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Slightly Toasted posted:Guess that would be a good place for her to start then huh No, it doesn't help your grammar, it helps you understand lovely grammar. I can confirm that small businesspeople have some of the worst grammar imaginable. I think it's because there's not as much of a need to communicate clearly with other people, as there is in a larger organization.
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EvilJoven posted:Back to Beerchat. I'm in Regina on business and ended up at some place called Bushwakkers and wanted something that goes down like water so they brought me something called Cheryl's Blonde and its yummy. I know that regional threads are a little more relaxed, but please try and avoid food/booze derails. thanks xox
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Professor Shark posted:A fun new game I came up with today is when you hear Right Wing politicians talk about how they're planning to refuse refugees, replace what they're saying with "I want to see young children and women die in horrible ways" A fun new game I came up with today is when you hear Left Wing politicians talk about how they're planning to pull out of the fight against ISIS, replace what they're saying with "I want to see young children and women die in horrible ways" It's getting tedious how similar the religious left and right are. I don't understand the fascination with conservative facebookers and saskatchewan though, they have zero power. We have a federal Liberal majority. BC, Ontario, Quebec, NS, NB and PEI all Liberal majorities. NDP majorities in Alberta and Manitoba. You've done it, progressives make every major decision in the country now no matter how much conservatives bellyache on facebook. 
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Nov 18, 2015 02:16
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I wonder what mandatory integration milestones we ought to put forward. Perhaps a new immigrant should be able to expertly weave tabarnak into sentences by the second month? Be acceptably fast on ice skates by the fourth, and able to play hockey within a year?
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Nov 18, 2015 02:17
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Ikantski posted:A fun new game I came up with today is when you hear Left Wing politicians talk about how they're planning to pull out of the fight against ISIS, replace what they're saying with "I want to see young children and women die in horrible ways" If it makes you feel any better, Manitoba will probably be blue in the next year barring an unlikely liberal surge.
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Nov 18, 2015 02:18
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You forgot the NL&L is very likely going red too.
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Nov 18, 2015 02:21
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Also calling Quebec's Liberals progressives is a bit fantastic. They're the CPC on economic issues, the Liberals on social issues (except less progressive), and the Alberta PCs on corruption.
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Nov 18, 2015 02:21
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Progressive is just another word for liberal.
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Nov 18, 2015 02:22
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Ikantski posted:A fun new game I came up with today is when you hear Left Wing politicians talk about how they're planning to pull out of the fight against ISIS, replace what they're saying with "I want to see young children and women die in horrible ways" I guess it depends on what you define as 'progressive' Like the BC Libs are quite possibly even worse than the loving federal tories
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Nov 18, 2015 02:23
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Heavy neutrino posted:Also calling Quebec's Liberals progressives is a bit fantastic. They're the CPC on economic issues, the Liberals on social issues (except less progressive), and the Alberta PCs on corruption. You know what grinds my gears? When people don't like the Liberals so they say that they're actually conservatives instead of just saying that they don't like that Liberal party. Happens for BC all the time, I bet THC is typing it right now. Alctel posted:I guess it depends on what you define as 'progressive' It's a little tongue in cheek because the Liberals constantly platform on being the most progressive. Wynne quote:Just about every observer of this election has said that the government I lead presented the most progressive budget in decades. Trudeau quote:“We listened and together we built one of the most progressive platforms in Canadian history,” Trudeau said at an event in the riding of Beaches-East York. Postess with the Mostest fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Nov 18, 2015 |
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Nov 18, 2015 02:23
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Sure but the Quebec Liberals are actually conservative. It's not for fun and jokes that Charest's name was even floated as a potential CPC leader. Also I'm pretty sure I've said I hate the Quebec Liberals too often to count in this thread.
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Nov 18, 2015 02:25
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It means liberal.
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Nov 18, 2015 02:27
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So unrelated to our government doing their normal thing and being fuckups, and the Cons being racist as poo poo, Canada's other racist as poo poo organization just decided to do their thing. So here's a crosspost from TFR:MohawkSatan posted:So there's this: Basically, the RCMP is deciding that they write the laws again. Because, y'know, that could never turn out badly.
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Heavy neutrino posted:Also calling Quebec's Liberals progressives is a bit fantastic. It is fantastic. The Quebec's Liberal party of today is an union of pretty much every hardcore canadian federalists. So you have both conservative and liberal elements in the same party. Jean Charest was a Tory before going liberal. In a way, the QLP is closer to what the old Tories used to be than any progressive liberal there was.
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Ikantski posted:A fun new game I came up with today is when you hear Left Wing politicians talk about how they're planning to pull out of the fight against ISIS, replace what they're saying with "I want to see young children and women die in horrible ways" The differences between the Conservatives, Liberals and NDP don't amount to much in practice. Western NDP governments were basically Blairites before Blair and the BC, Ontario and Quebec Liberals aren't much different than Conservatives on 90% of the issues, and in some cases might even be worse. Is it really so surprising that people end up fixating on the tribal markers that distinguish them and their friends from the scary out-group? "Progressives" don't really make decisions in any meaningful sense because, thanks to <reasons> the Canadian political spectrum is about as narrow as it's ever been. In a world where politics becomes Coke vs. Pepsi it's inevitable that diehard political junkies will try to find other ways to distinguish themselves from the supporters of the other parties.
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Heavy neutrino posted:Sure but the Quebec Liberals are actually conservative. It's not for fun and jokes that Charest's name was even floated as a potential CPC leader. But they actually were the most progressive major party in the last election because the other major party in your racist rear end province was trying to ban muslims right? MohawkSatan posted:So unrelated to our government doing their normal thing and being fuckups, and the Cons being racist as poo poo, Canada's other racist as poo poo organization just decided to do their thing. So here's a crosspost from TFR: It was in the Liberal platform that RCMP would get that power again so ... another promise kept. Think about what could happen if a refugee got their hands on one of those magazines, thanks RCMP.
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Heavy neutrino posted:Perhaps a new immigrant should be able to expertly weave tabarnak into sentences by the second month? By that metric, very few people west of Ottawa are properly integrated
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I guess it could be said that the CPC is "more progressive" than Christian Heritage, but that doesn't make them progressives.
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Its that time posted:The Quebec's Liberal party of today is an union of pretty much every hardcore canadian federalists. So you have both conservative and liberal elements in the same party. It's frustrating. My former Liberal NMA was a textbook progressive who recently resigned after the death of her husband.The newly elected Liberal NMA was, until very recently, a CAQ member.
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Nov 18, 2015 02:47
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Ikantski posted:You know what grinds my gears? When people don't like the Liberals so they say that they're actually conservatives instead of just saying that they don't like that Liberal party. Happens for BC all the time, I bet THC is typing it right now. It is pretty true in BC's case. I am sure there are liberals in the party, but it is a conservative party ever since the former provincial Socred party hijacked it. Last election they had federal conservatives campaigning for them.
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crowoutofcontext posted:It's frustrating. My former Liberal NMA was a textbook progressive who recently resigned after the death of her husband.The newly elected Liberal NMA was, until very recently, a CAQ member. At this point, the CAQ is basically the PLQ's farm team
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Helsing posted:The differences between the Conservatives, Liberals and NDP don't amount to much in practice. Western NDP governments were basically Blairites before Blair and the BC, Ontario and Quebec Liberals aren't much different than Conservatives on 90% of the issues, and in some cases might even be worse. Is it really so surprising that people end up fixating on the tribal markers that distinguish them and their friends from the scary out-group? Oh come on man, civil servants are dancing in the halls, we're fighting climate change, we're bringing peace to the middle east, legalizing weed and annoying legal gun owners. It's night and day and parliament hasn't even started yet. Look at this group of cabinet ministers and their values compared to the last group, I'd say there are major differences and that should lead to major differences in their decisions. Perhaps I should have said that conservative parties have virtually no power instead of progressives have all the power, that'd be less likely to offend you guys as progressives and still be accurate. "Progressives" do make decisions. Progressive voters, people in this very thread who would describe themselves as progressive, made the decision to vote in the most progressive budget and party Ontario has ever seen in 2014 and that decision led to the progressive decision to sell off our public utility so that we could progress on building some light rail lines. That was a decision made by progressives that conservatives got absolutely no say in. ocrumsprug posted:It is pretty true in BC's case. I am sure there are liberals in the party, but it is a conservative party ever since the former provincial Socred party hijacked it. Yeah but isn't there also a bunch of these? https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurakatherinemiller
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MohawkSatan posted:So unrelated to our government doing their normal thing and being fuckups, and the Cons being racist as poo poo, Canada's other racist as poo poo organization just decided to do their thing. So here's a crosspost from TFR:
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cowofwar posted:Just prohibit magazines entirely. Single round bolt action only. Problem solved. Even if you're anti-gun as all hell, you gotta admit that letting the RCMP start to make up laws, and invent poo poo nor actually present in Canadian law is a bad idea.
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http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1979/08/26/page/2/article/fake-viet-boat-people-map-u-s-spy-network/index.html ISIS is going to flood Canada with stealth refugee terrorists and also those sneaky Vietnamese Communist infiltrators are going to activate aaaaaaany day now.
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You know what would make it easy to tell if a group is Liberals or not? If they had a set of values. Conservatives are pretty easy to tell, NDP are consistent as well and greens are obvious, it's really just Liberals we always get perplexed with. Justin Trudeau removed partisanship from the Senate by not allowing Liberal senators to call themselves Liberal. I feel comfortable agreeing with JT that calling one's self Liberal is the primary characteristic that makes you a Liberal due to their constantly shifting set of values.
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Ikantski posted:You know what grinds my gears? When people don't like the Liberals so they say that they're actually conservatives instead of just saying that they don't like that Liberal party. Happens for BC all the time, I bet THC is typing it right now. The BC liberal party is essentially the conservative party. They've even considered changing their name in recent history because many in the ranks feel 'Liberal' doesn't correctly define them. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/bc-liberals-reject-motion-to-change-party-name/article18834999/ The party launched a review at the request of Premier Christy Clark, reflecting unease with the "Liberal" tag in a coalition party that is home to a large segment of federal Conservatives.
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MohawkSatan posted:Even if you're anti-gun as all hell, you gotta admit that letting the RCMP start to make up laws, and invent poo poo nor actually present in Canadian law is a bad idea.
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M.McFly posted:The BC liberal party is essentially the conservative party. They've even considered changing their name in recent history because many in the ranks feel 'Liberal' doesn't correctly define them. I don't think that makes them the conservative party although they do have a conservative segment to stay in power. Counterpoints though, a) they voted it down overwhelmingly and b) "It's a good brand," said Rich Coleman, a senior cabinet minister who represents the party's Conservative wing. "We can win in 2017 with the B.C. Liberal label." is the most Liberal thing I've ever read in my life.
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Yeah the BCLP are not liberals, they love privatization as much as the other liberals but they are way more similar to the federal conservatives.
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Ikantski posted:I don't think that makes them the conservative party although they do have a conservative segment to stay in power. Counterpoints though, a) they voted it down overwhelmingly and b) "It's a good brand," said Rich Coleman, a senior cabinet minister who represents the party's Conservative wing. "We can win in 2017 with the B.C. Liberal label." is the most Liberal thing I've ever read in my life. I'm not sure what you're arguing here - they're a center right party that brands themselves 'Liberal'. There's nothing new about that. They're certainly not an example of 'progressives' that you were referring to in your previous comment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Columbia_Liberal_Party
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sbaldrick posted:So Bell Media has gone through their staff with a hatchit today. Good, they obviously hate their staff as much as us poor bastards who have ever had to deal with their staff.
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Turns out the Paris attackers may have intended to incite alienation of refugees among western nations. Who knew. Sure glad we didn't fall for that ruse here in Canada. *cough* http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/police-believe-attackers-used-forged-passports-to-stigmatize-refugees-1.2662167 quote:There is evidence the Syrian passport found near the body of one of the Paris attackers is a fake. M.McFly fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Nov 18, 2015 |
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M.McFly posted:I'm not sure what you're arguing here - they're a center right party that brands themselves 'Liberal'. There's nothing new about that. They're certainly not an example of 'progressives' that you were referring to in your previous comment. Are you arguing that Liberal means left wing? I mean, everyone here seems to be saying that Ontario and Quebec are also center right so they're not real Liberal parties either? I don't get that logic, is there an ephemeral set of Liberal values that they keep secret and nobody is telling me? They are all Liberal parties precisely because they brand themselves as Liberal parties. Liberal doesn't have much meaning to me beyond that. I'm arguing that Liberal means taking the position that will get you into power while saying you're the most progressive. In BC, that meant a coalition with conservatives. Better than not being in power at all right? That's Liberal. The conservatives in BC have some power but really only as much as the Liberals give them. Clark posted:“Our provincial housing strategy is the most progressive in this country’s history,” said Premier Clark.
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M.McFly posted:Turns out the Paris attackers may have intended to incite alienation of refugees among western nations. Who knew. Sure glad we didn't fall for that ruse here in Canada. *cough* You'd have to be a literal retard to think it was completely legit. Why the gently caress would a suicide bomber bring their passport with them to their suicide mission unless it was to make some kind of a point? "I'm gonna blow my rear end up for Allah. Wait, better take this in case anyone asks about my citizenship..." EDIT: Ikantski's constant bitching about the Liberals, amazingly, is even more boring than endless beer-chat. What happened to the CI ignore-script? I want to modify it so that every Ikantski post is replaced with "LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS!" or something.
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Ikantski posted:Are you arguing that Liberal means left wing? I mean, everyone here seems to be saying that Ontario and Quebec are also center right so they're not real Liberal parties either? I don't get that logic, is there an ephemeral set of Liberal values that they keep secret and nobody is telling me? They are all Liberal parties precisely because they brand themselves as Liberal parties. Liberal doesn't have much meaning to me beyond that. You held up the BC Liberals as an example of progressives in power: quote:We have a federal Liberal majority. BC, Ontario, Quebec, NS, NB and PEI all Liberal majorities. NDP majorities in Alberta and Manitoba. You've done it, progressives make every major decision in the country now no matter how much conservatives bellyache on facebook. They're not.
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My main gripe was with this:Ikantski posted:I don't understand the fascination with conservative facebookers and saskatchewan though, they have zero power. We have a federal Liberal majority. BC, Ontario, Quebec, NS, NB and PEI all Liberal majorities. NDP majorities in Alberta and Manitoba. You've done it, progressives make every major decision in the country now no matter how much conservatives bellyache on facebook. Sure, I have no problem with the idea that the Liberal brand is without meaning, but "progressive" isn't.
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PT6A posted:You'd have to be a literal retard to think it was completely legit. Why the gently caress would a suicide bomber bring their passport with them to their suicide mission unless it was to make some kind of a point? "I'm gonna blow my rear end up for Allah. Wait, better take this in case anyone asks about my citizenship..." If you're going to write that script, at least go the whole hog and replace his posts with this: 
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