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Boinks posted:Either that or show us some kind of skill tree so we know what we're working towards. I'm pretty sure it does the latter on the bottom screen like in DQ9.
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TurnipFritter posted:I'm pretty sure it does the latter on the bottom screen like in DQ9. Awesome, I can't wait.
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A great bit of news for Dragon Quest fans indeed. I am enjoying Dragon Quest Heroes. About 5 hours in and so far I give it 6.5/10. It is very fun to play for one or two battles then I feel I need to put it down and play something else. What it does is awesome but I don't lose myself in the world/adventury bits. I see this taking me months to finish as I only play 30-60 minutes a day while spending longer gaming sessions on more immersive games. Still, happy I got it at launch, happy that Q7 and 8 are coming to 3DS (I might have to pick one up again if they come out in Europe) and really, really hoping this is a sign that XI will see an English translation. I guess it is too much to hope that Square Enix signs with Sony and gets their stuff on PS Now. Would love to play DQ8 through my PS4...
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Erg posted:What did you actually want from a 3DS remake of 8? Like, my only complaint would be that it doesn't look as nice as the PS2 version. Online content like that which was in all 3 of the other 3DS games. Includes pseudo DLC for free, as well as streetpass features that add dozens of hours of gameplay to the game, which I stress, is done online via wi-fi. Not sure why so many people seem to keep missing the fact that dqm, dqm2, and dq7 all streetpass over the Internet, meaning you will always have people to pass from your home.
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If it's online functionality it's not streetpass. They're arguing about the nomenclature, they're not disputing the claim that the streetpass features have an online equivalent.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:If it's online functionality it's not streetpass. They're arguing about the nomenclature, they're not disputing the claim that the streetpass features have an online equivalent. I've explained this like 3 times now. Please TRY to listen. DQ7, DQM, DQM2 all allow you to streetpass people over the Internet. There is a specific FEATURE OF THE GAME called online street pass, that allows you to connect to random people a set number of times per day, or under certain circumstances (ie, in dqm2, you can set the game to streetpass any person you fight in a casual or ranked battle via the online battle feature, if you choose to do so) that works the exact same as if you were to streetpass a person on the street. Online features and online streetpass are two separate things (or two different aspects of the same thing), that these games have. DQ8 in fact has the feature as well, but as I explained before, it doesn't work correctly because you need to steetpass the same random 1 in however many 100s of thousands of people are using the feature twice on two separate days to benefit from it. Additionally, the streetpass features are useless on top of that anyways, so it's moot. BabyRyoga fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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Nov 17, 2015 00:10
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BabyRyoga posted:Online content like that which was in all 3 of the other 3DS games. But the online content that you're referring to is what exactly? If it's Monster Arena battles, then you make it sound like they've already got DQM1&2 to cover that. Like, DQ8's arena is just recruit poo poo, so it doesn't really have the form a party of perfect monsters aspect going for it. And what was 7's online content? I haven't played the Japanese games, and I haven't really seen any import reviews or anything.
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Erg posted:But the online content that you're referring to is what exactly? If it's Monster Arena battles, then you make it sound like they've already got DQM1&2 to cover that. DQ7 has maps (or shard fragments to fit the theme) that work like dq9s maps. They come both in DLC and player generated form.
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Nov 17, 2015 00:17
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BabyRyoga posted:DQ7 has maps (or shard fragments to fit the theme) that work like dq9s maps. They come both in DLC and player generated form. Oh okay, I see what you're looking for then. I mean, I'm not sure lengthy RPGs like Dragon Quest need padding like that. But now I understand what you wanted at least. Did the DLC shards in 7 have some story attached to them, or was it just here's a map, kill the boss?
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Nov 17, 2015 00:26
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BabyRyoga posted:DQ7 has maps (or shard fragments to fit the theme) that work like dq9s maps. They come both in DLC and player generated form. Ugh. The random dungeons were by far the worst part about DQ9 (EDIT: For me, I'm sure others enjoyed them). I'd consider it a benefit that DQ8DS doesn't have any of that poo poo, because it means no content is gated behind it. (Similarly, I would never, ever do online competitive multiplayer and probably never do online cooperative multiplayer, so "but DQM had online content gated behind that!" is not a rallying point for me either) Zurai fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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Nov 17, 2015 00:26
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Yeah, I have to say "DQ8 doesn't have the crappy DLC of DQ9" is a net positive, not negative for me.
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Erg posted:Oh okay, I see what you're looking for then. I mean, I'm not sure lengthy RPGs like Dragon Quest need padding like that. But now I understand what you wanted at least. None of the stuff in 7 is story related. I mean, I guess you need to go through the motions of streetpassing or downloading the DLC at least a little bit to fill up your immigrant town with citizens, as it is tied into that. You don't actually have to play the dungeons though if you just want to max out your town. Zurai posted:
The 3DS DQM games are largely competitive battles. There is story, but it doesn't have much substance to it at all. A fair comparison would be that they are kinda like the 3DS Pokemon games, but less story driven and more competitive online content focused. Could be that this is why they haven't been picked up for localization.
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Yeah, that's fair enough, then. If the game is competitive multiplayer centric, then content based around competitive multiplayer is fine. They're not games I'd ever buy, but not every game is for me, after all.
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Yeah, for DQ8 especially I don't think I'd really want random generated dungeons. It'd be kind of weird compared to DQ7. More dungeons of any sort when I've got more classes and stuff that masters per battle? Sure, give me more places to battle even if they're random and generic. DQ8? Naw, I'm good.
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, I have to say "DQ8 doesn't have the crappy DLC of DQ9" is a net positive, not negative for me. I only ever did the boss battles in DQ9 to any degree once I came across the Hoimi Table. Though I did get the gauntlets to drop off the first map's boss the 2nd time I fought him, which was cool because it meant having amazing armor for my MC for about half the game.
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Evil Fluffy posted:
Disgaea 1 is headed to Steam, so you may be in luck.
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 DQH Steam page is live and the game comes out on December 3rd. http://store.steampowered.com/app/410850/ TurnipFritter posted:Disgaea 1 is headed to Steam, so you may be in luck. Neat. Here's hoping the rest follow. I might grab Disgaea 1 when it comes out. Hopefully it's either a remake with QoL improvements or the game's aged well.
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Just a heads up, Dragon Quest: Heroes now has a page on the Steam store so you can pre-order. Currently you get 10% off the price so purchase it now if you know you're getting it. e: beaten
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Evil Fluffy posted:
I don't think it's a remake but a port of Hour of Darkness with some minor updates. It goes into more detail on the Steam page.
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Evil Fluffy posted:
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i beat DQH today. all quests. 60ish hours of fun for me. need the multiplayer sequel right now.
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Real hurthling! posted:i beat DQH today. all quests. 60ish hours of fun for me. need the multiplayer sequel right now. How did you beat the Lion and the Hydra at the same time. I keep getting wrecked. Also, a couple of those Map bosses wreck me (Zoma, etc.)
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logger posted:Just a heads up, Dragon Quest: Heroes now has a page on the Steam store so you can pre-order. Currently you get 10% off the price so purchase it now if you know you're getting it. Check with Greenmangaming before pre-ordering. They usually have a 20% off coupon for major games.
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Tae posted:Check with Greenmangaming before pre-ordering. They usually have a 20% off coupon for major games. Apparently they're also pretty scummy and a lot of companies have been disavowing them so be careful.
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is it normal to have the last mission of DQH appear as new! on my map after i beat it already? the red book icon is there and it is still telling me I have "the light vs the night" to beat but i already did it and saw the credits roll. strange. Also who do i talk to to trigger ng+? LorneReams posted:How did you beat the Lion and the Hydra at the same time. I keep getting wrecked. i used a lot of healstones.
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ImpAtom posted:Apparently they're also pretty scummy and a lot of companies have been disavowing them so be careful. Is there a link to it? I've never had problems with them in like the 3 years I used them outside of that time they changed prices because Europe complained that their games are priced correctly instead of the direct Dollars translation.
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The thing with GMG is that some publishers like activision and ubisoft claim they aren't authorized key sellers for their games, so if you buy something from those publishers where your key is actually coming from could be a little suspect, but they also have official deals with a lot of other publishers. GMG actually lists SE as one of their official partners on the site, so you're safe there
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Red Red Blue posted:The thing with GMG is that some publishers like activision and ubisoft claim they aren't authorized key sellers for their games, so if you buy something from those publishers where your key is actually coming from could be a little suspect, but they also have official deals with a lot of other publishers. GMG actually lists SE as one of their official partners on the site, so you're safe there I never bought ubisoft or activision games so that would explain it. Just buy games from the official sponsors that are at the bottom of the site.
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FanaticalMilk posted:I don't think it's a remake but a port of Hour of Darkness with some minor updates. It goes into more detail on the Steam page. It's a port of Afternoon of Darkness, so it has things like animation skip.
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In Dragon Quest Heroes, when do I start getting good recipes and what can I do with the crafted items? Where's the place to equip them?
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Nov 20, 2015 11:35
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Too bad disgaea 1 is the worst gaea.
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BadAstronaut posted:In Dragon Quest Heroes, when do I start getting good recipes and what can I do with the crafted items? Where's the place to equip them? I started getting them almost immediately, although some are of questionable use. My first item I created and used for most of the game was the thing that keeps you from being knocked back. Absolutely worth it until end game.
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BadAstronaut posted:How do we equip them to individual characters? Choose equip? Each character has three slots.
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ImpAtom posted:Apparently they're also pretty scummy and a lot of companies have been disavowing them so be careful. Yeah, selling $60 games for $40 sure is scummy. I feel so bad for the multi billion dollar corporations who are suffering because of this.
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Tired Moritz posted:Too bad disgaea 1 is the worst gaea. No, that is 3. Adam Bowen posted:Yeah, selling $60 games for $40 sure is scummy. I feel so bad for the multi billion dollar corporations who are suffering because of this. There is literally nobody anywhere, ever, who said that selling games at discount is the issue there.
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That's exactly the issue that those companies have with it. It's no different than textbook publishers getting mad because you can buy one of their books from India for $30 instead of paying them $200.
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No, the problem is that the grey market has no oversight so those cheap keys could have been bought with stolen credit cards before being sold to places like GMG.
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BadAstronaut posted:In Dragon Quest Heroes, when do I start getting good recipes and what can I do with the crafted items? Where's the place to equip them? Recipes you earn as drops or buy with medals. there are lots of good ones. to make them though You need to do bag quests to get space for better mats unless you dont mind selling all your poo poo mats one at a time in the shop to make room for what you need. The most powerful items ive found raise your crit rate which with the skills that give you damage boost and mana regen on crit, basicall break the game.
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Adam Bowen posted:That's exactly the issue that those companies have with it. It's no different than textbook publishers getting mad because you can buy one of their books from India for $30 instead of paying them $200. No, the problem is that they are selling grey market keys which are not supported and may even be purchased illegally or not work. That is in fact the thing that started this whole kerfluffle because people were getting codes that didn't work and Activision's response was "Well, they're not official resellers so sucks for you." If S-E is an official partner with GMG then it shouldn't be an issue but acting like it's a problem because they're being sold cheap is dumb.
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