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odiv posted:♦ Time to start speculating on Shivan Reefs.
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bhsman posted:3 is what Mirari costs to Twincast spells, though, and you're also comparing a Mythic Rare to Uncommon in abilities. Obviously MIrrorpool isn't a card they'd want to be as common in draft pools as Foundry. In addition, Foundry creates its creatures regardless of the board state (Mirrorpool's clone is useless if you have nothing to clone), Foundry creates two creatures rather than one, and Foundry creates creatures with evasion even if you have no evasive creatures on the board. Unsurprisingly, they're different effects and drawing a direct comparison is difficult. Mirrorpool has a better upside and worse downside, while Foundry is essentially completely static.
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Nov 18, 2015 18:18
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Wurzag posted:Seems weird that kozilek doesn't have indestructible or a similar ability. I think the idea is that Ulamog is just incredibly tough and doesn't give a gently caress, whereas Kozilek distorts reality to protect itself (via the countering mechanic).
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Nov 18, 2015 18:18
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Wurzag posted:Seems weird that kozilek doesn't have indestructible or a similar ability. He didn't have indestructible on his old card either, though. And he protected himself less than this new one.
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Nov 18, 2015 18:19
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Some Numbers posted:OFS mentioned this. It's the ONLY snow card that doesn't have reminder text.
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Nov 18, 2015 18:24
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Mythic rares would probably be a good candidate for that same treatment. Although I maintain that if the symbol for colorless mana in general is being changed to ♦ (as opposed to (1), which means "any kind of mana") there is no need to put reminder text on any individual card, they'd just have to convey that rules change on a wider level. I can see having a ♦ cost on cards to represent that it must be paid with colorless mana, but why have lands make ♦ when (1) is the same thing?
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Nov 18, 2015 18:28
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The Human Crouton posted:I can see having a ♦ cost on cards to represent that it must be paid with colorless mana, but why have lands make ♦ when (1) is the same thing? The thinking is that the diamond replaces {1} in those cases. If they introduce this symbol as "the colorless symbol" and say that it functions in the same way as "the red symbol" it makes sense.
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Nov 18, 2015 18:31
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Voyager I posted:I'm going to be pissed if Wastes are real and a bunch of good Diamond cards come out that make painlands spike in value, destroying another avenue for cheap dual lands in this loving standard. I'm not because I have 100 of each of them I'd like to move!
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Nov 18, 2015 18:32
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The Human Crouton posted:I can see having a ♦ cost on cards to represent that it must be paid with colorless mana, but why have lands make ♦ when (1) is the same thing? Presumably to emphasize that Colorless mana has its own identity now and drive home that ♦ and (1) are not universally interchangeable.
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Nov 18, 2015 18:32
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Someone posted Kozilek on Aleksi Briclot's Facebook and asked if it was his art.Aleksi Briclot's Facebook posted:It seems to me reality is (not) greatly distorted right now...
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Nov 18, 2015 18:36
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PV being completely unable to comprehend how diamond mana works on twitter, even after having it painstakingly explained over and over, is: funny.
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Nov 18, 2015 18:36
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I mean it's all speculation because there's not really strong evidence, hopes aside, for whether diamond mana is 1. Mana produced by any colorless-only source (makes sense wrt backwards compatibility) 2. Mana produced by diamond-specific sources (makes sense for the sake of simplicity)
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Nov 18, 2015 18:41
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EatinCake posted:All the discussion about a new mana symbol has got me and a buddy talking about 'snowdrazi', and, well
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Nov 18, 2015 18:43
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Zoness posted:2. Mana produced by diamond-specific sources (makes sense for the sake of simplicity) This is the more likely explanation since it's infinitely less dumb A typeless basic producing it still means its hideously fake though.
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Nov 18, 2015 18:44
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The Human Crouton posted:I can see having a ♦ cost on cards to represent that it must be paid with colorless mana, but why have lands make ♦ when (1) is the same thing?  to your mana pool" it means "add colorless mana to your manapool". However, if you see in a cost it doesn't mean "colorless mana", it means "mana of any kind".Under the hypethetical new paradigm ♦ now means "colorless mana" in the same way that  means "green mana". Then can consistently mean "any kind of mana, including but not limited to colorless".
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Nov 18, 2015 18:45
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:This is the more likely explanation since it's infinitely less dumb Yeah I would also think 2 is more likely, assuming that it isn't fake.
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Zoness posted:I mean it's all speculation because there's not really strong evidence, hopes aside, for whether diamond mana is Not any colorless-only source, but actually any colorless mana at all.
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Zoness posted:I mean it's all speculation because there's not really strong evidence, hopes aside, for whether diamond mana is Yeah, he's unable to comprehend why 1) makes any sense, though, when it's trivially easy to understand conceptually.
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Nov 18, 2015 18:45
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The issue with them being fake is that the art is new, fits the style of the credited artists well and includes themes that have been hinted at but not directly displayed in other cards. I think the art at least has to be real.
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Nov 18, 2015 18:54
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mcmagic posted:If this is real, I don't think Kozilek is that good. At least for Standard/Modern. Kozilek's ability is actually pretty good in GR tron. The only removal that can typically kill him in modern are terminate or path. He draws you cards, and tron runs plenty of 1 and 2 cmc spells. Discard this chromatic sphere to counter your path. Would need playtesting of course, but it isn't outright bad by any means. It is gas, and his ability is a protection ability.
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Nov 18, 2015 18:55
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Irony Be My Shield posted:The issue with them being fake is that the art is new, fits the style of the credited artists well and includes themes that have been hinted at but not directly displayed in other cards. I think the art at least has to be real. I recall the fable of the Falkreath Embermage. It was an obviously fake piece of poo poo due to its absurd power level, but it used Flames of Undeath's art.
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Nov 18, 2015 18:56
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jassi007 posted:Kozilek's ability is actually pretty good in GR tron. The only removal that can typically kill him in modern are terminate or path. He draws you cards, and tron runs plenty of 1 and 2 cmc spells. Discard this chromatic sphere to counter your path. Would need playtesting of course, but it isn't outright bad by any means. It is gas, and his ability is a protection ability. I don't think it's better than exiling 2 permanents which is what it has to be better than to see play. (GR Tron is playing 1 Ulamog now...)
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Nov 18, 2015 18:58
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I recall the fable of the Falkreath Embermage. It was an obviously fake piece of poo poo due to its absurd power level, but it used Flames of Undeath's art. That's a different case, though, Flames of Undeath's art had already been spoiled, as far as I can remember.
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Nov 18, 2015 19:00
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The interesting thing about this game mechanic is really if WOTC can manage to actually use it well, since this mechanic already exists as void will in force of will. So far FOW really hasn't done much with it.
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Nov 18, 2015 19:02
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Now you can play colorless commander decks without spending $1500 on land. Thanks Maro, you finally show us what the one true format is
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Nov 18, 2015 19:05
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GonSmithe posted:Someone posted Kozilek on Aleksi Briclot's Facebook and asked if it was his art. This seems like strong evidence for them being real
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Nov 18, 2015 19:06
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stinkles1112 posted:This seems like strong evidence for them being real Mods on mtgsalvation have confirmed that they are real.
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Nov 18, 2015 19:07
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The Human Crouton posted:Mods on mtgsalvation have confirmed that they are real. Via what?
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Nov 18, 2015 19:13
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stinkles1112 posted:This seems like strong evidence for them being real More like it's strong evidence that it's his art, which in fact means that's probably what the new Kozilek card is going to have for art?
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Nov 18, 2015 19:13
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TheKingofSprings posted:Via what? Inside the threads. A usual source confirmed them. They are in the spoiler also. The dropdown for OTG says 0, but if you actually click on it, the three spoiled cards will be there.
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Nov 18, 2015 19:14
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This isn't the first time they've been wrong and had to quietly remove the fakes and hope no one notices! They're fake! *begins sinking in quicksand* They're faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake!
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Nov 18, 2015 19:16
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The Human Crouton posted:Mods on mtgsalvation have confirmed that they are real. But what do the Rockers have to say?
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Mods on mtgsalvation also confirmed ideas unbound as an instant and a rare.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:This isn't the first time they've been wrong and had to quietly remove the fakes and hope no one notices! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs
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Nov 18, 2015 19:21
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Molybdenum posted:Mods on mtgsalvation also confirmed ideas unbound as an instant and a rare. They also confirmed From Beyond as just Awakening Zone that makes Scions, and not with the final card's search ability. I was thinking something just straight-up removed in the last two or three years, but gently caress me if I am going to attempt to look for something that's been memory hole'd.
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Thank you.
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EatinCake posted:All the discussion about a new mana symbol has got me and a buddy talking about 'snowdrazi', and, well Diamondsdiamonddiamonds, whatever. Best post of the new thread.
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Nov 18, 2015 19:38
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:The flavor text is especially rotten. Confirmed real then.
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Nov 18, 2015 19:41
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:They also confirmed From Beyond as just Awakening Zone that makes Scions, and not with the final card's search ability. If you're so confident about it then put the  on it ffs
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Irony Be My Shield posted:The way things are now is weird, we've just played it enough that we don't realize it. If you see "add This sounds like a distinction that could not possibly bother anyone except Maro, so they're probably real and you're probably right.
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