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David Vitter, the worst person in politics?quote:"Obama's sending Syrian refugees to Louisiana," says a narrator. "David Vitter warned Obama of the danger of Syrian refugees weeks ago, and promised as governor, no Syrian refugees will enter Louisiana. John Bel Edwards has promised to work with Obama to bring Syrian refugees to Louisiana." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...yrian-refugees/
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crazy cloud posted:I'm going to take a picture of a guy using a flag pole as a giant stick to hit this nice person Is it a government nice person?
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Nov 17, 2015 16:24
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Governor Wolf here in PA issued a statement that we'll still work with the federal government to resettle refugees. It's nice to have someone sane in charge. Is there a list of the states that have issued pro-refugee statements anywhere? Looking around on google only gives me a list of the ones throwing tantrums.
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Nov 17, 2015 16:24
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Umass has a national poll out Trump - 31 Carson - 22 Every candidate acceptable to the establishment combined - 22 Cruz - 13 Paul - 4 Btw that combined has Bush at 3%
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Nov 17, 2015 16:24
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Fried Chicken posted:Umass has a national poll out Sounds like the GOP needs to ramp up the rollout of it's Splicing and Bio Engineering program. "I present to you our new candidate, RuFi KaJeb!"
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Nov 17, 2015 16:28
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Greatbacon posted:Sounds like the GOP needs to ramp up the rollout of it's Splicing and Bio Engineering program. Sounds Muslim....
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Nov 17, 2015 16:29
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Nolanar posted:Governor Wolf here in PA issued a statement that we'll still work with the federal government to resettle refugees. It's nice to have someone sane in charge. Is there a list of the states that have issued pro-refugee statements anywhere? Looking around on google only gives me a list of the ones throwing tantrums. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/20/us/100000003983109.mobile.html NYT has a helpful graphic of the states that are pro or anti refugee, as well as where most of the refugees have gone since 2012. No links to the governors' public statements, though.
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Nov 17, 2015 16:33
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Greatbacon posted:Sounds like the GOP needs to ramp up the rollout of it's Splicing and Bio Engineering program. The funny part is if you craft that monster on to Cruz he/it barely edges out Trump.
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Nov 17, 2015 16:35
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greatn posted:I wish the Republican party could be more like George W Bush. After 9/11 he came out talking about how Muslims were not out enemies and they were being misrepresented by a small group of extremists and we had to protect and be kind to our neighbors and poo poo. And he ensured innocent relatives of Bin Laden who had nothing to do with it were moved safely out of the country so they wouldn't get murdered(some liberals actually attached him for this). No poo poo. Compare to what any current Republican candidate has said: George W. Bush posted:THE PRESIDENT: Thank you all very much for your hospitality. We've just had a -- wide-ranging discussions on the matter at hand. Like the good folks standing with me, the American people were appalled and outraged at last Tuesday's attacks. And so were Muslims all across the world. Both Americans and Muslim friends and citizens, tax-paying citizens, and Muslims in nations were just appalled and could not believe what we saw on our TV screens. http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html
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Nov 17, 2015 16:36
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:I haven't used Facebook in over a year, how bad was it getting? From a scale of "I think Muslims are a bit shifty-eyed and suspicious" to "immediate genocide and concentration camps now"? I have two PTSD-addled brothers who are former Army, a bunch of people who I was in the Marines with, and a mix between ultra-religious family members and some airsofters/try hard nerds. They're all pretty much fans of camps and nukes. I need better friends 
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Nov 17, 2015 16:41
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Radish posted:The funny part is if you craft that monster on to Cruz he/it barely edges out Trump. *amorphous disfigured blob of muscle and skin tissue writhes and clambers across the debate floor* "Kiiiilllll.... Me..... Vote.... Conservative...."
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Nov 17, 2015 16:45
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:*amorphous disfigured blob of muscle and skin tissue writhes and clambers across the debate floor* White Hot Ball of Rage/Angry Amorphous Blob 2016
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Nov 17, 2015 16:49
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:*amorphous disfigured blob of muscle and skin tissue writhes and clambers across the debate floor* but enough about huckabee
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Riosan posted:White Hot Ball of Rage/Angry Amorphous Blob 2016 They would nominate a white candidate.
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Nov 17, 2015 16:54
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Shageletic posted:David Vitter, the worst person in politics? That race is awesome. It's such gutter shitball politics. Exactly what Vitter deserves.
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Nov 17, 2015 16:56
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mlmp08 posted:Massachusetts just may still be reeling from some kind of past terrorist attack. Maybe one involving refugees... Massachusetts isn't against the refugees, just the Republican governor is. It's the same deal in Illinois.
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Nov 17, 2015 16:56
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fishmech posted:Massachusetts isn't against the refugees, just the Republican governor is. It's the same deal in Illinois. Honestly it's probably the same in Idaho. Boise has been quietly accepting refugees for decades now, most of them from about as wartorn areas at the time as Syria is now.
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Nov 17, 2015 16:59
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The funny part is that governors have literally no control over who can come into their states.
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Nov 17, 2015 17:01
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I wonder how long it'll take for Brownback to pick up the phone and answer the meatpacking/freezepacking industry in his state who have benefited greatly from immigration, especially from South Asia/Mideast/North Africa. Seriously there are burgeoning enclaves around those plants down there, just like the way the Mexican community cropped up in South Omaha with the packing plants a century ago.
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Nov 17, 2015 17:06
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mcmagic posted:The funny part is that governors have literally no control over who can come into their states. I'm curious what the response will be from the voters that support refusing refugees will be if they continue to come into those states. Will they blame Obama for being a tyrant or their own Governors for being weak RINOs?
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Nov 17, 2015 17:08
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mcmagic posted:The funny part is that governors have literally no control over who can come into their states. They can defund any NGO that works with refugees.
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Nov 17, 2015 17:12
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Radish posted:I'm curious what the response will be from the voters that support refusing refugees will be if they continue to come into those states. Will they blame Obama for being a tyrant or their own Governors for being weak RINOs? Yes.
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Nov 17, 2015 17:14
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By the way, as the GOP shits their diaper over daesh, remember that they are blocking the appointment of - Secretary of Army - Under Sec of Defense for Intelligence - Under Sec of Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Crimes Yep, really taking this whole "War On Terror" thing serious there
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Nov 17, 2015 17:16
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If Obama would just nominate some bloodthirsty Liberty University grad they wouldn't have to do that.  Well they would do it anyway but maybe think about it at least.
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Nov 17, 2015 17:17
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Fried Chicken posted:By the way, as the GOP shits their diaper over daesh, remember that they are blocking the appointment of If Obama was serious about fighting ISIS, he'd immediately step down and convince Hillary to drop out as well. Only with a True Republican Government will ISIS be defeated. I mean, look at how well we destroyed Al-Qaeda and the Taliban.
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Nov 17, 2015 17:17
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If Obama were serious about fighting terrorism, he'd get Congress to declare war on ISIL and use his war powers to force everything he wants through.
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Logikv9 posted:If Obama was serious about fighting ISIS, he'd immediately step down and convince Hillary to drop out as well. Only with a True Republican Government will ISIS be defeated. I mean, look at how well we destroyed Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. My Imaginary GF posted:If Obama were serious about fighting terrorism, he'd get Congress to declare war on ISIL and use his war powers to force everything he wants through.
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Nov 17, 2015 17:21
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Radish posted:I'm curious what the response will be from the voters that support refusing refugees will be if they continue to come into those states. Will they blame Obama for being a tyrant or their own Governors for being weak RINOs? Do you have to ask? It's Obama.  Seriously, all the governors have to do is direct the white hot unbridled rage at Obama for anything good or bad involving immuhgrunts, it's an easy win-win for them now (albeit lose-lose for the refugees in question). Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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Nov 17, 2015 17:21
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Is the person who was nominated to be Secretary of the Army the gay man? I know Obama appointed a gay man for one of those positions but I forget which one.
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Nov 17, 2015 17:24
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The Unholy Ghost posted:Could someone tell me why it's stupid to be wary of refugees when one of the Paris bombers was disguised as a refugee? I don't know, why not be scared of all black people because Bill Cosby was a predator?
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Nov 17, 2015 17:32
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My Imaginary GF posted:If Obama were serious about fighting terrorism, he'd get Congress to declare war on ISIL and use his war powers to force everything he wants through. If Obama were serious about fighting terrorism, he'd ask Congress for the open-ended AUMF Republicans want to have in place on January 20, 2017. (Remember, one of the reasons Republicans rejected his AUMF was because it wasn't broad enough for a Republican president to abuse.)
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ComradeCosmobot posted:If Obama were serious about fighting terrorism, he'd ask Congress for the open-ended AUMF Republicans want to have in place on January 20, 2017. (Remember, one of the reasons Republicans rejected his AUMF was because it wasn't broad enough for a Republican president to abuse.) Declarations of War are broad enough. Would Congress really veto an outright Declaration of War on ISIL, if it was sold as 'this is like after Pearl Harbor'?
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Radish posted:I'm curious what the response will be from the voters that support refusing refugees will be if they continue to come into those states. Will they blame Obama for being a tyrant or their own Governors for being weak RINOs? A major new poll from the Public Religion Research Institute suggests these GOP lawmakers and candidates may be reading the mood of the overall public — and GOP voters in particular — with dispiriting accuracy. The poll finds that Americans overall agree by 56-41 that the values of Islam are at odds with American values and the American way of life. Meanwhile, Americans are almost perfectly split on the value of immigration: 47 percent say immigrants strengthen the country with hard work and talent, while a depressingly high 46 percent say they are a burden on the U.S. because they take jobs, housing and health care. The CEO of PRRI tells religion writer Sarah Posner that the findings show an “increased xenophobic streak” among the American public overall. Here are some of the more specific findings: — Republicans say in far greater numbers than Americans overall that immigrants burden the country rather than strengthening it: they support this view by 66-26. — According to numbers given to Posner by PRRI, 80 percent of Trump supporters see immigrants as a burden. — Republicans and certain voter groups aligned with the GOP are much more pessimistic about American decline than Americans overall. While Americans are split on whether America’s best days are ahead of us or behind us, Republicans say by 58-41 that they are behind us. Tea Partyers say this by 65-33. And 60 percent of white evangelicals — a key voting bloc in GOP primaries — agree with this. All of this lends more evidence to a thesis already suggested by many analysts: that the GOP coalition is increasingly drawn from the “groups most unsettled by demographic and cultural change,” as Ron Brownstein has put it. These are the voters that may be fueling the Trump phenomenon, and now, it’s possible that the Paris attacks could encourage more of the GOP candidates to try to appeal to them with similar rhetoric. We’re already seeing Ted Cruz launch spirited new efforts along these lines, as you’ll see below. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-this-new-poll/
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My Imaginary GF posted:If Obama were serious about fighting terrorism, he'd get Congress to declare war on ISIL and use his war powers to force everything he wants through. Didn't he try to do that earlier this year and the Republicans said no?
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:Didn't he try to do that earlier this year and the Republicans said no? Closer to two years ago. Whenever we said we'd start funding rebels, that was only after a new AUMF was shot down by Congress.
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Nov 17, 2015 17:40
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Now would be a good time to remind them that just a few months ago they wouldn't shut up about how all lives matter.
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computer parts posted:Closer to two years ago. Whenever we said we'd start funding rebels, that was only after a new AUMF was shot down by Congress.
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Nov 17, 2015 17:46
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The number of people saying that should fix the problem themselves and stay in Syria is depressing. And I can't even form into words why that's a bad idea.
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KomradeX posted:The number of people saying that should fix the problem themselves and stay in Syria is depressing. And I can't even form into words why that's a bad idea. The reality is that any bombing campaign is going to cause collateral damage if you don't do something about the refugees.
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:The reality is that any bombing campaign is going to cause collateral damage if you don't do something about the refugees. I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill em all.
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