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its like some poo poo out of battletech
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ded posted:an interesting tank but why wouldn't they just put it all into 1 chassis instead of making poo poo even more complicated. That same Ask Us About Military History thread had a guy post details on the inside of the S-Tank. What I remember is that it has two engine bays (because of the gun going so far back) with a separate turbine and diesel, and something like 4 gearboxes to connect the two and make them work in sync. It's hilariously overcomplicated for no good reason.
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Nov 15, 2015 17:50
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Wasn't the point of the S-Tank to destroy as many Soviet tanks as possible while falling back to a series of prepared positions until it was eventually destroyed? Who cares if the gearbox is hard to maintain when the tank's almost certain future was to eventually be overrun and smashed. So long as the gun could kill Ivan until that point
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Scratch Monkey posted:Wasn't the point of the S-Tank to destroy as many Soviet tanks as possible while falling back to a series of prepared positions until it was eventually destroyed? Who cares if the gearbox is hard to maintain when the tank's almost certain future was to eventually be overrun and smashed. So long as the gun could kill Ivan until that point
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Didn't you also have to stop to switch gears?
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Nov 15, 2015 20:59
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ded posted:an interesting tank but why wouldn't they just put it all into 1 chassis instead of making poo poo even more complicated. Probably the success of transport BV202 and it's even more succesfull sucessor, the BV206.  I guess they hoped they could get the same mobility in a heavier armored combat vehicle. That gif would make a lot more sense if ISIS didn't just bomb a Russian passenger plane.
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Scratch Monkey posted:Wasn't the point of the S-Tank to destroy as many Soviet tanks as possible while falling back to a series of prepared positions until it was eventually destroyed? Who cares if the gearbox is hard to maintain when the tank's almost certain future was to eventually be overrun and smashed. So long as the gun could kill Ivan until that point Paging TheFluff for a better explanation, but a solid no on the 'fighting while falling back point' as their prime reason for existing. Dudes just made the decision to forego on building a straight-up tank and went for a high speed low drag weird-rear end solution. All was still part of your regular armor playbook in having a mobile, hard-hitting reserve that can do counterattacks.
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Id be seriously interested in knowing how a turretless tank was meant to go on the offensive unless it was assumed that it would always be fighting in country that would allow it always have a defilade position to shoot from
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they did some wargames against the baor and determined that the s-tank wasn't worse off than british tanks in the offense. http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-42039/comparisons_with_turreted_tanks.htm there is some other frequently cited study that i cant find but this is the gist of it vains fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Nov 16, 2015 |
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:there is some other frequently cited study that i cant find but this is the gist of it quote:The main drawback that the "S" has recieved critisism for is the inability to fire on the move. That sort of jumps out at me. Perhaps it wasn't such a huge deal in 1982.
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Despite being an armor officer I don't know poo poo about tanks in general other than the Abrams, and even that's somewhat limited as far as boot armor LTs go, during STX/CME I only did 3 tank missions compared to 20 scout missions. Are there any foreign tanks that have anything like the Abrams' CITV? I know that the foreign officers in my class weren't allowed to use the A2 because of the CITV and some of the other upgrades it has. Seems like a pretty big game changer with the tank commander being able to acquire targets and designate the gunner onto them after he's done firing at another target.
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Nov 16, 2015 21:40
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Leo's have a 360 periscope with a thermal imager, so does the leclerc.
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Scratch Monkey posted:That sort of jumps out at me. Perhaps it wasn't such a huge deal in 1982. in the time period nobody had good enough stabilizers that firing on move was going to yield a high percentage first round/first burst hit from the move.
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Nov 17, 2015 01:15
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 French entry shield from this weekend. 27 hits from dudes wielding AKs wearing TATP suicide vests
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Nov 17, 2015 10:34
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:Does anybody smell almonds? #GETSOMME look, this is going back a few pages but it really needs to be brought back up because look how perfect it is loving lol
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Nov 17, 2015 11:48
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Nov 17, 2015 13:46
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Syria in a nutshell - US backed rebels using US provided TOW ATGMs to destroy a US Humvee likely provided to Iraqi forces who are now supporting Assad in Syria. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhKTnvBTQGU
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Brown Moses posted:Syria in a nutshell - US backed rebels using US provided TOW ATGMs to destroy a US Humvee likely provided to Iraqi forces who are now supporting Assad in Syria. Wait what? Have Iraqi security forces joined assad?
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Brown Moses posted:Syria in a nutshell - US backed rebels using US provided TOW ATGMs to destroy a US Humvee likely provided to Iraqi forces who are now supporting Assad in Syria. 12 years on and they're still coming up with ways of making that war a total waste of everything 
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Nov 17, 2015 16:23
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GyverMac posted:Wait what? Have Iraqi security forces joined assad? Likely the US gave them to Iraqi forces who shared them with militias backed by Iran, who have been fighting alongside them.
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Tank fires mid-air http://i.imgur.com/vBatKfc.gifv
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Nov 18, 2015 01:14
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We need another European land war. Everything looks better in woodland/OD.
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Nov 18, 2015 02:41
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Godholio posted:We need another European land war. Everything looks better in woodland/OD.
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GyverMac posted:Wait what? Have Iraqi security forces joined assad? the iraqi militias and armyshia are backed by the iraniansshia, and the iranians pull the strings of hezbollahshia, who are helping the assad regimeshia fight against isissunni and al nusrasunni and the fsasecular, syke! theyre sunni etc. just like every war in the mid east its across sectarian lines
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hostile apostle posted:Tank fires mid-air Ya think the gunner had raccoon-eyes after that?
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:the iraqi militias and armyshia are backed by the iraniansshia, and the iranians pull the strings of hezbollahshia, who are helping the assad regimeshia fight against isissunni and al nusrasunni and the fsasecular, syke! theyre sunni etc. just like every war in the mid east its across sectarian lines This is actually the best explanation I've seen since that Afghanistan.ppt mess.
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Brown Moses posted:Syria in a nutshell - US backed rebels using US provided TOW ATGMs to destroy a US Humvee likely provided to Iraqi forces who are now supporting Assad in Syria. For a second there i thought he was going to sail it through the things window. Are TOWS this easy to use or are all these guys using them really loving good? It always seems to be the same few guys in all the videos.
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Godholio posted:We need another European land war. Everything looks better in woodland/OD. I'm sure Ukraine wouldn't mind.
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Nov 18, 2015 11:23
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Godholio posted:We need another European land war. Everything looks better in woodland/OD. I was just thinking how weird it is seeing US heavy armor in woodland camo again.
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Nov 18, 2015 13:27
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Keket posted:For a second there i thought he was going to sail it through the things window. If the intelligence of every TOW Gunner I ever met is an indicator, they're practically Fisher-Price levels of simple
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Eel hovercraft posted:I was just thinking how weird it is seeing US heavy armor in woodland camo again. That reminds me of when the U.S. pulled out it's last Abrams from Germany a few years ago, and there was a minor show about it since it was the first time in sixty some odd years they didn't have MBTs in Europe...only for them to start redeploying them in Europe again this year thanks to Russia and their antics in Ukraine/Crimea.
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Keket posted:For a second there i thought he was going to sail it through the things window. Easy as gently caress to be all ninja TOW sniper. Assuming they don't just break the copper wire and shoot straight up in the air or any other random direction. And the engine doesn't fail. Or the warhead doesnt. Lowest bidder contract monkeys I assume.
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Keket posted:For a second there i thought he was going to sail it through the things window. Most infantry weapons are designed to be used by the dumbest hick motherfuckers on the planet.
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Nov 18, 2015 16:57
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ded posted:Most infantry weapons are designed to be used by the dumbest hick motherfuckers on the planet. Tell that to the ones that designed the ERYX. Having the missile drop because you aren't continuously pressing the trigger is pretty silly
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Booblord Zagats posted:If the intelligence of every TOW Gunner I ever met is an indicator, they're practically Fisher-Price levels of simple Isn't it literally? 1. Set up tripod stand 2. Load missile 3. Lock in missile 4. Turn on sight 5. Place red dot on target 6. Hit button that spools up missile gyro and fires missile 7. Keep red dot on target as the missile leaves the tube and travels to target
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I've only shot the Eryx wire-guided missile, but if it's anything similar, poo poo gets harder when there's a great deal of target movement involved. Simulator work helps a ton.
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Speaking of Eryx. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=by97YbRFpjM
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