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So, the Paris attacks really swing this debate in Hillary's favor. Bernie is much less fluid when talking about foreign policy, and Hillary's hawkishness will play pretty well right now. It will definitely be interesting to see if Bernie can find a way to navigates this.
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Nov 14, 2015 15:43
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"CBS Shifts Emphasis of Democratic Debate to Reflect Paris Attacks posted:In the hours after the deadly attacks in Paris, CBS News significantly reworked its plans for the Democratic presidential debate it is hosting here on Saturday night to focus more on issues of terrorism, national security and foreign relations. So foreign policy it is.
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Nov 14, 2015 15:44
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Joementum posted:
I don't think so, brother! 
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Nov 14, 2015 15:44
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A Neurotic Jew posted:So, the Paris attacks really swing this debate in Hillary's favor. Bernie is much less fluid when talking about foreign policy, and Hillary's hawkishness will play pretty well right now. It will definitely be interesting to see if Bernie can find a way to navigates this. Idk all I see is an opportunity to re-introduce ~Benghazi~ and blame her for failing to protect americans.
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Nov 14, 2015 16:07
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Why would they have a debate without Jim "I strangled that gook with his own intestines" Webb?
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Nov 14, 2015 16:18
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I have no doubt that Hillary Clinton personally planned the attacks in Paris to move the debate off the economy. It will be interesting to see how it goes. I'll have to watch it on YouTube, though since it's on a god damned Saturday night and I have plans.
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Nov 14, 2015 16:43
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dr_rat posted:The CBS News team immediately shifted gears and reformulated questions to make them more directly related to the attacks. "What do yesterday's terror attacks reveal about how Black Lives Matter?" "In light of the attacks in Paris, what do you think of Secretary Clinton's decision to use a private email server?" "Governor O'Malley, how do you plan to use the Paris situation to expand your support base beyond the eleven Americans who know who the hell you are?"
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Nov 14, 2015 16:46
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If Bernie hasn't improved from the last debate we might as well end the primary now and save money. But seriously Hilary's hawish stances a day after a major terrorist attack on an ally will probably give her a major boost.
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Nov 14, 2015 16:50
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Anal Papist posted:Why would they have a debate without Jim "I strangled that gook with his own intestines" Webb? He is no longer running for the Democratic nomination, though he says he's still running for President, maybe.
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Nov 14, 2015 17:04
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Why are they having this on a Saturday
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Nov 14, 2015 17:32
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This definitely feels like it would make or break Sanders (probably the latter). Bye bye Bernie. 
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Nov 14, 2015 17:32
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Yea if this is gonna be focused on foreign policy Bernie's gonna look real bad, if he gets stomped out two debates in a row that's not gonna be good for him.
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Nov 14, 2015 17:53
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Absurd Alhazred posted:This definitely feels like it would make or break Sanders (probably the latter). Bye bye Bernie. Serious expecting Clinton to go back to her pre- Obama stances on foreign policy after Bernie leaves if he doesn't do better. He's barely lightly touching her from the left, let alone pushing her to the left with some of these poll numbers.
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Nov 14, 2015 17:56
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That'd be really stupid to do though? What's with people pretending Clinton is a hair's trigger away from ripping off her human mask and revealing she's actually Hitler's reptilian clone while cackling madly?
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Nov 14, 2015 17:57
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Asking the candidates to debate about the Paris attacks before they have all the information about those attacks creates a big problem for their campaigns.
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Nov 14, 2015 17:59
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Joementum posted:Asking the candidates to debate about the Paris attacks before they have all the information about those attacks creates a big problem for their campaigns. It's good preparation for one aspect of being the President, though.
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Nov 14, 2015 18:01
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I doubt anyone's going to give a solid answer beyond shifting it into a more broad topic of 'yea there are people out there who probably want to murder most of us in the west, here's my plan to keep that from being a thing' but Bernie is real bad at talking foreign policy even in the nebulous sense. It's not good for either campaign but it's especially not good for his.
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Nov 14, 2015 18:03
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Tatum Girlparts posted:That'd be really stupid to do though? Whether you want to admit it or not Hilary changes her positions during primaries or elections based on where she thinks the wind blows, not calling her inhuman it's good politics. I don't think she's as far left as she has been presenting herself in the primary but she needed to do that to not get ganked by Bernie. If Bernie flames out early that means his positions and by extension his base doesn't have as much support meaning she can go back to her actual position which is basically Obama's current one but a little more aggressive. If you don't like how Obama handles some things right now this might make you sad that Bernie just hosed it up this early As and example of what I mean by changing positions so you understand it's not some flip floper argument. Her and Obama's positions on gay marriage and how they evolved and shut up about the sanctity of marriage when it got popular. Basically Hillary like Obama is a make me do it candidate and I do not like those types of candidates usually hence my annoyance. SirKibbles has issued a correction as of 18:18 on Nov 14, 2015 |
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Nov 14, 2015 18:13
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AndNowMax posted:Why are they having this on a Saturday Plenty of primary debates in the past few election cycles have been held on saturdays. In fact, the most watched debate of the 2008 primary was held on a Saturday!
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Nov 14, 2015 18:24
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Nintendo Kid posted:Plenty of primary debates in the past few election cycles have been held on saturdays. In fact, the most watched debate of the 2008 primary was held on a Saturday! Wasn't there some poster here or in D&D before this subforum saying the debates being on saturday was a conspiracy by Clinton and DWS to rob poor Bernie?
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Nov 14, 2015 18:40
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Wasn't there some poster here or in D&D before this subforum saying the debates being on saturday was a conspiracy by Clinton and DWS to rob poor Bernie? No that was when they found out that a lot of the debates happened the same day or near football games. To be fair that does favor Hillary but that's not because of some conspiracy she's the front runner. It does however show that Debbie still sucks at her job and apparently no one outside of Obama (publicly at least) wants to tell her to get it together. SirKibbles has issued a correction as of 18:46 on Nov 14, 2015 |
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Nov 14, 2015 18:43
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AndNowMax posted:Why are they having this on a Saturday Old people got nothing better to do.
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Nov 14, 2015 19:19
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SirKibbles posted:No that was when they found out that a lot of the debates happened the same day or near football games. To be fair that does favor Hillary but that's not because of some conspiracy she's the front runner. It does however show that Debbie still sucks at her job and apparently no one outside of Obama (publicly at least) wants to tell her to get it together. It doesn't show that she sucks at her job in the least. As if the glories of 9 PM on a Wednesday would mean better viewership. 
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Nov 14, 2015 19:24
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Joementum posted:Asking the candidates to debate about the Paris attacks before they have all the information about those attacks creates a big problem for their campaigns. Will Bernie Sanders have the courage to say "I don't know." on stage tonight? 
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Nov 14, 2015 19:40
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Nintendo Kid posted:It doesn't show that she sucks at her job in the least. As if the glories of 9 PM on a Wednesday would mean better viewership. Thankfully the DNC scheduled a terrorist attack last night to boost ratings
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Nov 14, 2015 19:48
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A Neurotic Jew posted:So, the Paris attacks really swing this debate in Hillary's favor. Bernie is much less fluid when talking about foreign policy, and Hillary's hawkishness will play pretty well right now. It will definitely be interesting to see if Bernie can find a way to navigates this. mike12345 posted:Idk all I see is an opportunity to re-introduce ~Benghazi~ and blame her for failing to protect americans.
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Nov 14, 2015 19:49
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fade5 posted:Democrats live in reality though, If that were true, Bernie Sanders wouldn't be debating foreign policy at a Democratic debate.
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Nov 14, 2015 19:52
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AndNowMax posted:Why are they having this on a Saturday Opening day of firearm deer season in Michigan is tomorrow. How can I bag a buck tomorrow morning if I'm hungover from watching a debate? Couldn't they do this on a week night like civilized people? A Neurotic Jew posted:So, the Paris attacks really swing this debate in Hillary's favor. Bernie is much less fluid when talking about foreign policy, and Hillary's hawkishness will play pretty well right now. It will definitely be interesting to see if Bernie can find a way to navigates this. The Bernie Sanders group on FB already frothing with rage at the suggestion that lying hypocritical woman could come close to Bernie Sanders on FP, when he's always right about everything.
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Nov 14, 2015 19:55
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:The Bernie Sanders group on FB already frothing with rage at the suggestion that lying hypocritical woman could come close to Bernie Sanders on FP, when he's always right about everything. Bernie brought up last debate that he voted for Kosovo and Afghanistan so it's not like it's something he's changed his mind on, and I expect that he'll bring them up again and that he continues to support airstrikes against ISIL in today's debate.
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Nov 14, 2015 20:31
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How would it play to say that Hillary helped create ISIS with her Iraq war vote?
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Nov 14, 2015 20:37
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Jewel Repetition posted:How would it play to say that Hillary helped create ISIS with her Iraq war vote? It would be the smart thing to do. Attack Hillary for Obama's failures and portray your foreign policy as the anti-Obama doctrine.
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Nov 14, 2015 21:03
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Since Baby Hitler is now the frontrunner in both the Republican and the Democratic race, is it still too soon to consider him inevitable?
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Nov 14, 2015 21:14
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Ibogaine posted:Since Baby Hitler is now the frontrunner in both the Republican and the Democratic race, is it still too soon to consider him inevitable? I think it's safe to say that all of the candidates are literally Baby Hitler.
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Nov 14, 2015 21:19
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I think its safe to say that Bernie Sanders is the only candidate who wouldn't abort Baby Hitler.
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Nov 14, 2015 21:20
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My Imaginary GF posted:It would be the smart thing to do. Attack Hillary for Obama's failures and portray your foreign policy as the anti-Obama doctrine. Yes, portray yourself as anti-Obama when Obama is very popular with the party. Not the best political move. (though personally, I think Obama has been rather meh at foreign policy)
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Nov 14, 2015 21:22
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fade5 posted:Can you ask them about Afghanistan and Kosovo, I'm curious how they'll respond. Thank you for reminding me of that, I have a response to this now. 
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Nov 14, 2015 21:23
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Mrit posted:Yes, portray yourself as anti-Obama when Obama is very popular with the party. Not the best political move. (though personally, I think Obama has been rather meh at foreign policy) Obama's foreign policy hasn't been popular within the party at all. Everyone disagrees with Obama on forpol; Clinton the most. Attacking Clinton as the root of Obama's foreign policy failures is a double-whammy, since Clinton was ignored by Obama on forpol and since those policies have so clearly failed in the eyes of the American public. HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Thank you for reminding me of that, I have a response to this now. What's in that image is the line that'll be used against Clinton 'til E-day. Without Biden in the race, Obama's ForPol is her fault. Far better for Sanders to own the attack than for Trump.
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Nov 14, 2015 21:28
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How openly will Hillary lust for Muslim death? Or will she wink and nod and hold up her hands in a gesture of apparent inevitability?
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Nov 14, 2015 21:40
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Absurd Alhazred posted:It's good preparation for one aspect of being the President, though. It's 3 am. Who do you want working on last minute debate prep?
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