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My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Nessus posted:

As best as I can tell this is the actual message being transmitted.

The genius of American politics is the ability to hold two seemingly contradictory views without being incorrect. We institutionalize hypocracy and make it a virtue; we don't want no government nicers taking that away from us.

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PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

LowellDND posted:

edit: Look up pictures or information on Angola Prison sometime, you'll get a kick out of how we still have literal plantations.

Look up their loving rodeo. It's something else. I watched a dozen dudes who've never ridden anything in their lives try to stay on a bull so they'd have a shot at the big $50 prize. I thought it was going to be some kind of rehabilitative thing where the convicts learned how to ride horses and do barrel racing and poo poo as therapy, but no it's pretty much just a bunch of dangerous stunts by untrained prisoners.

Yes, the convicts played Cowboy Poker.

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

This is a bit of a tangent but I wanted to ask: how did America's election process become so insanely long?

Loel
Jun 4, 2012

"For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.



PostNouveau posted:

Look up their loving rodeo. It's something else. I watched a dozen dudes who've never ridden anything in their lives try to stay on a bull so they'd have a shot at the big $50 prize. I thought it was going to be some kind of rehabilitative thing where the convicts learned how to ride horses and do barrel racing and poo poo as therapy, but no it's pretty much just a bunch of dangerous stunts by untrained prisoners.

Yes, the convicts played Cowboy Poker.

That I hadn't come across. To add to the hilarity, check out 'California inmate firefighters', its everything you'd expect.

edit: Jesus christ the rodeo is worse than I expected. Goddamn.

Loel fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Nov 19, 2015

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





A good book about prison life in the US is "Life Sentences: Rage and survival behind bars", a collection of articles published in The Angolite, a magazine by Angola prisoners. Got it because of that prison thread years ago.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

William Bear posted:

He kind of evaded the question. Just redirected it to "defining what we're fighting".

His plan to defeat ISIS is great. It's like what Obama's doing now, but he will say "Radical Islam". He says it a few times in the interview. "Radical Islam". "Radical Islam". "Radical Islam".



i mean wouldn't it be more accurate to say radical Wahhabi-ism because that's where the majority of Islamic terrorism calls its home theologically.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

UrbicaMortis posted:

This is a bit of a tangent but I wanted to ask: how did America's election process become so insanely long?

Death of the machines and the rise of television.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Also, its a bit of a bias'd question, since you're asking an election forum why there exists so much information on elections.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

It's the eye of the tig...

quote:

A member of the rock band Survivor is suing Mike Huckabee for copyright infringement over the use of the group’s ubiquitous “Rocky III” hit song, “Eye of the Tiger.”

Rude Music, operated by founding Survivor member and song co-author Frank M. Sullivan III, filed suit in an Illinois federal court Wednesday alleging that the former Arkansas governor violated a copyright in September when he escorted Kentucky county clerk Kim Davis out of the Carter County Detention Center to the “Eye of the Tiger” tune.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/mike-huckabee-kim-davis-216033

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



SnakePlissken posted:

And what do you get when you click the link in that picture?
Spyware would be my guess

richardfun
Aug 10, 2008

Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?

Joementum posted:

Also because it's a good workout. He's lost 15lbs from shouting!

For shame Joe, how could you not quote from that lovely little article.

quote:

As for those who do succumb to weight gain on the campaign trail? Trump says he can guess the reason.

"I have lost weight because my events are so exciting. When I'm done I don't want to eat," he says. "But I could see how it could go the other way for some people. That's only because their events are boring."

Hmm, who could Donald be talking about? It's a mystery...

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

UrbicaMortis posted:

This is a bit of a tangent but I wanted to ask: how did America's election process become so insanely long?

Well, filing to be on a ballot is usually about 2 or 3 months before election day, and for a primary election that means you're officially a candidate a long time before the election. In many places, the primary is basically the election, so the mayor of Philadelphia (a city where democrats outnumber republicans 7 to 1) basically starts campaigning in July of the previous year, has the real election in May and then the formality of the general election the following November. Even our local candidates for small races like city council in towns with less than 100,000 people take 6-8 months of campaigning.

Our elections days are almost always set in stone, our politicians don't call for elections whenever they feel like it, which is how I assume it works in parliament systems, so candidates and political parties work around that schedule, and for bigger races you need to spend time as much time fundraising as you do meeting with voters.

When you get to senators and governors who represent millions, there's alot of hands to kiss, babies to shake and checks to cash. Elections are very much about name recognition so the longer you're out there, the better your chances will be. To most Americans, myself included, it's crazy to think that some countries take 4 or 5 weeks to decide who is going to lead their entire country.

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.

UrbicaMortis posted:

This is a bit of a tangent but I wanted to ask: how did America's election process become so insanely long?

Capitalist Nightmare. The presidential election generates ratings, so there's more of an impetus to start reporting on it the second people start rumbling about it.

EDIT: And no one's watching cable so they're taking the things that still work and squeezing them for all they're worth.

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
PPP National.

Trump 26
Friend Ben 19
Cruz 14
Rubio 13
Jeb! 5
Fiorina/Huckabee 4
Christie/Kasich 3
Paul 2
Graham/Pataki 1

Clinton 59
Sanders 26
O'Malley 7

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

AARP LARPer fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Jan 22, 2016

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
We also have Bloomberg National

Trump 24
Carson 20
Rubio 12
Cruz 9
Not Sure 7
Jeb! 6
Uncommitted 5
Christie 4
Fiorina/Huckabee/Christie 3
Graham/Pataki/Santorum 1

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





Holy poo poo Jeb! is rising!

Abner Cadaver II
Apr 21, 2009

TONIGHT!
So is Cruz/Rubio or Rubio/Cruz a possibility or has Cruz alienated the RNC too much for that?

Who could Cruz pick for veep that'd make his melting-wax-sculpture-of-Joe-McCarthy looks appear attractive in comparison?

sharkbomb
Feb 9, 2005
If Cruz agrees to become Trump's VP then the Republican primary will be OVER.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
Donald Trump will be president.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Cruz has helped fund primary campaigns against his Senate GOP colleagues, called his party's Senate leader a liar on the floor, and is hated by his own colleague from Texas. He's this cycle's version of Newt Gingrich: he can do well for a time because he knows how to work the media and be bombastic in debates, but if he starts doing too well his own party will be all-too-happy to tear him apart.

In the last weeks before the Iowa Caucuses, Romney had a crew for a half dozen of Newt's former House colleagues going around the state telling people what an awful person Newt is.

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar
Cruz is a massive piece of loving poo poo

StevePerry
Sep 5, 2003

don't stop believin
^^^
That's the truth. I imagine him practicing orating in a mirror and rolling his r's.

sharkbomb posted:

If Cruz agrees to become Trump's VP then the Republican primary will be OVER.
I wonder if we could see a "split the pot" situation like in poker? Trump's up in delegates. Cruz is close behind, but with the remaining contests he probably won't be able to bag enough delegates. Cruz posits an exit from the primary to make Trump the de facto nominee in exchange for the VP slot.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Joementum posted:

Cruz has helped fund primary campaigns against his Senate GOP colleagues, called his party's Senate leader a liar on the floor, and is hated by his own colleague from Texas. He's this cycle's version of Newt Gingrich: he can do well for a time because he knows how to work the media and be bombastic in debates, but if he starts doing too well his own party will be all-too-happy to tear him apart.

In the last weeks before the Iowa Caucuses, Romney had a crew for a half dozen of Newt's former House colleagues going around the state telling people what an awful person Newt is.

Stil not sure who the GOP hates more; Trump or Cruz?

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Joementum posted:

Cruz has helped fund primary campaigns against his Senate GOP colleagues, called his party's Senate leader a liar on the floor, and is hated by his own colleague from Texas. He's this cycle's version of Newt Gingrich: he can do well for a time because he knows how to work the media and be bombastic in debates, but if he starts doing too well his own party will be all-too-happy to tear him apart.

In the last weeks before the Iowa Caucuses, Romney had a crew for a half dozen of Newt's former House colleagues going around the state telling people what an awful person Newt is.

Say what you want about Romney, but at least he had enough energy to go after his unworthy opponents.

sharkbomb
Feb 9, 2005
When does Rubio get involved in this election? Is he hoping to emerge from his cocoon a couple weeks before voting begins as the acceptable GOP butterfly?

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

They're probably more scared of the optics of a Trump nomination. But I doubt they want Cruz to ever have the satisfaction of the nom either.

Mahlertov Cocktail
Mar 1, 2010

I ate your Mahler avatar! Hahahaha!

Louisgod posted:

Cruz Pretty much everyone on the GOP slate is a massive piece of loving poo poo

I used to think Kasich was approaching acceptable but that "Judeo-Christian values propaganda" proposal tipped it for me.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Zas posted:

God the CA prison industrial complex is a loving nightmare. How the gently caress did we get here?

California's death row count is so high because they ain't executed a guy since 2006, but kept sentencing more people to death until 2014 when a federal court ruled that the current death penalty system there is unconstitutional.

Since 1978 when California reinstated the death penalty, only 14 of the people sentenced to the death penalty in California have actually been executed (one of them in a different state). 57 of them died of natural causes waiting to be executed, 20 committed suicide, and 6 died of other causes.

In essence, the death penalty in California is "life imprisonment with a 1.5% chance to actually be executed".

UrbicaMortis posted:

This is a bit of a tangent but I wanted to ask: how did America's election process become so insanely long?

The primary cause is the shift starting in the 70s from most of the Presidential primary being conducted by party bigwigs with no outside influence, to being almost entirely conducted by public primary elections, which increasingly forced candidates to spend more time on the campaign trail, and do so earlier and earlier.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
Here are all of Trump's new radio ads:

http://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/category/ads

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



sharkbomb posted:

When does Rubio get involved in this election? Is he hoping to emerge from his cocoon a couple weeks before voting begins as the acceptable GOP butterfly?
His entire strategy so far has been avoiding any conflict and laying low while the others attack each other.

Hopkins FBI
Jan 4, 2015

MY SACRED POSTING VOW IS NOTHING, FOR WHILE I STAKED MY HONOR UPON MY COMMITMENT TO NEVER SUPPORT JOSEPH R. B. JUNIOR I HAVE SCANDALOUSLY ABANDONED MY PRINCIPLES
"I HEAR VOICES IN MY HEAD, THEY TELL ME RUN FOR PRESIDENT, PLEASE VOTE FOR MEEEEEEE" - Rand Orton

Tanith
Jul 17, 2005


Alpha, Beta, Gamma cores
Use them, lose them, salvage more
Kick off the next AI war
In the Persean Sector
Guy who got thrown out of the Trump rally in Worcester was a goon, thought I recognized him.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

quote:

Yahoo News has reported that about half of the approximately 2,000 refugees from Syria who have come to the U.S. so far have been children. Another quarter are more than 60 years old. The Obama administration has maintained that the extensive screening process for these refugees makes the program safe to maintain — not to mention a reflection of America’s core values.

But Trump doesn’t buy it. He also has concerns about the larger Muslim community here in the U.S., he said.

Yahoo News asked Trump whether his push for increased surveillance of American Muslims could include warrantless searches. He suggested he would consider a series of drastic measures.

“We’re going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule,” Trump said. “And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”

Yahoo News asked Trump whether this level of tracking might require registering Muslims in a database or giving them a form of special identification that noted their religion. He wouldn’t rule it out.

“We’re going to have to — we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” Trump said when presented with the idea. “We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/donald-trump-has-big-plans-1303117537878070.html

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





Joementum posted:

Quote of the night, "I mention food stamps, and that guy who's seriously overweight goes crazy" ~ Trump, to a protester at his rally.

Montasque posted:

So far two protestor disruptions. Cops just lead a very large man out.

Now the crowd is chanting USA! USA! USA!

Tanith posted:

Guy who got thrown out of the Trump rally in Worcester was a goon, thought I recognized him.

Checks out.

Moktaro
Aug 3, 2007
I value call my nuts.

Montasque posted:

This making the rounds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYOFyYMegFU

Dana Bash calling Ted Cruz out on being the hypocritical son of a Cuban refugee.

"If I were Commander-In-Chief or if I were elected President..."

Look out, he's planning a coup!

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

Perhaps a tattoo, or a patch.. anything that'll help identify them when they're in public would be nice!

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo

album

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
hey yall, big cruz fan here.... i like how his face always looks like he just pissed his pants

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Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Ben Carson clarification is not winning with Schaivos

quote:

I know all too well how mainstream media can distort and misrepresent good faith remarks," Bobby Schindler wrote in an e-mail to LifeSiteNews. "Still, Dr. Carson's explanation leaves the impression that he remains confused about key aspects of Terri's situation."

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/terri-schiavos-family-pro-life-leaders-not-completely-convinced-by-ben-cars

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