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nachos posted:Trump is openly advocating for a Muslim database so I guess yeah you're right he isn't beholden to establishment policy My friend/acquaintance who's basically the next generation of GOP establishment literally compared the Donald to a Nazi about that database. Dude really doesn't like Trump.
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nachos posted:Trump is openly advocating for a Muslim database so I guess yeah you're right he isn't beholden to establishment policy Not really. Some idiot reporter asked him if he would support one and he said his usual. "We're gonna do everything great and it's gonna be amazing and spectacular" shtick.
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Boon posted:Hillary is hawkish, but so is Obama and I don't think she'd be very much different. Also, her domestic record is pretty good if you take her stance on regulating the financial sector out of the picture. Outside of her saying glass-steagal isn't needed, her views on Wall Street are a lot tougher than people give her credit for, to be honest. On FP, I think she's more naturally inclined to intervene than Obama, but certainly less than any of her Republican competitors.
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mcmagic posted:Not really. Some idiot reporter asked him if he would support one and he said his usual. "We're gonna do everything great and it's gonna be amazing and spectacular" shtick. That's not really all that different. I mean, any rational person should have a better answer to "do you support internment camps" than "that sounds like something we should be considering." For example, "No." Trump got stumped.
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mcmagic posted:Not really. Some idiot reporter asked him if he would support one and he said his usual. "We're gonna do everything great and it's gonna be amazing and spectacular" shtick. quote:"I would certainly implement that. Absolutely," Trump said in Newton, Iowa, in between campaign town halls. That's more than just a vague "we will win so much it hurts" Plus it's too late, he's already getting backlash and will almost certainly double down and crystallize those thoughts
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mcmagic posted:Not really. Some idiot reporter asked him if he would support one and he said his usual. "We're gonna do everything great and it's gonna be amazing and spectacular" shtick. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/20/donald-trump-would-certainly-and-absolutely-create-a-database-of-muslims/ quote:Trump said the government should use "a lot of systems, beyond databases" to track Muslims, prevent illegal immigrants from entering the country and keep the nation safe. He added that he would employ "good management procedures" to get Muslims signed up for the database, although he did not say who would need to register under such a system and what penalties they might face for refusing. Although you might just be thinking about the day prior where that is pretty much the stance he took: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...erican-muslims/ quote:"We're going to have to do things that we never did before. Some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule,” Trump told Yahoo News in an interview published Thursday. “And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:That's not really all that different. I mean, any rational person should have a better answer to "do you support internment camps" than "that sounds like something we should be considering." For example, "No." But why would he say that when he can let people hear what they want to hear?
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:This has already been commented on multiple times, but it can't be overstated: The media will use this to disarm this issue and push the idea that democrats are racist tooooo at the liberal left.
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What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck? What country do I live in anymore? Is this real life?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Outside of her saying glass-steagal isn't needed, her views on Wall Street are a lot tougher than people give her credit for, to be honest. Trump is also a lot more Wall Street friendly than people give him credit for. He wants to let companies repatriate their foreign tax haven cash hoards at a much reduced tax rate. That cash basically will go straight into the pockets of Wall Street in the form of higher dividends and stock buybacks while doing jack for the American worker.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:This has already been commented on multiple times, but it can't be overstated: I just want to ask my VA brothers and sisters down in the Roanoke area, what are the chances this jerkwad gets ousted from the left purely because of this?
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Shifty Pony posted:Trump is also a lot more Wall Street friendly than people give him credit for. He wants to let companies repatriate their foreign tax haven cash hoards at a much reduced tax rate. That cash basically will go straight into the pockets of Wall Street in the form of higher dividends and stock buybacks while doing jack for the American worker. Well, there's some merit to coming up with ways to get companies (which aren't entirely Wall Street) to stop stashing away millions of dollars off-shore (I am looking at you Apple) and instead invest that money or give it back to their stockholders, but his idea kind of misses the point.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Well, there's some merit to coming up with ways to get companies (which aren't entirely Wall Street) to stop stashing away millions of dollars off-shore (I am looking at you Apple) and instead invest that money or give it back to their stockholders, but his idea kind of misses the point. I thought they're already taxed on income anyway, so any cash reserves they have are just them not paying back dividends. They could invest however much they wanted at any time.
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AlternateNu posted:I just want to ask my VA brothers and sisters down in the Roanoke area, what are the chances this jerkwad gets ousted from the left purely because of this? There have been calls for his resignation: http://www.roanoke.com/news/local/r...0930bf9efd.html Glad he's already been pulled from Clinton campaign though: http://abcnews.go.com/US/virginia-mayor-japanese-internment-defend-blocking-refugees/story?id=35291587
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Yeah we did the tax holiday thing during the Bush admin in order to spur investment. Surprise surprise almost all of the repatriated funds went to shareholders and corporate bigwigs. But hey, THIS time our corporate overlords will be magnanimous with their sudden windfall.
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Litany Unheard posted:Yeah we did the tax holiday thing during the Bush admin in order to spur investment. Surprise surprise almost all of the repatriated funds went to shareholders and corporate bigwigs. Kinda like the Bank bailout and the Economic stimulus for Banks that they then just sat on.
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Tiler Kiwi posted:I've never been called to jury duty, which is sad since I'd probably enjoy it. There are always civil cases 
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computer parts posted:I thought they're already taxed on income anyway, so any cash reserves they have are just them not paying back dividends. They could invest however much they wanted at any time. They have money off-shore that they're not being taxed on, and they're keeping it that way because they don't want to pay taxes on it. It's a pretty standard practice at the moment.
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MODESTO, Calif. (AP) — He strutted, he gobbled and he puffed up his feathers like his life depended on it. And it did. The turkey's outgoing personality and good looks helped spare him from the Thanksgiving plate. The bird, named Tom One, was chosen for a presidential pardon from a dozen finalists Thursday at a Northern California farm. The bird will board a flight called Turkey One in San Francisco to head to the White House ceremony with President Barack Obama ahead of the holiday. After that, he will be sent to live at a farm in Virginia.
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Joementum posted:MODESTO, Calif. (AP) — He strutted, he gobbled and he puffed up his feathers like his life depended on it. And it did. Can we stop this already?
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CommieGIR posted:Kinda like the Bank bailout and the Economic stimulus for Banks that they then just sat on. TARP, while wickedly unpopular, was likely needed to stabilize the financial sector. Optics aside it was a good idea. It's just, it never should have been needed in the first place.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Can we stop this already? Do you think the bird was wrongly appealed?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Can we stop this already? Another criminal loose on our streets! 
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Can we stop this already? How do we know this turkey is not ISIS
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Gravel Gravy posted:Do you think the bird was wrongly appealed? I think pardoning grossly unhealthy Turkey's is a really dumb.
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PUGGERNAUT posted:How do we know this turkey is not ISIS lmao that's a good point.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:TARP, while wickedly unpopular, was likely needed to stabilize the financial sector. Optics aside it was a good idea. It's just, it never should have been needed in the first place. The US taxpayer made a profit on TARP.
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Live the rest of your life out at a farm Tom, you deserve it.
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AfroLine posted:Live the rest of your life out at a farm Tom, you deserve it. Like two more months! When you die in pain and agony of congestive heart failure!
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I think pardoning grossly unhealthy Turkey's is a really dumb. Never thought we'd see someone advocating for government death panels, but here we are.
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Gravel Gravy posted:Never thought we'd see someone advocating for government death panels, but here we are.  The Glorious Revolution supports them, comrade Gravel.
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It is important to note that millions of turkeys are consumed each year in America. Even though one slips through the cracks we can't let it change who we are.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Can we stop this already? It's a fun little tradition that spoofs the Nation-State's power over life and death  - kind of like daylight savingsIf we abolished the death penalty it would be dumb to keep around.
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Nov 20, 2015 15:28
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Like two more months! When you die in pain and agony of congestive heart failure! It probably gets real cold out there
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Can we stop this already? Obama should pull a West Wing and draft the turkey into military service. OUR TROOPS  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ytyaBVNrE
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Can we stop this already?
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Mr. Wookums posted:You don't want to be the president that forgets what Thanksgiving is truly about. Stealing from the natives?
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Here, have an article about how the children of the elite in Silicon Valley are all killing themselves for some reason that nobody can understand because why aren't you in Harvard yet you stupid bastard. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/12/the-silicon-valley-suicides/413140/ quote:The 10-year suicide rate for the two high schools is between four and five times the national average. Starting in the spring of 2009 and stretching over nine months, three Gunn students, one incoming freshman, and one recent graduate had put themselves in front of an oncoming Caltrain. Another recent graduate had hung himself. While the intervening years had been quieter, they had not been comforting. School counselors remained “overwhelmed and overloaded” with an influx of kids considered high risk, says Roni Gillenson, who has helped oversee Gunn’s mental-health program since 2006. Twelve percent of Palo Alto high-school students surveyed in the 2013–14 school year reported having seriously contemplated suicide in the past 12 months. This is the natural endpoint of all the masturbation over STEM schools and STEM classes and STEM STEM STEM. Nobody can have any fun because fun is suboptimal compared to writing apps for your resume so you can get into the top colleges. And if you get a B in chemistry you'll never get into Super Ultra Tech School with an internship with Giant Tech Corp and you might as well step in front of a CalTrain.
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computer parts posted:Stealing from the natives? 
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Luigi Thirty posted:This is the natural endpoint of all the masturbation over STEM schools and STEM classes and STEM STEM STEM. Nobody can have any fun because fun is suboptimal compared to writing apps for your resume so you can get into the top colleges. And if you get a B in chemistry you'll never get into Super Ultra Tech School with an internship with Giant Tech Corp and you might as well step in front of a CalTrain. I don't think this has anything to do with emphasis on STEM, but more to do with emphasis on grades over knowledge and commitment. We've called schools out on this for decades, for emphasizing test scores over work quality and commitment. We need to start to move away from the demand of high grades or no grad, because we're kneecapping our country.
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I'm pushing my kid into liberal arts. He can like, write journal articles about obscure vaudeville performers or something.
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