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zoux posted:Did Rubin put up big money on Christie on inTrade or something? she's just a loving idiot
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Nov 19, 2015 16:49
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I don't like people saying this latest Trumpism is a Godwin or whatever. Like, this isn't comparing something he's saying/advocating to something the Nazis did. He's literally calling for the same actions that some of the early Nazis called for. Like, this isn't 'thing A is like thing B' this is 'Thing A IS ALSO thing B'
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Nov 19, 2015 16:50
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Remember, the nazis had some good ideas.
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Nov 19, 2015 16:52
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Nov 19, 2015 16:53
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That looks supremely uncomfortable.
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Nov 19, 2015 16:55
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zoux posted:I don't think Cruz realizes what debating idgaf Obama would be like. He realizes it would boost his cred with the right wing base. Doesn't matter if he'd win or lose the debate, it'd only endear him further to the extreme right. It'd be dumb as hell for Obama to pay any attention to Cruz on this and they both know it.
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Nov 19, 2015 16:56
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N. Senada posted:That looks supremely uncomfortable. chi bello vuole apparire, un pò deve soffrire
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Nov 19, 2015 16:58
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:That's not entirely true. hows that old beach boys song go ? bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb iran!
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Nov 19, 2015 17:01
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baw posted:chi bello vuole apparire, un pò deve soffrire That man does not look good with or without his weird ear mufflers.
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Nov 19, 2015 17:01
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Evil Fluffy posted:He realizes it would boost his cred with the right wing base. Doesn't matter if he'd win or lose the debate, it'd only endear him further to the extreme right. It'd be dumb as hell for Obama to pay any attention to Cruz on this and they both know it. I'm not sure. I think if Obama just clowned on him people would flock to a stronger Tea Party hero. Pretending to be a persecuted minority is intrinsic to the Tea Partier's identity but they want their leaders to be tough manly men so Cruz looking like a fool against the hated Obama wouldn't help his cred. I do think Cruz just calling him out is good for his image but an actual debate wouldn't necessarily be so. Cruz is probably narcissistic enough to think his success at college debate team and winning on technical points would translate well into a real televised debate but I'm not sure if he would actually agree to one since I think he has more to lose than to gain.
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Conservatives must willfully ignore the Truth, lest it infect their malleable brains
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Nov 19, 2015 17:03
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Monkey Fracas posted:Conservatives must willfully ignore the Truth, lest it infect their malleable brains "Reality has a known liberal bias"
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"I can't hear you LALALALALALALA"
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Actually, just noticed that Obama was clearly photoshopped on. Looked around and found a Snopes page about the picture. http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/earflap.asp Turns out it was originally a picture of an army vet at a GWB veteran's event back in 2005. edit: not rally, vet event
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Nov 19, 2015 17:12
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^ So that guy is likely dead and he's being used for an agenda. Evil Fluffy posted:He realizes it would boost his cred with the right wing base. Doesn't matter if he'd win or lose the debate, it'd only endear him further to the extreme right. It'd be dumb as hell for Obama to pay any attention to Cruz on this and they both know it. What if Clinton took the offer?
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Nov 19, 2015 17:19
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:hows that old beach boys song go ? bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb iran! That's substantively different from stirring up Islamphobia.
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Nov 19, 2015 17:19
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computer parts posted:You don't remember "Nuke Mecca"? Mecca, being in Saudi Arabia where the 9/11 hijackers were from, would have been a more appropriate response than invading iraq. A good bumper sticker
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Nov 19, 2015 17:19
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What's with the whole "homeless veterans before refugees" talking point? I've heard it trotted out at work about a dozen times this week. Is it just a way to give the impression of being compassionate while secretly having some pretty uncompassionate opinions?
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Locobono posted:What's with the whole "homeless veterans before refugees" talking point? I've heard it trotted out at work about a dozen times this week. Is it just a way to give the impression of being compassionate while secretly having some pretty uncompassionate opinions? Because the GOP/Tea Party are the 'Support Our Troops' crowd, even though the overwhelming amount of GOP members vote against Veterans issues time and again, and actively strip away Veterans benefits. Because basically, if you support refugees you support terrorists and you are supporting terrorists over 'ARE TROOPS' even though these morons don't give a poo poo about veterans.
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Nov 19, 2015 17:27
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Radish posted:I'm not sure. I think if Obama just clowned on him people would flock to a stronger Tea Party hero. No, Fluffy's right. Remember that there's a significant portion of people who believe that Ryan beat Biden in the VP debate and that Hillary got schooled by the Benghazi committee. Cruz would win by virtue of existing, even if Obama literally put Teddy over his knee and spanked him on live TV. Even absolute worst case, he would 'have courage' and get a poll boost from that.
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Nov 19, 2015 17:27
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zoux posted:I hope Joementum can forgive me for posting Erik Erikson links but: Erik Erikson is American so for me this is true. And I hate ISIS a whole bunch
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"I'm no fan of Cruz, but boy did Obama disgrace the office of the Presidency by..."
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:That's substantively different from stirring up Islamphobia.
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:the joke has aged, but not matured. Like a quarter wedge of cheese from a year ago that you found hidden behind a refridgerator drawer.
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Nov 19, 2015 17:45
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First step in Hillary's plan to defeat ISIS: defeat ISIS!  
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CommieGIR posted:Because the GOP/Tea Party are the 'Support Our Troops' crowd, even though the overwhelming amount of GOP members vote against Veterans issues time and again, and actively strip away Veterans benefits. It's the Moving Goalposts of Empathy. I don't care about group X, why aren't we looking after group Y more? I mean you proposed helping group Y, but what about group Z? In Finland it's been "We don't want swarthy young men from Iraq, we want women and children from Syria." Once it was women and children from Syria, it was "What about homeless Finnish people?"
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Joementum posted:First step in Hillary's plan to defeat ISIS: defeat ISIS! 
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Nov 19, 2015 17:50
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FAUXTON posted:That's because the Quran lays out a fairly conservative tax code as long as you're a Muslim. From what (very) little I've read about Islamic finance it owns. Gambling on bad things happening to people is forbidden so the community must come together to help  Really Islam does a lot of rad things, it's just some desperate goobers in very bleak countries have co-opted the oh hi Mr. FBI Dude I was just posting some complementary things about Isla
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Tempest_56 posted:No, Fluffy's right. Remember that there's a significant portion of people who believe that Ryan beat Biden in the VP debate and that Hillary got schooled by the Benghazi committee. Cruz would win by virtue of existing, even if Obama literally put Teddy over his knee and spanked him on live TV. Even absolute worst case, he would 'have courage' and get a poll boost from that. That would be the case if Cruz was the only option. They rallied behind Ryan since he was the nominee and they couldn't admit defeat. If Obama had a better performance than primary candidate Cruz in a debate they certainly would try and pretend that didn't happen or how it was unfair but he would start dropping in the polls and they would be looking for a stronger guy since that's all they respect. Paul Ryan is a RINO now since he failed.
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Nov 19, 2015 17:52
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liberals would declare obama the victor and conservatives would declare cruz the victor. i don't think undecideds exist nowadays so a debate between those two would serve no other purpose than to give each other airtime. obama can do that at will, and cruz can't. why help cruz garner attention?
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Nov 19, 2015 17:54
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Ron Jeremy posted:Mecca, being in Saudi Arabia where the 9/11 hijackers were from, would have been a more appropriate response than invading iraq.
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so here's your list of Republican Legislative Ideas to Solve a Totally Not Real Problem Rep. Mike McCaul (R-Tex.): The American Security Against Foreign Enemies Act of 2015 The official vehicle of the House Republicans, which would add new layers to refugee background checks. Among them are "a thorough background investigation" by the FBI, an analysis by the Department of Homeland Security, and a monthly report on who's been let in. The refugees covered include anyone who "has been present in Iraq or Syria at any time on or after March 1, 2011." Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.): The Terrorist Refugee Infiltration Prevention Act of 2015 Introduced Wednesday night, Cruz's bill is written to block any refugee who is "a national of, has habitually resided in, or is claiming refugee status due to events in" a country with substantial territory controlled "by a Foreign Terrorist Organization, as designated by the State Department." Cruz's much-criticized (but potentially popular) exception for Christians is intended to be covered by a line allowing a refugee to enter the United States if he "is a member of a group that has been designated by the Secretary of State or by an Act of Congress as a victim of genocide." Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.): an amendment to the Transportation, Housing, and Urban Development Appropriations Act Rolled out Monday — before Cruz's bill, as Paul's team would be first to point out — this bill would prohibit any funds being used to "provide or administer assistance to aliens admitted" from any of the following nations: Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Egypt, Eritrea, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Libya, Mali, Morocco, Nigeria, North Korea, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Yemen, and "the Palestinian Territories." Sen. David Vitter (R-La.): The Syrian Refugee Verification and Safety Act of 2015 Vitter, who has been lagging far behind in his race for governor of Louisiana, quickly seized on the issue of refugee resettlement and pledged to stop it if elected. (There are serious legal questions about whether that's even possible). His bill would "suspend the admission and resettlement of aliens seeking refugee status because of the conflict in Syria until adequate protocols are established to protect the national security of the United States." Unlike Paul, Vitter does not delineate the countries affected; unlike Cruz, he does not provide an exception for any specific group of people. And while the legislation establishes a multi-stage process by which the Obama administration could prove that it is vetting refugees, it would subject its proof to a congressional disapproval vote. Vitter also asks for "the identity of the aliens admitted to the United States as refugees since 2001 who subsequently engaged in criminal or terrorist conduct." Rep. Ted Yoho (R-Fla.): The Give States a Chance Act of 2015 A short attempt to fix the potential legal issues with the mass revolt of governors against refugee resettlement; it would "authorize the Governor of any State in which it is proposed to place or resettle a Syrian refugee to refuse such placement or resettlement if the Governor makes certain certifications." Rep. Brian Babin (R-Tex.): The Refugee Resettlement Accountability National Security Act of 2015 The Texas freshman's legislation predates the current panic by four months, and would prevent the admission of any "alien under section 207 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1157) until such time as Congress passes a joint resolution giving the Secretary authority to resume admitting aliens under such section." As Babin has said since this weekend, his bill would fully halt any new refugees arriving from Iraq and Syria — a position he is ready to defend against anyone. Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/19/a-quick-guide-to-the-gop-bills-that-would-bar-middle-east-refugees/
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SCREENSHOT OF A POLITICAL TWEET
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zoux posted:
You posted in the wrong thread, boyo
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Whoops! Before everyone gets terribly worried about this hate legislation, a reporter I follow on twitter was on a conference call with Cornyn yesterday where he said none of these bills are going to move in either chamber. zoux fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Nov 19, 2015 |
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.): an amendment to the Transportation, Housing, and Urban Development Appropriations Act Noted Islamic nations Russia and North Korea.
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zoux posted:Did Rubin put up big money on Christie on inTrade or something? Intrade don't exist no more, shut down by the feds. PredictIt is where it's at now and it's pretty easy money
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