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These border control comments are cracking me up: "Sweden, like a silly high school girl who goes on facebook and announces that her parents are out of town and that she’s having a party, is learning the hard way of the consequences of inviting the world into its home." Sweden is a silly high school girl with The World as her friend, but trouble lurks nearby. Sitcom, the next Jojo or a harem anime? 
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Every week, a new guest from a country somewhere in the world comes to stay in Svea-san's house. Cultural differences inevitably lead to catastrophic, but hilarious, results for the naive young girl. At the end of every episode Svea vows not to let any foreigners into her home, but she never learns! Alternatively, an epic historical drama depicting a group of plucky freedom fighters battling against the Righteous Swedish Empire. From a time when most of Europe suffered under the yoke of the swedes, following international law, expressing concern over the conduct of other states and other atrocities.
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Nov 13, 2015 14:24
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Captain Scandinaiva posted:Alternatively, an epic historical drama depicting a group of plucky freedom fighters battling against the Righteous Swedish Empire. From a time when most of Europe suffered under the yoke of the swedes, following international law, expressing concern over the conduct of other states and other atrocities. I would watch this.
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Nov 13, 2015 14:48
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Xoidanor posted:People tend to forget that LO, despite all its recent failures, is one of the most effective union cooperatives in the world. Coordination and trust is always more effective long-term for getting things done than conflict. Most of their poor decisions (anställningsformer in particular) seemed like necessary and mutually beneficial at the time they were made.
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Nov 13, 2015 15:56
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Fox Cunning posted:Other things we can learn from ancient Rome is that slavery and imperialism are highly profitable endeavors, perhaps a solution to our woes? Well the latter is already practiced in the EU.
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Nov 13, 2015 15:58
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Karpaw posted:...cousin-wife and 8 kids who are probably all inbred retards because you're from a goatfucker culture where marrying your cousin is considered fine and dandy?
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Nov 13, 2015 16:19
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Rutkowski posted:Folding on stuff like bemanningsföretag and individuell lönesättning are two of the most destructive actions for workers in Sweden in modern history. Yes, the bemanningsföretag reform was a terrible decision in hindsight and the unions should have known better. However, its not impossible to see why they (and most of the modern world) got swept up in thinking it was a good idea at the time.
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Captain Scandinaiva posted:Every week, a new guest from a country somewhere in the world comes to stay in Svea-san's house. Cultural differences inevitably lead to catastrophic, but hilarious, results for the naive young girl. At the end of every episode Svea vows not to let any foreigners into her home, but she never learns! Proposal nr 45; Swedish Animation Department (SAD) take notes: Svea är en liten tjej med jättelånga flätor sådär en fjorton år och rätt söt Men så en dag hon möter muslimer och får till vän en underbar katt Hon blir en kämpe, ja en hjältinna Ett öde som hon inte riktigt kan förstå och inte vet hon hur det ska gå En liten tjej med jättelånga flätor sådär en fjorton år och rätt söt som nu får slåss mot ondskans lakejer hur ska det gå? hur ska det gå? I'm going for mass appeal here.
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Xoidanor and others posted:bemanningsföretag It's commonly called a "temp agency" in english by the way.
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http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/dansk-polis-ska-fa-visitera-flyktingar-i-jakt-pa-pengar/quote:Tillströmningen av flyktingar leder till omprövningar i våra nordiska grannländer. Asylpolitiken blir stramare i både Danmark och Norge. I Danmark föreslås bland annat att polisen ska få visitera flyktingar och beslagta värdesaker. Just straight up robbing refugees at gunpoint is one way to make them go away I guess.  Postorder Trollet89 posted:It's commonly called a "temp agency" in english by the way. Bemanningsföretaget Bemanningsföretag Bemanningsföretag
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Xoidanor posted:http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/dansk-polis-ska-fa-visitera-flyktingar-i-jakt-pa-pengar/
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Ligur posted:I think reading them leaves you better off than reading posts from people who implode when faced with things they don't like (even if actually true), or reading posts from people who think Europeans never migrated to the Americas or that Roman history doesn't exist. Tell me about the conquest of the US of A by the Irish and their popery again?
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Xoidanor posted:http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/dansk-polis-ska-fa-visitera-flyktingar-i-jakt-pa-pengar/ quote:Danish police will be allowed to search asylum seekers and their luggage for any cash or valuables that could help pay for their stay in an asylum centre. quote:Items of personal significance, such as wedding rings, will be exempt. Danmark delenda est.
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On a day like this I am happy that Åsa Romson is only "vice" prime minister. Her parents obviously never told her "when you don't have anything smart to say, please be silent".
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Yeah jesus christ, I couldn't believe my loving eyes.
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Cardiac posted:On a day like this I am happy that Åsa Romson is only "vice" prime minister. I never really understood the hate people have for her. But what she wrote was the dumbest thing i've seen in quite a while.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:I never really understood the hate people have for her. You guys need to keep up with the tweets of Danish ministers then. http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/2015-11-14-svinet-til-for-at-blande-ja-kampagne-ind-i-terror-update
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Xoidanor posted:http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/dansk-polis-ska-fa-visitera-flyktingar-i-jakt-pa-pengar/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlTukY9fV9Y
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Romson's tweet was really dumb but the mentality of some people on the right (at least in my Twitter and Facebook feeds) to focus all their attention (and venom) on her and that tweet on a day like this rubs me the wrong way.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:I never really understood the hate people have for her. Well, it is more a case about her being "holier than thou" while actually being a hypocrite. She seems like the person that consider herself as a smart person and always in the right, while being somewhat impervious to critique and probably also causes her stupid comments. She was a part of Attac before the Gothenburg riots, so she have a history of bad decisions. As for the current mess, Wallström haven't proven herself to be that smart either when it comes to commenting it. While I don't hate her, I would find it completly hilarious if Romson got kicked out off her seat as environmental minister before the big meeting in Paris. Anyways, as some reports come in that one of the attackers had a Syrian passport and was registered as arriving in Greece in October, I am predicting that the current immigration crisis is going to take a new turn and Turkey is going to get smacked around for letting IS terrorist through. Especially considering IS released a 21 minute long propaganda video in Swedish yesterday according to Gudmunssson.
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Cardiac posted:Anyways, as some reports come in that one of the attackers had a Syrian passport and was registered as arriving in Greece in October, I am predicting that the current immigration crisis is going to take a new turn and Turkey is going to get smacked around for letting IS terrorist through. As if IRL CK2 powergamer Erdogan gives a gently caress.
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Cardiac posted:Anyways, as some reports come in that one of the attackers had a Syrian passport and was registered as arriving in Greece in October, I am predicting that the current immigration crisis is going to take a new turn and Turkey is going to get smacked around for letting IS terrorist through. Is anyone here in this thread actually surprised at that? A few of them are bound to get through to Europe among the hundreds of thousands of refugees, there isn't anything that you can do about it. If you don't close the external borders of the European Union that is. What worries me more is that some of the attackers are actually from Belgium, so the group was a mix of people from France, Belgium and possibly Syria and Egypt, as far as we can tell at the moment. Considering the fact that they had suicide vests, grenades and automatic rifles, it means a level of organization that is frankly a little bit scary to think about. Even more worryingly, usually after an attack like this the head of states come out and say something along the lines of "let's not jump into any conclusions, stay calm, don't act out your anger". Nothing like this was said by ANY head of state as far as I can tell. I stayed up until 4 AM watching and reading the news, and Hollande had a look of a man who is preparing for war. It looks like the entire political elite of the Western world (and possibly also Russia) underestimated the determination and resources of radical Sunni islamists, who are perfectly happy to kill everyone who is not them, including other muslims. The problem is that no one will view the matter like this in Europe. Decades of "progressive left" labeling any criticism of radical Islam or counter-extremism as islamophobia hasn't helped the matter, either. I think things are going to get very ugly in the coming months.
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OhYeah posted:Even more worryingly, usually after an attack like this the head of states come out and say something along the lines of "let's not jump into any conclusions, stay calm, don't act out your anger". Nothing like this was said by ANY head of state as far as I can tell. I stayed up until 4 AM watching and reading the news, and Hollande had a look of a man who is preparing for war. There are too many dead for anything less to be perceived as acceptable by the electorate. 
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Xoidanor posted:There are too many dead for anything less to be perceived as acceptable by the electorate. Well yes, but that means that the extremists have already twisted our arm and gained an advantage; they've put a leading Western European country in a situation where they are pretty much forced to be aggressive, no other option is even on the table. In other words, pour more fuel into the fire. Since we are not homicidal maniacs, we lose in the long term even if we win some short term battles here and there and they will thrive in this situation. Repeat ad infinitum.
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OhYeah posted:Decades of "progressive left" labeling any criticism of radical Islam or counter-extremism as islamophobia hasn't helped the matter, either. Most people I know on the left are against people labeling all muslims as extremist, not into defending radical islam, this is actually also the case with the people I know on the right (the ones who can think). This is something islamophobes (and racist assholes in general) typically have a hard time with, they then go on to say stupid poo poo like: "People on the left are not against radical islam!!", or "people on the left don't take extremist muslims seriously enough!", or similar moronic statements.
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The left were militant atheists before it was cool. 
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Most people I know on the left are against people labeling all muslims as extremist, not into defending radical islam, this is actually also the case with the people I know on the right (the ones who can think). This is something islamophobes (and racist assholes in general) typically have a hard time with, they then go on to say stupid poo poo like: "People on the left are not against radical islam!!", or "people on the left don't take extremist muslims seriously enough!", or similar moronic statements. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/12/universities-in-britain-and-the-u-s-are-losing-their-moral-compass.html I assume you know who Nawaz is. If you don't you should look him up, he is a former radical and now leads a counter-extremism initiative.
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OhYeah posted:http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/12/universities-in-britain-and-the-u-s-are-losing-their-moral-compass.html I'm assuming your post is supposed to support my point? If not, then you don't understand my point, even though I thought I expressed it very clearly. Also, that link is hilarious in it's child-like bias. Your link posted:but the Kurds aren’t, after all, fashionable Palestinians. So far so typical of today’s mollycoddling university “safe-space” culture. That's a minor point though, it would probably be unreasonable to expect someone so invested, to try an be objective/reasonable about the matter.
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OhYeah posted:http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/12/universities-in-britain-and-the-u-s-are-losing-their-moral-compass.html what does what some british dude says about some hurfing of durf at british universities have to do with scandinavian politics I mean I know you really really want to believe Scandinavia is actually the United Islamic Republic of Scandistan and make everything that goes on here a matter of a discussion of muslims and their alleged collective crimes against humanity, but it's kind of annoying to tell you to shut the gently caress up every page when the rest of us just want to talk about the real world TheFluff fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Nov 15, 2015 |
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TheFluff posted:what does what some british dude says about some hurfing of durf at british universities have to do with scandinavian politics I am talking about the real world.
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In actual Scandinavian news, Søren Espersen, one of the heavyweights in the Danish Peoples Party (the second largest party in Denmark) and the spokesperson on international policy, apparently not only shares the general ideology (national socialism, with ultra-conservative/fascistic connotations) with literal Hitler, but now also seems eager to employ the same tools, today arguing for the need for a 'total war' against the IS controlled part of Syrian, including, when asked directly, bombing women and children, because 'they are part of the system' [if they are in the same area as IS]. http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/df-vi-skal-bombe-civile-i-kampen-mod Glorious Sunday in Scandinavia.
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Revelation 2-13 posted:In actual Scandinavian news, Søren Espersen, one of the heavyweights in the Danish Peoples Party (the second largest party in Denmark) and the spokesperson on international policy, apparently not only shares the general ideology (national socialism, with ultra-conservative/fascistic connotations) with literal Hitler, but now also seems eager to employ the same tools, today arguing for the need for a 'total war' against the IS controlled part of Syrian, including, when asked directly, bombing women and children, because 'they are part of the system' [if they are in the same area as IS]. Sounds like a great plan. We know from history that invading and bombing a Middle-Eastern country works so well and absolutely does not produce a few generations of angry, desperate people who would like to see our entire continent burn. Did they also perhaps say that we should just nuke the entire territory controlled by Daesh? Because you know it's quicker than bombing runs and jet fuel is rather expensive. Who am I kidding, news already broke that US and France have decided to increase air strikes against ISIS.  EDIT: http://mvlehti.net/2015/11/13/onko-tama-tappaja-nyt-suomessa-turvapaikanhakijana-k-18-kuvia/gently caress me if this turns out to be same guy. OhYeah fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Nov 15, 2015 |
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Revelation 2-13 posted:In actual Scandinavian news, Søren Espersen, one of the heavyweights in the Danish Peoples Party (the second largest party in Denmark) and the spokesperson on international policy, apparently not only shares the general ideology (national socialism, with ultra-conservative/fascistic connotations) with literal Hitler, but now also seems eager to employ the same tools, today arguing for the need for a 'total war' against the IS controlled part of Syrian, including, when asked directly, bombing women and children, because 'they are part of the system' [if they are in the same area as IS].
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NSFW that poo poo, jesus christ dude
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Bomb IS med DF.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Bomb IS med DF.
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So following the cultural enrichment France received the other day, I read this interesting piece on IS. It's a good read, like the funny-scary insight that IS fighters are basically larping the Muslim version of Left Behind and the scholar saying that claims about IS being "not Islamic" are PC nonsense (they read the Koran literally, invoke it constantly and let it direct every aspect of their daily lives - their ideology is purestrain Islam as dictated and practiced by the pedo-prophet himself). There's also the bit about how most salafists are not jihadists like IS and don't approve of spreading Islam by the sword, which doesn't mean they are less commited to the establishment of Sharia in a global umma however. They just think it should be done in a more covert and gradual manner (like say, demographic displacement), which shows the naivety of dumb notions like "the refugees [not that most immigrants even qualify for that status] are fleeing IS' terror, of course they want to embrace our post-Enlightenment values like religious and political pluralism."  And then there's this: quote:Choudary said Sharia has been misunderstood because of its incomplete application by regimes such as Saudi Arabia, which does behead murderers and cut off thieves’ hands. “The problem,” he explained, “is that when places like Saudi Arabia just implement the penal code, and don’t provide the social and economic justice of the Sharia—the whole package—they simply engender hatred toward the Sharia.” That whole package, he said, would include free housing, food, and clothing for all, though of course anyone who wished to enrich himself with work could do so. What's "full communism now" in Arabic? It should be the subtitle of this thread.   
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Have we reached peak paranoia? It's like the red scare in here.
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Karpaw posted:So following the cultural enrichment France received the other day, I read this interesting piece on IS. It's a good read, like the funny-scary insight that IS fighters are basically larping the Muslim version of Left Behind and the scholar saying that claims about IS being "not Islamic" are PC nonsense (they read the Koran literally, invoke it constantly and let it direct every aspect of their daily lives - their ideology is purestrain Islam as dictated and practiced by the pedo-prophet himself). There's also the bit about how most salafists are not jihadists like IS and don't approve of spreading Islam by the sword, which doesn't mean they are less commited to the establishment of Sharia in a global umma however. They just think it should be done in a more covert and gradual manner (like say, demographic displacement), which shows the naivety of dumb notions like "the refugees [not that most immigrants even qualify for that status] are fleeing IS' terror, of course they want to embrace our post-Enlightenment values like religious and political pluralism." How are you this boring.
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