where Sanders came off as aggressive and petty. Sanders is very good at harnessing populist anger, but seems ill-suited at personal attacks. I think this debate will harm his standing. O'Malley was the surprise for the night, if only because expectations for him were already so low. He was knowledgeable and articulate and provided a nice counter to Bernie and Clinton. If it weren't for his constant giddiness and interruptions, I would say that he even looked presidential. O'Malley was probably the winner this evening and will improve in the polls. He has no chance at the nomination, but he does look like a more credible politician. Otherwise, CBS and the moderators were the winners. That was a really phenomenal showing by the network. Let's hope they do just as well for the Republican debate. (They won't.) QuoProQuid has issued a correction as of 05:18 on Nov 15, 2015 |
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SirKibbles posted:Bernie is oddly popular with a part of the Republican base. converting conservative Christians into socialists is his magic technique
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Winkie01 posted:All the reporter idiots I follow on twitter seem to think that the when Hillary said she is a child of the 60's or some poo poo is the biggest mistake and Rubio or Cruz will use that against her in the General. Did I miss hear it or what she said not a big deal? Then again these people keep telling me Rubio is the front runner yet never appears in the lead. its kind of funny that she brought that up considering she was a goldwater girl back in the day, but uhhh honestly the bizarre 9/11 digression she went on to explain he wallstreet connects was worse
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paranoid randroid posted:also goddamn youre loving stupid holy poo poo
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Logikv9 posted:I had a decently sized effortpost about this and the answer was that the portion of voters who won't vote for hillary despite winning the nomination is too small Maybe I'm just being overly worried about nothing, then. Hillary can win even if the youth vote doesn't turn out for her, Bernie would probably just have a large landslide if they did in the general since the Hillary supporters would still probably vote for the bernster
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Bad Caller posted:I'm honestly worried a Republican will win just because of so many of the Democratic base not being all that for Hillary Trump running on anti-immigration while calling out Hillary on her Wall Street donors should be enough to win
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QuoProQuid posted:I think Clinton is intentionally restraining herself because she knows that she will be the nominee and doesn't want to damage her credibility in the general election. She doesn't need grand idealism to win the nomination and is better suited my maintaining realistic expectations. The $12.00 answer is one such example of this. It is weird within the context of the Democratic Primary, and she took flak from it from both her opponents, but it makes sense as a response in a general election. The Republicans have been attacking the living wage since the cycle began. It is going to be a little more difficult to argue that a $12.00 wage is radical socialism. Her responses on economic policy were weak, but not exceptionally so. Isn't $15.00 what the DNC supports though as well? Or was someone just bullshitting earlier in the thread and my memory is wrong.
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Bad Caller posted:I'm honestly worried a Republican will win just because of so many of the Democratic base not being all that for Hillary that's just the nature of the current democratic coalition, it's got the high-apathy high-cynicism groups and that always gives republicans an advantage obviously it's easy to find examples of people who will be happy to hand the white house to republicans rather than vote for hillary but they've always been there and while there's a non-zero amount of them i think they're vastly overrepresented in the online nerd demographic and outside of that and a handful of other groups this primary has really not been very bitter at all but the problem you identify will be real until the next time the two parties realign
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Logikv9 posted:I had a decently sized effortpost about this and the answer was that the portion of voters who won't vote for hillary despite winning the nomination is too small Link?
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Bad Caller posted:Isn't $15.00 what the DNC supports though as well? Or was someone just bullshitting earlier in the thread and my memory is wrong. DNC voted in one of their meetings a month or two back to support $15 EDIT: http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/democrats-make-a-15-national-minimum-wage-an-establishment-p
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Joementum posted:The first clip the RNC highlights: Hillary saying 9/11 is why she gets Wall Street donations. Women, a verb, and 9/11.
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Bad Caller posted:Isn't $15.00 what the DNC supports though as well? Or was someone just bullshitting earlier in the thread and my memory is wrong. Yes, the DNC officially adopted $15. Senate Democrats have proposed a bill at $12.
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SirKibbles posted:Bernie is oddly popular with a part of the Republican base. old, white, crotchety
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BeOSPOS posted:So who won tonight? 1. O'Malley 2. CBS 3. Twitter in that order
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AlternateNu posted:Holy poo poo, Hillary's campaign manager's name is "Mook"? Seriously? loving LOL It could be Mook Dorkburger and it would still be better than "Mark Penn"
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Bad Caller posted:Isn't $15.00 what the DNC supports though as well? Or was someone just bullshitting earlier in the thread and my memory is wrong. She's proposing $12.00 because thats what the MW should be had it been adjusted with inflation accordingly. $15.00 MW is just fantasy land gibberish.
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QuoProQuid posted:I think Clinton is intentionally restraining herself because she knows that she will be the nominee and doesn't want to damage her credibility in the general election. She doesn't need grand idealism to win the nomination and is better suited my maintaining realistic expectations. The $12.00 answer is one such example of this. It is weird within the context of the Democratic Primary, and she took flak from it from both her opponents, but it makes sense as a response in a general election. The Republicans have been attacking the living wage since the cycle began. It is going to be a little more difficult to argue that a $12.00 wage is radical socialism. Her responses on economic policy were weak, but not exceptionally so. Such a good showing for the network that they left enough of an impression on you such that you'd confuse NBC for CBS
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BeOSPOS posted:So who won tonight? CBSN - turns out it's free 24/7 and I just bookmarked it
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Iowa Snow King posted:old, white, crotchety It's libertarians that like him being anti-establishment. It's really odd since literally everything he'd want to do would be regulation.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Such a good showing for the network that they left enough of an impression on you such that you'd confuse NBC for CBS  turns out im an idiotnot sure where nbc came from
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BeOSPOS posted:So who won tonight? This guy: https://twitter.com/AndyGrewal <-----
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Immortan posted:She's proposing $12.00 because thats what the MW should be had it been adjusted with inflation accordingly. You have to account for more than just inflation with wages though since life today has become more expensive due to technology becoming so big Didn't have to pay for fancy computers in the 1950s
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Immortan posted:$15.00 MW is just fantasy land gibberish. nah
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SirKibbles posted:Bernie is oddly popular with a part of the Republican base. Though at the same time, he's a Jew. So I mean. There's that. Still lots of antisemitism in this world.
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Bad Caller posted:It's libertarians that like him being anti-establishment. Turns out libertarians are idiots.
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QuoProQuid posted:I think Clinton is intentionally restraining herself because she knows that she will be the nominee and doesn't want to damage her credibility in the general election. She doesn't need grand idealism to win the nomination and is better suited my maintaining realistic expectations. The $12.00 answer is one such example of this. It is weird within the context of the Democratic Primary, and she took flak from it from both her opponents, but it makes sense as a response in a general election. The Republicans have been attacking the living wage since the cycle began. It is going to be a little more difficult to argue that a $12.00 wage is radical socialism. Her responses on economic policy were weak, but not exceptionally so. Do you call plane accidents "unfortunate instances of gravity" or are you just really bad at hiding your thinly veiled cynicism?
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a cop posted:Though at the same time, he's a Jew. So I mean. There's that. Still lots of antisemitism in this world. Tech libertarians don't care about religion usually
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we turn now to MAJOR GARRETT in the TWITTER gently caress ROOM to look at the tweet numbers
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Joementum posted:The first clip the RNC highlights: Hillary saying 9/11 is why she gets Wall Street donations. I don't get the outrage "I was Senator and helped the physical area of Wall St. recover from the attacks and they appreciate what I did for them"
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