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Nov 18, 2015 21:13
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why wouldn't you use an ide?
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Nov 18, 2015 21:13
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JawnV6 posted:grep -iRl i find it hard to believe that there is not a better way to connect the dots in systemverilog, but i sure haven't found it
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Nov 18, 2015 21:14
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Awia posted:why wouldn't you use an ide? most of the time, programming is about manipulating entire lines and grepping around files, vim/sublime does that faster than any IDE autocomplete is useful but in-file autocompete is enough for 95%+ of tasks and is faster documentation integration is nice when you're learning, but usually you want to search an example to see how to use it well otherwise you don't need the extra overhead and lag as it tries to retrieve docs
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Nov 18, 2015 21:18
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Awia posted:why wouldn't you use an ide? nerd cred 
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Nov 18, 2015 21:19
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:open the terminal, type ag 'foo' Check your Linux privilege, OSlord Eclipse is great. Search -> File will search entire workspace for any mentions of the term, useful for finding non-code and code alike. Click on a method name and CTRL + Shift + G will bring up every occurrence of that method being called CTRL + click on a method name will take you to where that method is defined When debugging, selecting an expression and hitting CTRL + Shift + I to evaluate it quickly
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Nov 18, 2015 21:19
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i've seen a few tools that try to chew up hdl's and try to show a schematic-ish view for what's going on and it's probably like pausing at the kb for two seconds 'feels' faster than reaching for the mouse but they've all been piles of garbage that made me go back to text
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Nov 18, 2015 21:19
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MeruFM posted:most of the time, programming is about manipulating entire lines and grepping around files, vim/sublime does that faster than any IDE DaTroof posted:nerd cred
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Nov 18, 2015 21:20
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yeah, im so good the ide just gets in the way 
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Nov 18, 2015 21:20
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Valeyard posted:Check your Linux privilege, OSlord sublime does 3 of those natively and is fast enough to provide previews on searches vim does them with a plugin
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Nov 18, 2015 21:22
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Awia posted:yeah, im so good the ide just gets in the way if you think the general slowness of IDEs is not a huge turn-off, then i don't know what to say
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Nov 18, 2015 21:23
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vim is garbage and I imagine sublime is too. eclipse is fine and has the best autocomplete. way better than intellij or visual studio even with resharper installed.
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Nov 18, 2015 21:24
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the speediness of vim is totally ruined by the fact that syntax highlighting frequently brings it to a crawl i say this as a vim user
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Nov 18, 2015 21:24
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I did some stuff with signalr. this is rad as gently caress. I cant imagine how id do this with some poo poo tier framework like ruby or python or lmao php.
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Nov 18, 2015 21:25
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Pimp my IDE
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Nov 18, 2015 21:27
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MeruFM posted:if you think the general slowness of IDEs is not a huge turn-off, then i don't know what to say let me just memorise this massive code base and not have autocomplete
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Nov 18, 2015 21:27
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MeruFM posted:sublime does 3 of those natively and is fast enough to provide previews on searches my workflow is so easy though how the gently caress would i open up a remote debug session using sublime rofl sublime also wont tell me when things are wrong, or offer any corrections it would be 10 sstep backwards
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Nov 18, 2015 21:35
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boss gave me a task today "our web monkey team are making web sites for our customers and they mostly do it pretty fast, but they're going real slow when it comes to set up the Magento e-commerce part. since you're slightly less of a retard than them, can you maybe take a bunch of ecommerce platforms for a spin and tell me if they're all terrible or if Magento is especially terrible and we should switch to something else that is less poo poo. kthx" so I think i'm gonna spend three afternoons browsing pornhub on my wifi tethering. what should I tell him afterwards
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Nov 18, 2015 21:46
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St Evan Echoes posted:that sounds good Ya. It's nice when it takes me 20 hours to track down a seemingly simple bug with a 1-line-of-code fix and my boss understands exactly why debugging took 20 hours. I pretty much just do what I need to do and never need to explain myself.
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Nov 18, 2015 21:46
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:you will grow and learn in your career, and develop the tools to fool even the experts into thinking you write code at work
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Nov 18, 2015 22:09
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MeruFM posted:if you think the general slowness of IDEs is not a huge turn-off, then i don't know what to say if text entry is your limiting factor, then I don't know what to say give me GUI breakpoints over kludging up some gdb over JTAG nonsense any day
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Nov 18, 2015 22:17
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:the speediness of vim is totally ruined by the fact that syntax highlighting frequently brings it to a crawl Yeah, most languages don't have this problem, however whenever I'm stuck editing a yaml file the whole thing noticeably crawls, that parser in vim is so god drat slow.
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Nov 18, 2015 22:33
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NetBeans with Emacs keybindings
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Nov 18, 2015 22:39
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fun lua/luajit fact: it has a 1gb memory limit. actually on 32 bit systems it's 4gb, but on 64 bit linux there's only 1gb of mmap'able space available in the lowest 4gb of addresses. if you wanna use more than 1gb of memory, you gotta do it through C and malloc. what's even better is that most big objects in lua are actually torch tensors which do that malloc'ing stuff internally, so you can build a very large program before realising this limitation even exists 
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Nov 18, 2015 22:57
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why would you use lua? that doesn't sound like a fun fact at all
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Nov 18, 2015 22:59
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the neural network libraries are really good
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Nov 18, 2015 23:00
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just use tensorflow
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Nov 18, 2015 23:24
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i use c# and an ide
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Nov 18, 2015 23:26
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Maluco Marinero posted:Yeah, most languages don't have this problem, however whenever I'm stuck editing a yaml file the whole thing noticeably crawls, that parser in vim is so god drat slow. yeah i had to make a custom syntax file for ruby because someone in our codebase wrote a lot of code that just absolutely crushes the default syntax settings. there is some command that will profile the regular expressions so i just did that and then deleted the most offensive ones. it fucks up a lot of highlighting tho so i just have a keybinding that i hit when things start to get bad.
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Nov 18, 2015 23:27
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Valeyard posted:Check your Linux privilege, OSlord cinst ag, idiot
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Nov 18, 2015 23:33
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there seems to be a porblem
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Nov 18, 2015 23:37
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gobs computer
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Nov 18, 2015 23:50
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Dessert Rose posted:cinst ag, idiot
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Nov 18, 2015 23:51
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MeruFM posted:most of the time, programming is about manipulating entire lines and grepping around files, vim/sublime does that faster than any IDE most of the time, programming is about testing interaction with hardware i would't wish gdb breakpoint debugging over jtag on my worst enemy
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Nov 18, 2015 23:54
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JawnV6 posted:most of the time, programming is about testing interaction with hardware this and same except anything involving fpgas
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Nov 18, 2015 23:58
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Shaggar posted:why would you use lua? that doesn't sound like a fun fact at all lua is super easy to integrate, I think Tcl is easier but there is a entire load of no fun.
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Nov 19, 2015 00:22
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Vim is pretty cool + good for a lot of languages / scenarios, but if I was writing Java or C# or something I'd probably just use an IDE.
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Nov 19, 2015 01:50
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IDE's aren't fundamentally worse than vim they Should be much better in general. It's just that every IDE has a terrible, terrible, bloated, cramped, horrifying user interface. If someone made an IDE with a good user interface, it would be much better than vim. DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Nov 19, 2015 |
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Nov 19, 2015 02:46
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code input shouldn't be the long pole in the tent, that's all i'm hearing y'all say
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Nov 19, 2015 02:49
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Vim is godawful. I used it for my entire OS course, which involved implementing basically every part of a kernel, and a bunch of userspace applications. It sucked just as bad at the end as the beginning. The moment your project is more than one file it's an even bigger pain. Even dealing with vb6 is significantly less painful, just by virtue of having an ide debugger and a tree view of the files in the project. Vague intellisense and go to Def is nice too. I could never get that working in vim because the plug in for it for C requires clang and that wasn't available on the school's Linux machines.
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