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Mithaldu posted:At close range? Including the top gunner? TD's don't flank things so I have no idea why you compared it to a TD. Mediums flank things. A medium with a crappy gun and that is as slow as a heavy tank is not going to be super desirable. In Planetside 2, unlike in WoT, there are aircraft. Aircraft are really good at punishing lone tanks with stealth out of position. The magrider strugles in particular fighting aircraft due to the fixed gun, low angle of main gun elevation, and the fact that you have to find some kind of terrain feature to raise the nose to hit aircraft. However, that requires that the terrain feature you want to use (start of a hill) is in the same direction as the aircraft, or you can't do poo poo. If there is nothing to raise your nose and the guy stays >45 degrees you can sit there and die. All of that is fair play within PS2, but the tank that tends to be places where it shouldn't is also the one that really has a bad time with aircraft. You see the problem, right?
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Fans posted:Maybe not the ideal role for the slowest vechicle in the game. That's not quite true, spider tank can go almost anywhere it pleases once you know how it works, it is my absolute favourite tank to drive on Amerish and about half of esamir/indar, the mobility advantage it conveys is not expressable in numbers, it is also by far the smoothest driving tank and is able to be the nimblest, with a saron on top you can just spike damage, you shouldnt lose to a prowler unless you dont see him coming, vanguard is an interesting question, you'll probably lose if you dont have the right sort of terrain to play benny hill around until the shield wears off. The reason i like the tank so much is just you can pull things off you cant in other tanks, crawling up a hill behind a prowler pack, laying mines on a road, alpha'ing one and running away as 5 BWC prowlers explode in your wake will never ever get old, and you can avoid more damage with it in a straight tank on tank fight. Rakthar posted:TD's don't flank things so I have no idea why you compared it to a TD. Mediums flank things. A medium with a crappy gun and that is as slow as a heavy tank is not going to be super desirable. It has advantages for AA compared to the other tanks, being able to stick it on a bump very easily means that you can slot planes trying to stay above turret traverse, and there are bumps everywhere in planetside, its a neat feature, not as good as the Titan AP at it for my money but it still has the edge on the prowler. If you get caught alone by a plane in a tank you are hosed if the guy is any good, no if's or but's, the magrider can do something unexpected which might kill him, the vanguard just has a big lump of damage at high speed which if he gets careless you can get him with. (In a prowler you are probably SOL). (Just please DBG, please give it extra speed on that cannon, its like spitting at them)
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You can do almost everything in this game with any tool if you play to its strengths. That doesn't mean the magrider is a good tank . For fucks sake our faction trait is no bullet drop. Our "tank" throws slow pitch softball. I don't care if it can be good or used well, if I want a fun tank experience I have to switch factions or play warthunder.
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Nov 16, 2015 21:17
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magriders should be cheaper than the other tanks.
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Nov 16, 2015 21:36
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No magriders should be given a loving turret some guy already made the model its insanely easy but DBG just doesn't give a poo poo. You know whats an easy fix? PS1, main gun is on top while the 2nd gun is fixed frontal arc. Give magriders the same DPS as prowlers except 1 of the guns is in a fixed frontal arc. Remember magrider is the slowest tank that has neither staying power(vanguard) nor DPS(prowler). It is literally a complete failure in design.
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Nov 16, 2015 23:11
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Mustarde posted:If you can crutch a 3+ KDR with HA, there's no reason you can't get a similar or slightly lower result as an LA with the NS11-C. Some things to consider: So this stuff already helped. I hadn't clicked just how slow the bullets were with SPA on this gun. HVA, a comp, NW instead of ASC and swapping C4 for medkits have improved my performance already. Thanks dude!
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Nov 17, 2015 00:24
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ITT: Everyone forgets about the existence of the Saron. The Saron is the primary weapon of the McRyder. If you expect to do anything in a mag without a top tier gunner in a certed out Saron you probably should reconsider and pull a AP lightning. Good magrider crews are few and far between but I think that's mainly due to 99% of the meta revolving around redeployside completely neutering any chance at fun armor fights. ECUS were beastly in their mags when DBG broke the harasser's turret stabilization for a few months. Nookovian-Red fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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Nov 17, 2015 00:31
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One change: make mag's main gun have zero drop. Push it to live and see how that does.
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I remember when they said they were gonna give the Mag guns the same velocity as Vanguard guns. Then it didn't happen 
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Nov 17, 2015 03:52
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Tried the polaris, it was pretty nice but the thing is its only 143 out to 25m and pointless up close. Still have no reason not to use the orion/LSW--today at rime i turned a corner on 6 NC hugging a wall and just mowed them all down with the orion it was glorious. I might try the orion with a laser just to see how it fares because all close range fights seem to be hipfire ADAD spam now. Hit detection is so loving bad, flanked a pack of 6 NC and just held down the trigger but because they were so close together and moving 40 rounds didn't kill a single loving one. I now spray in a wide arc because the hit box is bouncing all over the loving place so if i follow the model i die. I'm basically playing PS1 with COF weapons.
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Nov 17, 2015 04:07
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PS1 had better FPS on worse computers than this.
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Nov 17, 2015 05:21
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Magriders are great when I know there's a lancer nest nearby I hide behind if a real tank shows up.
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Nov 17, 2015 06:21
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So the 3 year anniversary pack heroic boost only applies to one character? What kind of bullshit is that? Is the other stuff that comes with it any good?
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Nov 17, 2015 18:40
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It's a bad pack and you shouldn't bother.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:45
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magrider projectile should curve upwards imo
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Nov 17, 2015 18:49
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Yeah basically the only thing I'm going to be using is the camos after buying it. Too many things in the Exceptional tree now, I'll be finishing that up soon and don't generally want to be using stuff that isn't working towards a directive of some kind. For me (i.e. a dumb Whale that buys everything) there's no point using the AE pistols when they don't go towards pistols or the AE heavy guns when they don't go towards the bling armour. I would really have liked a golden Mercenary or something.
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Nov 17, 2015 19:08
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I just want the pack for the blue camo. Finally, a good camo for NC.
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Nov 17, 2015 19:13
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It does look really nice. It works very well with Shatter. BANANAGUNS
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Nov 17, 2015 19:32
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Yeah, seriously. I would buy that camo by itself.
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Nov 17, 2015 20:06
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It's funny how the NC are the only faction with camo that is actually really efficient, even if only against VS.
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Nov 17, 2015 20:24
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I have blue/digital on my infiltrator classes and for the first time ever as an NC at night I can sneak into big piles of VS people from odd angles and act like I'm supposed to be there. I can only imagine it'll be even better when I get black camo. You can't use Shatter and expect it to work though
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Nov 17, 2015 20:55
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Clamps McGraw posted:I have blue/digital on my infiltrator classes and for the first time ever as an NC at night I can sneak into big piles of VS people from odd angles and act like I'm supposed to be there. I can only imagine it'll be even better when I get black camo. But if you're not using shatter, industrial, or loyal hearts as NC, then why are you even playing the faction?
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Nov 17, 2015 21:49
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Gaghskull posted:But if you're not using shatter, industrial, or loyal hearts as NC, then why are you even playing the faction? I use splatter because it is offensive to the eyes. It's like Dazzle camo.
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Nov 17, 2015 22:28
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Emerald picked TR for the Server Smash. WILL THIS BE THE END OF EMERALD? Or will the Striker light up the skies as Emerald's DEATH TO ALL SKYGODS comes into effect?
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Keeshhound posted:I use splatter because it is offensive to the eyes. It's like Dazzle camo. So long as you have picked a camo that can give you a headache when you're hungover just by looking at it, you have chosen correctly. If you can cause a headache to someone sober, than you have the perfect camo.
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Gaghskull posted:But if you're not using shatter, industrial, or loyal hearts as NC, then why are you even playing the faction? Hey I use Shatter on all classes except when trying to 
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Segmentation Fault posted:I just want the pack for the blue camo. Finally, a good camo for NC. uh. shatter, the best camo, has existed for awhile!!!
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Theres a really nice solid blue, kinda dark, but super shiny camo that I really like but I can't recall the name of. Looks like a dark sapphire coating. EDIT: Just looked, "War Embers" Horizontal Tree fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Nov 18, 2015 |
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If they had released anniversary tech camo (which is even shinier and chromier) and a hydraulics kit for harassers I'd have sponged out.
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Gaghskull posted:If you can cause a headache to someone sober, than you have the perfect camo. That'd be Plasma.
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Nov 18, 2015 05:38
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I have plasma on everything. I love plasma, it is so bad.
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Clamps McGraw posted:So this stuff already helped. I hadn't clicked just how slow the bullets were with SPA on this gun. HVA, a comp, NW instead of ASC and swapping C4 for medkits have improved my performance already. Thanks dude! No problem - not many people actually try out some of the advice they are given. Kudos for keeping an open mind and I hope things keep getting better! Here's a video I made a while back with LA gameplay, it's mostly vanu carbines but I think there's some 11C footage. I generally play LA the same no matter what weapon - poke from mid range, try to catch people off guard, nanoweave, medkits. I'm no Vonic but I can hold my own most of the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEIKmdHRJ7g
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Clamps McGraw posted:Hey I use Shatter on all classes except when trying to Nah, be bright even then. My NC infiltrator sports loyal hearts, the cowboy hat, and pink loyal hearts gun. I just wish vs had something on the same level. Granted I haven't really played in a few months so maybe something got added.
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Mustarde posted:-HVA provides an absurd boost to velocity on the 11C so make sure you equip it This advice just changed the NS 11C for me. I couldn't see why people liked it when I had soft point on it. Equipped HVA last night and the gun clicked, thank you!
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JohnnieWalker919 posted:This advice just changed the NS 11C for me. I couldn't see why people liked it when I had soft point on it. Equipped HVA last night and the gun clicked, thank you! For whatever strange reason, different attachments affect each weapon differently. I used to have a spreadsheet out with every stat/attachment but I've long since stopped being such a nerd (yeah right). But one that that stood out was HVA's disproportionate boost to the 11C. It's something like a 30-40% velocity boost. I don't put HVA on anything else, but the 11C.
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Use HVA on all carbines but on nothing else. They get a special HVA that's more effective with less downside
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Carbines are just bigger SMGs. 
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Technically they're smaller rifles
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sitchelin posted:Carbines are just bigger SMGs. ns7 for life
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JohnnieWalker919 posted:This advice just changed the NS 11C for me. I couldn't see why people liked it when I had soft point on it. Equipped HVA last night and the gun clicked, thank you! Yeah seriously my k/d on LA has literally tripled going from SPA to HVA on this gun, it makes such a huge difference
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