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Jealous Cow posted:People conflate understanding with empathy. You literally did that. You said what Kerry said, "sounds like victim blaming" E: New Page Content: Living in Iowa I took the opportunity today to e-mail Governor Branstad and tell him how much of a coward he was being. Also that he didn't have a legal leg to stand on. Will it change anything? No. Felt good though. Pook Good Mook fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Nov 18, 2015 |
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Action: CH attack Justification given by attackers: Mohamed cartoon/ blasphemy Action: Paris attacks Justification given by attackers: The west is bad??? One is much less nebulous and more easily explained. Jealous Cow posted:People conflate understanding with empathy. Willfully it seems in this case. bird cooch fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Nov 18, 2015 |
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Ok, I guess just keep avoiding learning anything about ISIS and their objectives. After all it's more fun fighting an enemy you know nothing about, right?
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bird cooch posted:Action: CH attack Uh actually it was the west's bombing campaign against ISIS and any one with half a loving brain can discern that obvious point. unless you think that ISIS is claiming the attacks without actually being a part of them which lol
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Both can be 'expected'. Charlie Hebdo could be anticipated as a very specific 'gently caress you!' - this more recent attack was a more general 'gently caress you' incitement
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Jealous Cow posted:Ok, I guess just keep avoiding learning anything about ISIS and their objectives. After all it's more fun fighting an enemy you know nothing about, right? Please teach us from your deep well of wisdom and understanding, master
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Please don't let this thread deteriorate into a combination of the worst of the Charlie Hebdo and Paris 11/13 threads.
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Boon posted:Please teach us from your deep well of wisdom and understanding, master Here are some good places to start if you're interested in learning more. https://theintercept.com/2015/11/17/islamic-states-goal-eliminating-the-grayzone-of-coexistence-between-muslims-and-the-west/ http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/fareed-zakaria-goal-isis-terrorism-world http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/ Edit: ISIS faked a Syrian passport. They want us to label Muslims as indiscriminate killing machines, stoke our xenophobia, and increase the tensions between Christians and Muslims. http://www.nytimes.com/live/paris-attacks-live-updates/syrian-passport-reportedly-was-stolen-or-fake/ Jealous Cow fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Nov 18, 2015 |
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USPOL Nov: The Second Time Jindal Quit A Race
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I miss saying from the CE days. We should say he's done more often
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quote:President Barack Obama is taking an even harsher tone against governors and lawmakers who want to stop the U.S. resettlement of Syrian refugees, blasting them for being "scared of widows and orphans" while playing into the hands of the Islamic State terrorist group. (link)
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Mandy Thompson posted:I miss saying from the CE days. We should say he's done more often He's said he's going to spend his time building his think tank instead, so poor ol' Bobby Jindal is just going to have to find a way to live for the rest of his life off millions of dollars in funding from the carbon extraction industry.
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my thread title was better
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Hot drat Obama's been pissed off lately. Good.
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"At first they were too scared of the press being too tough on them in the debates," Obama said. "Now they are scared of three-year-old orphans. That doesn't seem so tough to me." Campaign Obama is best Obama.
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Fried Chicken posted:my thread title was better I guess it just wasn't your night, Terry. Pook Good Mook posted:"At first they were too scared of the press being too tough on them in the debates," Obama said. "Now they are scared of three-year-old orphans. That doesn't seem so tough to me." Repeal the 22nd!
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The NRSC has a man dressed up as a tree following Russ Feingold around.
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Pook Good Mook posted:I'm pro-accepting more refugees but outside of putting your city forward as a haven a state doesn't have much control over where the Federal government sends groups. Obviously they're not doing something since Boise, Idaho, a city that's not only less than a quarter the size of Portland but is also in a more lily-white state, accepted more Syrian Refugees than Portland, via http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/21/us/where-syrian-refugees-are-in-the-united-states.html
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computer parts posted:Obviously they're not doing something since Boise, Idaho, a city that's not only less than a quarter the size of Portland but is also in a more lily-white state, accepted more Syrian Refugees than Portland, via http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/21/us/where-syrian-refugees-are-in-the-united-states.html Poor refugees have to put up with Butch Otter.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Poor refugees have to put up with Butch Otter. I mean, you could have elected the racist biker guy. You had options, dammit!
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Jealous Cow posted:http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/ This was a well-written rebuttal to the notion that we should take Daesh's tenuous theological justifications seriously.
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Joementum posted:Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*! Why didn't you tell the world, EH? As you know, the Premier loves surprises.
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Wales Grey posted:This was a well-written rebuttal to the notion that we should take Daesh's tenuous theological justifications seriously. Thanks, I read the first few paragraphs and will finish it later. I'm not sure I'd consider their states goal of dividing Muslims from the rest of society as being a theological justification. They may be coming up with a theological justification for that objective, but it's hard to argue that they've stated and taken steps in support of that objective.
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bird cooch posted:Action: CH attack It's simplistic to narrow the actions of a terrorist group into these categories, but it's something that old-school analysts might find themselves doing. Charlie Hebdo was, in theory, a tactical victory for ISIS: some people of importance who profaned the Prophet was killed. But the Paris attacks seem at first glance like they might have been just a tactical victory: many people were killed, but no long-term goals were achieved. This is likely what Kerry meant when he was making this statement. Unfortunately, he was wrong. As I said, ISIS is a guerilla-warfare-centric terrorist organization, and their perspective of what counts as a victory is different from a standard military organization. The Paris attacks fulfilled a stated goal of theirs: to make the climate more toxic for Muslims in general and migrants in particular. Either way, what Kerry said sounded really bad. And that's what really matters, as even if he thought it was a factual statement it sounds like he's blaming the victim. He shouldn't have said it, but what's done is done.
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The tree is the mascot of Stanford, where Feingold is currently teaching a course. The NRSC, noting how well this worked against Senator Professor Warren, believes that this is an effective attack.
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Good. Not letting in refugees is literally the most un-american and un-christian thing they can do, and they should be called out on it at every loving turn.
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Joementum posted:I mean, you could have elected the racist biker guy. You had options, dammit! Na Otter had Simplot in his corner. They supply McDs with fries.
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So as the Indiana Senate Republican caucus was unveiling its anti discrimination bill today (which has been met with howls of rage from their case), State Representative Bruce Borders (R-Jacksonville) was passing out copies of a book titled "Outlasting the Gay Revolution" Let's have an Amazon link quote:Outlasting the Gay Revolution: Where Homosexual Activism Is Really Going and How to Turn the Tide At this point I'm starting to think that following the news is bad for my wellbeing Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Nov 18, 2015 |
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Get drunk fried chicken.
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Fried Chicken posted:"Outlasting the Gay Revolution" Published by WorldNetDaily Books.
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Fried Chicken posted:So as the Indiana Senate Republican caucus was unveiling its anti discrimination bill today (which has been met with howls of rage from their case), State Representative Bruce Borders (R-Jacksonville) was passing out copies of a book titled "Outlasting the Gay Revolution" I had to shut it out for a while the last few days. I think that's the first time I've had to do that since Sandy Hook.
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Joementum posted:The tree is the mascot of Stanford, where Feingold is currently teaching a course. The NRSC, noting how well this worked against Senator Professor Warren, believes that this is an effective attack. Actually the mascot of Stanford is cardinal. No, not "a cardinal", like the bird, but the color. The tree is actually the mascot of the Stanford band, chosen in part because the university administration overruled a 1975 vote by students to replace their former mascot, the Indian, with the Robber Baron when they selected cardinal. The Tree was the most popular joke mascot of several to perform with the band in 1975 when they attempted to mock the ongoing mascot debacle at the time, and it stuck.
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Fried Chicken posted:So as the Indiana Senate Republican caucus was unveiling its anti discrimination bill today (which has been met with howls of rage from their case), State Representative Bruce Borders (R-Jacksonville) was passing out copies of a book titled "Outlasting the Gay Revolution" All I can think about after hearing that book title is the phrase "grit your teeth and think of England."
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Sexual and Spiritual Anarchy are cool and good.
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Joementum posted:The tree is the mascot of Stanford, where Feingold is currently teaching a course. The NRSC, noting how well this worked against Senator Professor Warren, believes that this is an effective attack. okay so that's why he's dressed up as a tree, now what exactly is the goal of having tree man follow feingold around?
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Raskolnikov38 posted:okay so that's why he's dressed up as a tree, now what exactly is the goal of having tree man follow feingold around? Because then people will remember that Russ Feingold is a college professor.
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Joementum posted:Because then people will remember that Russ Feingold is a college professor. You know just having an intern drop a fake tree at where ever he's at would probably be cheaper and just as effective.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:You know just having an intern drop a fake tree at where ever he's at would probably be cheaper and just as effective. There might be larger problems with this strategy than its cost.
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Joementum posted:There might be larger problems with this strategy than its cost. Senators are sophomores with the power of the purse?
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