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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:https://twitter.com/AthenaCNN/status/667393016210976768 Armstrong Williams, hmm that name sounds familiar...oh yeah, he's that guy! quote:"No Child Left Behind" controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armstrong_Williams
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Guy A. Person posted:Christ, this is the same exact meme as you see when there's talk about raising the minimum wage: Not to mention that all of those look exclusively at base pay and utterly loving ignore the free healthcare and either free housing and food or, if of rank or dependent status not to be in barracks housing, substantial tax-free housing and food allotments. I wouldn't be very supportive of minimum wage hikes if all minimum wage jobs also gave out zip code-adjusted tax-free housing pay. The lowest rate in the military for brand-new military members in the cheapest part of the country is around $12,000 per year for rent and food. Tax free. For a junior enlisted military member, if they live off post their housing/food allotment could easily exceed 50% of their total pay depending on where they live. And then there's the free tuition assistance and other benefits. I get all kinds of irritated when military members essentially lie about their total compensation to try to put down low-pay workers.
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Nov 19, 2015 19:44
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Some of this stuff actually looks good and ethical. Maybe this is what the right truly fears? They'd give up bacon way before exploitative financial maneuvering mlmp08 posted:Not to mention that all of those look exclusively at base pay and utterly loving ignore the free healthcare and either free housing and food or, if of rank or dependent status not to be in barracks housing, substantial tax-free housing and food allotments. I wouldn't be very supportive of minimum wage hikes if all minimum wage jobs also gave out zip code-adjusted tax-free housing pay. The lowest rate in the military for brand-new military members in the cheapest part of the country is around $12,000 per year for rent and food. Tax free. I love the irony of the mil / ex-mil crowd crowing obamacare nonsense while benefiting from the most centralized and subsidized pay and benefits system in the country. That said, there are significant downsides you don't get from a regular lovely job, like having no choice in where you live, what you do, and which mind altering substances you're allowed to use to escape all the horror. Locobono fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Nov 19, 2015 |
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Nov 19, 2015 19:46
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Trumps  pretty much confirms my thinking that he's nothing more than a troll trying to say more and more ridiculous poo poo to see how far it can go while magically still shooting up in polls. There's no other explanation.zoux posted:You tell that to This American Hero, Buddy. Been seeing a lot of this myself. Plenty of stuff about POOR AND STARVING AMERICAN CHILDREN too. Funny how nobody seems to give a gently caress about them outside of this one instance. Wouldn't want those loving leeches getting MY TAX DOLLARS otherwise.
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Nov 19, 2015 19:48
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Pew released a study today that showed that more Mexicans actually left the US for Mexico than immigrated north in the past six years. 
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Nov 19, 2015 19:49
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zoux posted:Pew released a study today that showed that more Mexicans actually left the US for Mexico than immigrated north in the past six years. They listened to Romney
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Nov 19, 2015 19:51
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mlmp08 posted:Not to mention that all of those look exclusively at base pay and utterly loving ignore the free healthcare and either free housing and food or, if of rank or dependent status not to be in barracks housing, substantial tax-free housing and food allotments. I wouldn't be very supportive of minimum wage hikes if all minimum wage jobs also gave out zip code-adjusted tax-free housing pay. The lowest rate in the military for brand-new military members in the cheapest part of the country is around $12,000 per year for rent and food. Tax free. The worst of them are the dual military couples that pull in all of these compensations twice and still say they get paid poo poo. Like, two E-5s being married out here near Camp Pendleton can easily pull in over $7500 a month just off base pay and BAH.
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Nov 19, 2015 19:53
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mlmp08 posted:Not to mention that all of those look exclusively at base pay and utterly loving ignore the free healthcare and either free housing and food or, if of rank or dependent status not to be in barracks housing, substantial tax-free housing and food allotments. I wouldn't be very supportive of minimum wage hikes if all minimum wage jobs also gave out zip code-adjusted tax-free housing pay. The lowest rate in the military for brand-new military members in the cheapest part of the country is around $12,000 per year for rent and food. Tax free. i would be 100% in support of a minimum wage hike that also gave out zip code adjusted tax free housing
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Nov 19, 2015 19:53
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I once had a client who was on active duty who got sued for child support. No one could figure out what he actually earned in the context of normal salaries and wages.
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Nov 19, 2015 19:54
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Evil Fluffy posted:He realizes it would boost his cred with the right wing base. Doesn't matter if he'd win or lose the debate, it'd only endear him further to the extreme right. It'd be dumb as hell for Obama to pay any attention to Cruz on this and they both know it. I think a light-hearted scoffing would play well with people outside the bubble but yeah. Or he could just let Biden mock his muscle porn. 
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Nov 19, 2015 19:58
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Apparently United Healthcare is threatening to withdraw from Obamacare due to 'lowered projected earnings'.
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Nov 19, 2015 19:59
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CommieGIR posted:Apparently United Healthcare is threatening to withdraw from Obamacare due to 'lowered projected earnings'. Best healthcare system in the world.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:01
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Nov 19, 2015 20:01
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Walter Jones, the NC Rep who came up with "Freedom Fries" back in 2003, was one of those two "no" votes on the GOP side. The bill wasn't conservative enough for his tastes, natch.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:02
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CommieGIR posted:Apparently United Healthcare is threatening to withdraw from Obamacare due to 'lowered projected earnings'. Great news!
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Nov 19, 2015 20:02
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In the face of great pressure, the cowards become most obvious.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:03
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CommieGIR posted:Apparently United Healthcare is threatening to withdraw from Obamacare due to 'lowered projected earnings'. What does "withdraw from Obamacare" even mean? Are they just going to stop issuing insurance policies altogether?  a bloo bloo bloo we aren't making obscene profits off the sick anymore we're done with this!!
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Nov 19, 2015 20:03
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zoux posted:Pew released a study today that showed that more Mexicans actually left the US for Mexico than immigrated north in the past six years. Why is there a 5 year gap and why two two of the data points include overlapping timeframes? 
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Nov 19, 2015 20:07
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euphronius posted:I once had a client who was on active duty who got sued for child support. Sounds like he didn't feel like sharing his annual personal statement of military compensation. It tallies up your wages, tax savings, and some other benefits. It also splits up direct compensation vs indirect benefits like said tax savings, subsidized grocery items at the commissary, legal services, etc.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:08
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Oh no we had his stubs and tax returns.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:09
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fknlo posted:Trumps People are way off on comparing Trump to Hitler, I mean there are definitely traces there, but just watch literally any documentary on Mussolini and halfway through you'll forget you're watching something about an Italian dictator from 90 years ago.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:10
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a shameful boehner posted:What does "withdraw from Obamacare" even mean? Are they just going to stop issuing insurance policies altogether?
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Nov 19, 2015 20:11
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Note that 289 is one vote short of two thirds of the total vote count.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:12
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Joementum posted:Note that 289 is one vote short of two thirds of the total vote count. Doesn't matter, no way this is getting 66 votes in the Senate.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:15
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Joementum posted:Note that 289 is one vote short of two thirds of the total vote count. Pook Good Mook posted:Doesn't matter, no way this is getting 66 votes in the Senate. Still, gently caress this Congress to the ends of the Earth.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:16
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Joementum posted:Walter Jones, the NC Rep who came up with "Freedom Fries" back in 2003, was one of those two "no" votes on the GOP side. The other Republican "no" vote on this was Steve King of Iowa. I'm gonna go waaaaaay out of a limb here and guess that he might want even more restrictions on refugees / immigrants.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:18
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Joementum posted:The other Republican "no" vote on this was Steve King of Iowa. I'm gonna go waaaaaay out of a limb here and guess that he might want even more restrictions on refugees / immigrants. Fun fact, Steve King has never had a sponsored bill ever get out of committee and put to a vote.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:22
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Locobono posted:Some of this stuff actually looks good and ethical. Maybe this is what the right truly fears? They'd give up bacon way before exploitative financial maneuvering Oh, no worries there, Islamic Banking is almost entirely a farce, you basically pay extra for a conventional banking service that they then go through a bunch of logical gymnastics to determine that it's not "interest" and pay a hideously wealthy scholar to sign off on it. Reading mainstream econ lit on it is hilarious, it's basically "it's good that these institutions are getting these superstitious simpletons to inject their capital into the glorious world economy, even if it's patently dishonest".
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Nov 19, 2015 20:24
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JT Jag posted:Move to company and non-subsidized premium plans only, I'd guess? That's my take on it. /shrug
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Nov 19, 2015 20:24
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Quote of the day, “We’ll crucify them.” ~ Anonymous House GOP aide, on what they will do to Senate Democrats who oppose the refugees bill. Maaaaaaaybe not the best word to use.....
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Nov 19, 2015 20:25
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zoux posted:It's actually more like 50k. But homeless people are extremely difficult to count accurately. Obama had some initiative to help get them off of the street that supposedly cut the previous number of homeless vets in half, but I never actually looked anything up about it.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:27
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Joementum posted:Note that 289 is one vote short of two thirds of the total vote count. Is this under a special rule or something? Or did it just work out to be almost a supermajority?
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Nov 19, 2015 20:29
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zoux posted:Is this under a special rule or something? Or did it just work out to be almost a supermajority? It would certainly be vetoed, and a 2/3 majority would override. But you need 2/3 in both houses, and the pox hasn't spread that far yet.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:30
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OAquinas posted:It would certainly be vetoed, and a 2/3 majority would override. Oh right duh.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:30
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zoux posted:Is this under a special rule or something? Or did it just work out to be almost a supermajority? Well, turns out it was "veto-proof" anyway since only 426 members voted, but the vote on the rule passed earlier because the Democrats reached a compromise on attaching it to a softer proposal.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:30
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pathetic little tramp posted:People are way off on comparing Trump to Hitler, I mean there are definitely traces there, but just watch literally any documentary on Mussolini and halfway through you'll forget you're watching something about an Italian dictator from 90 years ago. They even do the same sort of facial expressions/have the same-shaped head; it's great. Also both fond of putting their personal symbols on the biggest buildings they can find/build. 
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Nov 19, 2015 20:31
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Joementum posted:Well, turns out it was "veto-proof" anyway since only 426 members voted, but the vote on the rule passed earlier because the Democrats reached a compromise on attaching it to a softer proposal. Veto override is 2/3s of the total membership, not 2/3s of present voting members?
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Nov 19, 2015 20:34
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:lol house dems are pissed that Obama/WH wouldn't give them cover on the refugee bill Joementum posted:I also learned from this that the Blue Dog Caucus still exists and has 15 members! This went right over my head. Is it a reference to the Democrats that wanted to vote for the bills? Did they really believe Obama was going to cover their rear end after what he said at the G20? Is there a news story on it; specifically about the 15 referenced by Jomentum? I found a Vox article but it I'd be interested in knowing more.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:34
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gently caress it, deport the Republicans and Blue Dogs to Syria, replace them with refugees.
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El Anansi posted:Oh, no worries there, Islamic Banking is almost entirely a farce, you basically pay extra for a conventional banking service that they then go through a bunch of logical gymnastics to determine that it's not "interest" and pay a hideously wealthy scholar to sign off on it. Reading mainstream econ lit on it is hilarious, it's basically "it's good that these institutions are getting these superstitious simpletons to inject their capital into the glorious world economy, even if it's patently dishonest". Source your quotes.
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