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Belzac posted:Diadem still sucks, news at 11. People like content that I dislike?! Blasphemy! Yoship should only be implementing the content I want in the way I want it.
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Nov 15, 2015 06:49
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Yes, that is precisely what he said. Thanks for sharing your input.
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Nov 15, 2015 06:59
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:How common is it for healers to just...ignore cleric stance? I play mostly healer, so I don't really see others until 8-man content when a lot have their poo poo together. But with the recent increase of exp from MSDR I've been doing that, and seeing a ton of healers who just sit there and refuse to ever use cleric stance or offensive spells, even in comically easy content like castrum/prae, preferring to just overheal tiny slivers of damage. Is this common all through leveling? Because if so I'm sorry. Common through leveling? Man, it's common at level cap.
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Nov 15, 2015 07:03
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Belzac posted:Diadem still sucks, news at 11. Why do you even still play this game?
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Nov 15, 2015 07:30
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Why do you keep posting that? Are you so brain washed that you can only enjoy things that you have 0 complaints with? I enjoy this game so IT MUST BE PERFECT!
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Nov 15, 2015 07:31
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I played the FFXI crossover event tonight and it was super cute but since I haven't ever played XI it made basically no sense to me. Is there any lore context FFXIV-only dummies like me should know?
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Nov 15, 2015 08:13
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Knowing more about FFXI will not improve your life in any possible way.
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Nov 15, 2015 08:15
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Of course it's possible to enjoy something and have complaints and criticisms about it. But you don't exactly come across as enjoying it if you have almost nothing but complaints and criticisms to say. (Caring about it, sure, since you don't complain if you're apathetic. But not necessarily enjoying it.) If you really do enjoy the game, then your posting habits aren't exactly giving a fair representation of your overall opinion, so it's not that unreasonable for your audience to be confused. Eej posted:Knowing more about FFXI will not improve your life in any possible way. FFXI's gameplay has well-deserved notoriety, but it had an awful lot of good story locked behind that gameplay.
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Nov 15, 2015 08:21
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Ok here's a fun thing about Diadem. It's really fun to sit on the main farming island with a great group and spawn 8+ nms in in lockout while the other groups in your alliance complain about not getting credit.
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Nov 15, 2015 08:26
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Diadem lets you relive FF6 now and then which is pretty cool.
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Nov 15, 2015 08:35
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Belzac posted:Ok here's a fun thing about Diadem. It's really fun to sit on the main farming island with a great group and spawn 8+ nms in in lockout while the other groups in your alliance complain about not getting credit. You're filled with so much anger.
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Nov 15, 2015 08:40
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No, it's called Schadenfreude, not anger. I'm full of Schadenfreude.
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Nov 15, 2015 08:41
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Empress Theonora posted:I played the FFXI crossover event tonight and it was super cute but since I haven't ever played XI it made basically no sense to me. Is there any lore context FFXIV-only dummies like me should know? It's about the new waifu that got introduced in rhapsodies of vanadiel (2015 content) that hijacks the entire plot of the game by making it the most important
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Nov 15, 2015 08:44
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I personally like Diadem because I don't get mad over numbers on gear in video games and it lets me make money while making pubbies rage at the same time.
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Nov 15, 2015 08:51
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Diadem is a giant pile of poo poo in multiple ways. It is everything that has ever been wrong with mmo's all at the same time. I am personally affronted that we got it instead of a 3rd dungeon for expert roulette. It's cool some of you like it I guess, at least then it doesn't feel like it was entirely wasted. I just hope you are still plugging away at it in 3 months. Or maybe I don't so they never add to the system, I am unsure.
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Nov 15, 2015 09:11
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I'm hoping Diadem is just a big old smack to the head of people longing for archaic MMO systems and there is no future support for it. I think I can muster finding it enjoyable with 7 friends every once and a while but I'm not lining up to queue for it every two hours.
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Nov 15, 2015 09:17
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3.1 MSQ question, did I miss it, or did they never say what happened that that priest after he threw the kid off the church? If not, than I'm just going to assume that my character stabbed the gently caress outta him as soon as he did that
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Nov 15, 2015 09:17
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Diadem is not poo poo because of the gear, the gear is likely going to be irrevelant next patch because a) whatever story mode Alexander2 is will likely drop 220 or even 230 gear and b) new crafted gear with proper melds will likely exceed all but the best rolled Diadem gear. Diadem is loving AWFUL if you want to get anything combat related done at a decent pace, you sit in one spot pressing 1-2-3, occasionally rolling greed on disappointing items. And even if you choose not go to the zerg and "chill with my pals", there's nothing engaging about fighting the HP sponges that are the trash in the area only to eventually, after much toil, spawn a single NM that you likely couldn't even 8 man before the lock out finishes. It's lazy, it's boring, it's not enjoyable content. There are dozens of easy and simple fixes to make Diadem more enjoyable that don't involve messing with whatever SE thinks the item progression should be like.
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Nov 15, 2015 09:20
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Chyea posted:Diadem is not poo poo because of the gear, the gear is likely going to be irrevelant next patch because a) whatever story mode Alexander2 is will likely drop 220 or even 230 gear and b) new crafted gear with proper melds will likely exceed all but the best rolled Diadem gear. No you don't understand, it's cause you're insecure about your gear. Epic pubbie troll!
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Nov 15, 2015 09:22
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It sucks that the most efficient way to Diadem is to get 8 raid buddies and sit on an island with 40 pubbies and mash buttons at generic monsters. It is fun to join a goonsquad of three or so alliances of serious and unserious players and do your own thing, avoiding the nightmare hellzone of pub groups NM farming. Punch some monsters, shoot the poo poo for 90 minutes, do it again a few days later. You won't get showered in gear though.
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Nov 15, 2015 09:26
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I really hope HW relics don't involve the diadem, but I'm almost certain they will.
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Nov 15, 2015 09:32
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Rhonne posted:3.1 MSQ question, did I miss it, or did they never say what happened that that priest after he threw the kid off the church? If not, than I'm just going to assume that my character stabbed the gently caress outta him as soon as he did that They don't outright state it but I think you can pretty solidly assume he got the poo poo beaten out of him and he got arrested, in some order.
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Nov 15, 2015 09:34
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I got some pretty decent ilvl 180 tank gear that had the Armor of Light glamoured to it. That makes Diadem worth it.
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Nov 15, 2015 10:08
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Failboattootoot posted:I am personally affronted that we got it instead of a 3rd dungeon for expert roulette. I don't think that has anything to do with it. I'm pretty sure they said ouright creating three new dungeons took too many resources and is not going to be happening anymore period.
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Nov 15, 2015 10:16
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Volt Catfish posted:I don't think that has anything to do with it. I'm pretty sure they said ouright creating three new dungeons took too many resources and is not going to be happening anymore period. What they specifically said was that they were cutting the 3rd dungeon in favor of adding other additional types of content. Like Verminion and Diadem I would assume, but since I don't work on the game I'm just guessing.
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Nov 15, 2015 10:19
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Empress Theonora posted:I played the FFXI crossover event tonight and it was super cute but since I haven't ever played XI it made basically no sense to me. Is there any lore context FFXIV-only dummies like me should know? Like Iroha says, the classic way of earning EXP in FFXI was finding a beach and killing crabs for hours. See also the Smallshell minion description. The weird Roegadyn-looking guy that shows up in the flashback is the Shadow Lord, end boss of the main game's story. The young Elezen-like is Prishe, the protagonist of Chains of Promathia. Serket in FFXI was one of the Notorious Monsters that was heavily camped for its unique drops. The final cutscene with all the screenshots is a best-of compilation of all the notable NPCs across the expansions. The song that plays is Memoro de la Ŝtono, the main theme of FFXI. It also exists in-world as a plot point in the Chains of Promathia expansion, where it's a prophetic song about the coming of the Warriors of the Crystal.
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Nov 15, 2015 10:29
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Specifically the variant of the first ode of memoro de la stono is the one that's heard in the vanilla content: Recollection edit: may as well link the distant worlds version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9SQzeALyH0 Reco fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Nov 15, 2015 |
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Nov 15, 2015 10:32
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Velthice posted:me, myself. come at me You're supposed to respond with a link to your own post, god.
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Nov 15, 2015 10:53
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The Chairman posted:Like Iroha says, the classic way of earning EXP in FFXI was finding a beach and killing crabs for hours. See also the Smallshell minion description. Thanks! That's exactly the kind of stuff I was wondering about.
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Nov 15, 2015 11:03
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I just finished the 3.1 story and noticed that they mistakenly left rewritten dialogue in one of Alphinaud's text boxes. 
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Nov 15, 2015 11:07
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Hommando posted:I just finished the 3.1 story and noticed that they mistakenly left rewritten dialogue in one of Alphinaud's text boxes. Koji's busting long hours to meet his pray quota each patch.
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Nov 15, 2015 11:09
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Empress Theonora posted:Thanks! That's exactly the kind of stuff I was wondering about. The thing with crabs is because they had pretty high defense so they were good for leveling up your weapon proficiency which is extremely vital and got points based on a % chance on every attack i don't actually know if they hit less hard compared to other mobs or anything I never played ffxi proper during the so-called glory days, i only played a lot of it way later so i could be talking entirely out of my rear end here Reco fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Nov 15, 2015 |
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Nov 15, 2015 11:17
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Hivac posted:The thing with crabs is because they had pretty high defense so they were good for leveling up your weapon proficiency which is extremely vital and got points based on a % chance on every attack All FFXI enemies had a job, even animals like crabs. Most animals were a generic WAR-type with both average attack and defense, but crabs were PLD-type with high defense but low attack, which made taking on high-level ones much safer. They also had some pretty gentle special attacks compared to other enemies.
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Nov 15, 2015 11:57
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Diadem with a gathering party is the way to go. You get to just chill out and casually collect token items/treasure chests (bronze ones are trash, but silver ones are red scrip items) that poop out of your nodes while shooting the poo poo with the other gatherers.
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Nov 15, 2015 12:08
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The Chairman posted:All FFXI enemies had a job, even animals like crabs. Most animals were a generic WAR-type with both average attack and defense, but crabs were PLD-type with high defense but low attack, which made taking on high-level ones much safer. They also had some pretty gentle special attacks compared to other enemies. WAR types had double attack which was a fun surprise back when i was running solo at low level back in abyssea Don't get me started on MNK type enemies, they piss me off
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Nov 15, 2015 12:15
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Rhonne posted:3.1 MSQ question, did I miss it, or did they never say what happened that that priest after he threw the kid off the church? If not, than I'm just going to assume that my character stabbed the gently caress outta him as soon as he did that Well, let's just say there wasn't a second dragon for him
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Nov 15, 2015 16:51
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I'm feeling twinges of wanting to resub, but the reason I left is that I experienced all the 3.0 story, there were no more zones to explore, and the new crafting and gathering scrip system felt even more like a mobile game time sink than it did in 2.X. I also wasn't particularly enthused for either the setting or the loot system of Alexander, so raiding became pretty stale. I'm going to bet not much about the reason I took a break has changed with 3.1? I wish that the end game was more about setting out with your guild buddies to control player-controlled spaces, and that crafting and gathering was bent towards that. The airship stuff felt like a move in that direction, but ended up being pretty underwhelming itself.
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Nov 15, 2015 17:29
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Dr Pepper posted:Uh, yes it can. They announced it could like, pretty early on.
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Nov 15, 2015 17:36
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PhilippAchtel posted:I wish that the end game was more about setting out with your guild buddies to control player-controlled spaces, and that crafting and gathering was bent towards that. The airship stuff felt like a move in that direction, but ended up being pretty underwhelming itself. I don't know if I know a single game is existence that is like that currently.
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PhilippAchtel posted:I'm feeling twinges of wanting to resub, but the reason I left is that I experienced all the 3.0 story, there were no more zones to explore, and the new crafting and gathering scrip system felt even more like a mobile game time sink than it did in 2.X. I also wasn't particularly enthused for either the setting or the loot system of Alexander, so raiding became pretty stale. I'm going to bet not much about the reason I took a break has changed with 3.1? Crafting's gotten a little bit better in this regard but still kind of an annoying trudge. They eased up on the grind of red scrips a bit by making gather scrips more easy to aquire and crafting material rewards tripled in amount; still sort of grindy but not too bad. Probably far more importantly they've added multiple ways to get scrip materials beyond going out and grinding favors, which means that if you really hate that system there are alternatives. Good alternatives? Dunno yet. They added in new 2-star crafting stuff which doesn't need materials pulled from the red scrip clusterfuck but are locked so that only specialists can make them. I sort of see this as a tacit admission that everyone hates the red scrip crafting and they'll just keep things to specialist classes to force the kind of crafter distribution they want. Beyond that whole system, the new dungeons are good and void ark is an excellent setpiece. Thordan EX is difficult but on the whole an incredible fight that I enjoyed way more than anything in Alex. The new MSQ stuff was top-notch, but over in like 90 minutes. Diadem is a thing! That seems like a safe description. Basically: the core of the game hasn't really changed and if that's not doing it for you then 3.1 won't keep you here. That said, there's enough decent stuff that a month re-sub to see most of it will probably not be wasted. Otherwise maybe wait until 3.2?
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