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idk fable was about what id expect from someone who does not know how to make a game
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Bloody posted:idk fable was about what id expect from someone who does not know how to make a game he's the only person I know if in the games industry who appears to actually have the job of "ideas guy" and he's terrible at it
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Nov 16, 2015 14:10
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I enjoyed fable in a weird way
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Nov 16, 2015 14:14
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i enjoyed fable when it came out i was also a stupid kid when it came out
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Nov 16, 2015 14:39
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theflyingorc posted:he's the only person I know if in the games industry who appears to actually have the job of "ideas guy" doesn't he just have like one idea and just keeps trying to shoehorn it into various games? "what if your character could do bad things too?! they could like.. look evil and poo poo or something."
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Nov 16, 2015 16:40
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Shifty Pony posted:doesn't he just have like one idea and just keeps trying to shoehorn it into various games? nah, he throws out all sorts of stuff his reputation turned into "he always promises things in his games that he can't deliver", but that's because all of his ideas are stupid and obviously wouldn't work in a game, and if you thought "oh man how cool is it that if you sleep around in this game you can get STDs!" you're a stupid person, how in the world would that possibly make the game more fun
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Nov 16, 2015 18:33
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theflyingorc posted:nah, he throws out all sorts of stuff his mistake is actually making these games instead of making pictures of what may or may not be in the game and crowdfunding $100mil based on that
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Nov 16, 2015 18:47
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early on in his career, he started out making games with dumb ideas, and other people had the power to stop him and say "no" he got credited as the game designer and shared in the success, but those other people with that power to shut ideas out were the ones really impacting the game. they mostly go uncredited, and get blasted on later, with peter saying "that publisher hated everything i did and tried to change it" through the power of crowdfunding, there's a bunch of people who believed peter was the driving force behind the games. they're funding peter to make the game he always wanted to make. turns out that game is p. poo poo.
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Nov 16, 2015 18:55
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Suspicious Dish posted:early on in his career, he started out making games with dumb ideas, and other people had the power to stop him and say "no" kickstarter has definitely made nerds way more retroactively sympathetic to hated publishers of 80s-90s cult classics
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Nov 16, 2015 19:38
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fable was fine it just had a ton of hype so people were disappointed when it was just ok
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Nov 16, 2015 19:43
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Shaggar posted:fable was fine it just had a ton of hype so people were disappointed when it was just ok that's because it had an idiot at the helm and dozens and dozens of talented people working as hard as they could to drag the game into "good" territory despite his involvement and a huge budget
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Nov 16, 2015 19:46
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rock paper shotgun conducted an actual interview with him and asked him hard questions like a real journalist would and the games industry and the rest of games writing closed ranks around him because they were being too mean
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Nov 16, 2015 21:28
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theflyingorc posted:he's the only person I know if in the games industry who appears to actually have the job of "ideas guy" idk, i think all of his games could have turned out well in the hands of a competent-but-not-amazing game designer, so i'd say he's an okay "ideas guy" who unfortunately convinced people he was also good at anything useful
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Nov 17, 2015 01:22
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molyneux has always been a guy to me whose track record just continually underdelivers not really worth getting mad at tbh
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Nov 17, 2015 01:55
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Shaggar posted:fable was fine it just had a ton of hype so people were disappointed when it was just ok shaggar was.... right?
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Nov 17, 2015 01:57
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Just received signed Art of Godeus book, pretty nice.
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Nov 17, 2015 02:08
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MrMoo posted:Godeus i vote no confidence in molyneux and nominate mrmoo as the new Games Industry Ideas Guy
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Nov 17, 2015 02:49
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Al! posted:rock paper shotgun conducted an actual interview with him and asked him That interview literally started with "would you say you are a pathological liar?". That's not journalism, that's not even clickbait, that's just hateblogging with interviews.
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Nov 17, 2015 04:12
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as somebody with an E, U, and X in their last name, i must say that molyneux has been a disappointment. i must bring this up at the next council meating.
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Nov 17, 2015 04:15
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SolTerrasa posted:That interview literally started with "would you say you are a pathological liar?" 
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Nov 17, 2015 04:17
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it's legit good journalism (even if it's video games) imho
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Nov 17, 2015 04:21
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SolTerrasa posted:That interview literally started with "would you say you are a pathological liar?". That's not journalism, that's not even clickbait, that's just hateblogging with interviews. asking somebody who lies all the time about his lies is hardly "hateblogging"
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Nov 17, 2015 11:11
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Improbable Lobster posted:it's legit good journalism (even if it's video games) imho interrupting the interviewee three words into his first answer seems like poor technique to me
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Nov 17, 2015 11:23
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I remember reading that, I thought Moly was really quite composed and forthcoming in what was surely a very difficult talk. He sounded pretty open about what he does differently now compared to eg the 90s and what's happening in the studio atm. I say this all as someone who was never screwed by an under delivering game in the 90s so I have no right & wtf do i know
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Nov 17, 2015 11:32
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qntm posted:interrupting the interviewee three words into his first answer seems like poor technique to me we only have the text version of the conversation, so that might be a pause by molyneux, not an interruption by the interviewer. given the starting question, it's good of them to provide background Mister Sinewave posted:I remember reading that, I thought Moly was really quite composed and forthcoming in what was surely a very difficult talk. He sounded pretty open about what he does differently now compared to eg the 90s and what's happening in the studio atm. he definitely deserves credit for trying to explain himself instead of just walking away
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Nov 17, 2015 12:07
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Improbable Lobster posted:it's legit good journalism (even if it's video games) imho uhh no
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Nov 17, 2015 14:44
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*sits down to interview george w bush* hello sir why do you hate black people
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Nov 17, 2015 14:45
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there is a big difference between scoring points with your base and conducting a good interview
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Nov 17, 2015 14:45
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molyneux should take tips from lucas, he knows how to troll his fans right back 
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Nov 17, 2015 14:49
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Bloody posted:*sits down to interview george w bush* hello sir why do you hate black people
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Nov 17, 2015 14:52
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Bloody posted:*sits down to interview george w bush* hello sir why do you hate black people lol @ Mike Myers face when Kanye was 'George Bush doesn't care about black people.' 
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Nov 17, 2015 14:54
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prefect posted:asking somebody who lies all the time about his lies is hardly "hateblogging" he doesn't even lie, he just doesn't know what he's doing. that interview is garbage. smart journalists, if they want to make somebody look bad, ask them questions that don't seem like attacks to make the person hang themselves on their own words. it wouldn't be good journalism to start an interview with BEN CARSON, WHY ARE YOU DUMB
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Nov 17, 2015 15:14
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theflyingorc posted:he doesn't even lie, he just doesn't know what he's doing. i wouldn't have started with the "pathological liar" thing. it's a question of ignorance or malice, so you set the situation up and let him say "we screwed up" or "we said things we knew weren't true" but maybe it was a more casual interview environment. also, it's just game journalism, so any improvement is good
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Nov 17, 2015 15:32
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I mean he consistently delivers games with mechanics that are at least attempting to be different. Even if they're bad ideas at least it's not the nth iteration of call of duty. If promising a gaming revolution is what's necessary to get investors on board with creating interesting but flawed products, I don't really have an issue with it.
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Nov 17, 2015 15:47
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Bloody posted:*sits down to interview george w bush* hello sir why do you hate black people that's a pretty good question for him though
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Nov 17, 2015 17:52
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bush is too dopey to hate anybody, even gat-packing welfare queens
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Nov 17, 2015 19:43
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dungeon keeper was a good game is my opinion on mounleoux
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Nov 17, 2015 22:09
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/taleoftales/cathedral-in-the-clouds-contemplation-in-the-digit
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Nov 17, 2015 22:39
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i'm sure it's a fine idea but i don't have vr goggles.
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tale of tales is such gutter trash, literally nothing they've ever made is any good tale's of game's on the other hand
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