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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

pig slut lisa posted:

Why did he want to leave his CU, and how did he get that far without any credit history. Is "borderline retarded" literal and he's always had family take care of his finances or something?

He got charged a fee he disagree with. But yeah, he used to live on his own and had a locksmith business, but was never quiet all there and for the last decade just lived with his mother, getting weirder and weirder while his credit history got smaller and smaller.

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Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

The broker is the one BWM here, since they let him actually do this without having an automated limit in place to auto-fulfill his order once he hit -10k with no collateral in lieu of eating the 100k they'll almost certainly swallow when they realize this guy has zero assets.

BEHOLD: MY CAPE
Jan 11, 2004

Volmarias posted:

The broker is the one BWM here, since they let him actually do this without having an automated limit in place to auto-fulfill his order once he hit -10k with no collateral in lieu of eating the 100k they'll almost certainly swallow when they realize this guy has zero assets.

The fundamental issue with a short squeeze is that limit orders can go unfilled due to rapid price changes and illiquidity, and it appears this fool had to cover at a ridiculous price in a panic

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!
"Heh, index funds. I'm way smarter than that. I'm gonna beat the market." :smugdog:

Like, assuming he doesn't have 110k in assets (he probably doesn't), what happens? Do they get to garnish his wages? Can he discharge that in bankruptcy?

BEHOLD: MY CAPE
Jan 11, 2004

Nail Rat posted:

"Heh, index funds. I'm way smarter than that. I'm gonna beat the market." :smugdog:

Like, assuming he doesn't have 110k in assets (he probably doesn't), what happens? Do they get to garnish his wages? Can he discharge that in bankruptcy?

It's just debt like anything else and you owe it basically no matter what. There have been some terrible cases of automatic margin calls and algorithmic liquidations occurring in wacky volatile trading causing traders to get completely wiped out worse than that guy's short sale, and it's pretty much too bad so sad.

BEHOLD: MY CAPE fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Nov 20, 2015

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!

BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:

It's just debt like anything else and you owe it basically no matter what.

So it's more like student loan debt, rather than "anything else?"

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar
Sounds like someone might need a new thread:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3270178&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=700#post452880340

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Nail Rat posted:

So it's more like student loan debt, rather than "anything else?"

No, you can discharge a short sale debt in bankruptcy, I believe.

r0ck0
Sep 12, 2004
r0ck0s p0zt m0d3rn lyf

BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:

It's just debt like anything else and you owe it basically no matter what. There have been some terrible cases of automatic margin calls and algorithmic liquidations occurring in wacky volatile trading causing traders to get completely wiped out worse than that guy's short sale, and it's pretty much too bad so sad.

Everything I know about short selling I learned from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trading_Places

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
The new guy at work is straight out of college. His hobby is renting exotic cars for $1,000/day and just driving them around town (especially cruising around the college campus). He does this as often as he can, probably 10 times a year or more.

I'm estimating that's probably 25% or more of his takehome pay for this goony dude to pretend to be a classy rich guy. :smith:

fac53
Oct 22, 2002
At last! A dead star!

canyoneer posted:

The new guy at work is straight out of college. His hobby is renting exotic cars for $1,000/day and just driving them around town (especially cruising around the college campus). He does this as often as he can, probably 10 times a year or more.

I'm estimating that's probably 25% or more of his takehome pay for this goony dude to pretend to be a classy rich guy. :smith:

I work with a guy who crashed his Hyundai Genesis while driving recklessly and is now talking about leasing either a Jaguar or a Tesla. He's 22, lives with his parents, and makes around $40k.

BEHOLD: MY CAPE
Jan 11, 2004

Nail Rat posted:

So it's more like student loan debt, rather than "anything else?"

No, sorry, it's regular debt but in your brokerage account agreement you signed away all liability for market conditions, technical glitches, unfavorable forced liquidations, or any other theory that you think might get you out paying for a huge loss in a short squeeze.

BEHOLD: MY CAPE fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Nov 20, 2015

BEHOLD: MY CAPE
Jan 11, 2004

canyoneer posted:

The new guy at work is straight out of college. His hobby is renting exotic cars for $1,000/day and just driving them around town (especially cruising around the college campus). He does this as often as he can, probably 10 times a year or more.

I'm estimating that's probably 25% or more of his takehome pay for this goony dude to pretend to be a classy rich guy. :smith:

Too bad, because for $10,000/year net cost of ownership you can actually own a variety of really nice luxury or exotic cars

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
Dear financial advice column, we earn ₤190,000 a year and spunk it up the wall. Please advise.

quote:

By most measures Adam and Megan Brownson would be considered very affluent.

Their respective careers - in management consultancy and personal injury law - give them a joint income of £190,000. The couple also own two properties with a combined value of more than £1m, putting them in the wealthiest 1pc of households in Britain.

But the pair are worried about becoming “financially broken” as the sheer cost of middle-class life in London means they are stretched to the brink. They spend everything they earn – and more.

We own ₤1 million in property and somehow have had to put ₤8,000 onto a credit card to pay for our lifestyles.

quote:

Having both been privately educated themselves, Adam and Megan are keen for the girls to have the same experience, and have signed them up to two private primary schools nearby.

Both have fees of around £4,000 a term, meaning that by the time Emme and Belle are both at school in a few years’ time, they will be spending at least £24,000 on school fees every year.

Hm

quote:

Their dilemma is how to fund the cost of the girls’ education without sacrificing their lifestyle.

candlebudget.jpg

quote:

Megan, who is currently on maternity leave, usually works four days a week but she could increase her salary considerably if she goes back to work full time.

I would say do tha

quote:

With two small children she’s reluctant to do this.

Nevermind

quote:

The couple could, alternatively, sell their buy-to-let to pay the school fees

I would say do th

quote:

but they don't want to miss out if the property rockets in value in the future. They also see it as a long-term nest egg to boost their pension.

Of course you don't. Good job the housing bubble only happened that one time!

quote:

They only have a few hundred pounds in cash savings and have a very limited knowledge of investment - but are willing to take on some risk.

You don't say.

BEHOLD: MY CAPE
Jan 11, 2004
I'm a little surprised that total net worth of ~£400,000 and income of £190,000 qualifies as top 1% in GB

SmuglyDismissed
Nov 27, 2007
IGNORE ME!!!

BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:

I'm a little surprised that total net worth of ~£400,000 and income of £190,000 qualifies as top 1% in GB

Based on the wording, I think they are counting them as 'owning' ~£1m worth of property and not subtracting the debt.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting
College Slice

BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:

Too bad, because for $10,000/year net cost of ownership you can actually own a variety of really nice luxury or exotic cars

Ehhhhh a X3 leased is $750/mo with very good credit unless you drop down $5000 at signing. For the kind of exotics that are $1000/day you will pay significantly more than 10k/year.

Maybe a mustang or vette sure

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

flyboi posted:

Ehhhhh a X3 leased is $750/mo with very good credit unless you drop down $5000 at signing. For the kind of exotics that are $1000/day you will pay significantly more than 10k/year.

Maybe a mustang or vette sure

:lol: what, an X3 lease with excellent credit is $450-600 depending on trim, without negotiating.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting
College Slice

Guinness posted:

:lol: what, an X3 lease with excellent credit is $450-600 depending on trim, without negotiating.

Yeah no. I did however typo but I was quoted $650/mo for one with a msrp of 51k. If you go completely base line probably but they're crappy without some packages.

It also doesn't help that the residual is 50% I believe on the X line while 3 series is 65%

flyboi fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Nov 21, 2015

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost
Oh good, we're swapping retarded gas derail for retarded bmw derail because goons are dyslexic

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


This reminds me of an old lullaby my grandmother would croon to me:
"When BWM turns into AI,
it really makes me want to die"

Miss you gam gam :(

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
A friend of mine is BWM. Lots of money owed for student loans, a credit-consolidation loan, then another credit card. He only pays the minimums on each. He refuses to budget, always claims he has no money, and still habitually spends money on random junk.

Even with his current little-hours part-time job, he still managed to blow $150 on a (fairly nice, admittedly) tower PC. A good deal, but bad with money.


Given that the credit cards and loans are over six years old now, I wonder how much has been paid just for the interest.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
When you are unemployed or unemployed the only BWM issue of note is not getting a better job.

BEHOLD: MY CAPE
Jan 11, 2004

flyboi posted:

Ehhhhh a X3 leased is $750/mo with very good credit unless you drop down $5000 at signing. For the kind of exotics that are $1000/day you will pay significantly more than 10k/year.

Maybe a mustang or vette sure

I was thinking more along the lines of a used 911 etc that can be had for relatively cheap and has done its depreciating. Cash flow would be a necessity but if you're only paying finance + mileage depreciation + maintenance + insurance on a leisure car the net expense is much much lower than a new car.

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!




I've noticed Cornholio talking about that lease over the last little while. He's also driving a BMW 540 if I recall correctly and is pining for a big dodge. I really want to hope he's not backsliding, but the writing's on the wall.

Lanky Coconut Tree
Apr 7, 2011

An angry tree.

The angriest tree
What are some of the good BFC classic threads? I don't have archives and just finished the Blue Story saga

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Are you familiar with the Zaurg cannon? I'd start there.

Lanky Coconut Tree
Apr 7, 2011

An angry tree.

The angriest tree
Help a phoneposting bro out and link me the good stuff?

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

Zamujasa posted:

Even with his current little-hours part-time job, he still managed to blow $150 on a (fairly nice, admittedly) tower PC. A good deal, but bad with money.
You mean $1500? Otherwise that sounds pretty good with money.

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



Zaurg: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3470495%26userid=39160
Slow Motion: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3560557

I wish I could find the murderknobs thread, that one was loving great.

e: this is all I could find of MK http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3175682&userid=125989
I had an idiot thread on here a while back, but someone decided to facebook msg my wife and poo poo went downhill fast...

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Cicero posted:

You mean $1500? Otherwise that sounds pretty good with money.

Maybe it was just the tower pc case. A pc case could be a good deal at $150 if it had LEDs and maybe flames on the side.

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe
Documentary The truth about payday loans. It's one hour of BWM including a guy who become suicidal over a 400 pound loan. The best part is the advertisements popping up for me are all for payday loan companies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbuj1FE0HPQ

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTMT0KDp7SM

Bringing back gasoline chat with australia.flv

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

BloodBag posted:

I wish I could find the murderknobs thread, that one was loving great.

e: this is all I could find of MK http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3175682&userid=125989
I had an idiot thread on here a while back, but someone decided to facebook msg my wife and poo poo went downhill fast...

Here's one of them: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3201890&pagenumber=1

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good



Thanks, this is great

OldMemes
Sep 5, 2011

I have to go now. My planet needs me.
So they're spending £24 grand a year to stop their kids having to mix with the poors? Is private primary school worth it? That's when you learn social skills and the basics, it's probably better for your kid to mix with other kids from a range of backgrounds. If you want the elite school thing but without the £24000 debt, just hire a tutor when they're ten, get them to pass them the 11 Plus exam and hope they can get into a Grammar School.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

OldMemes posted:

So they're spending £24 grand a year to stop their kids having to mix with the poors? Is private primary school worth it? That's when you learn social skills and the basics, it's probably better for your kid to mix with other kids from a range of backgrounds. If you want the elite school thing but without the £24000 debt, just hire a tutor when they're ten, get them to pass them the 11 Plus exam and hope they can get into a Grammar School.

I don't know about the UK, but in the US private school can absolutely be worth it, especially if you live in a state and/or a neighborhood with lovely public schools. And there's a lot of those.

There was a really good article on the NY Times about Massachusetts's rejection of common core testing. Top comment explains it pretty well:

quote:

I'm a public school teacher who sent both of my children to very selective private high schools (one went to an all-boys school and one went to the all-girls school that Bill Gates' wife attended) after they attended K-8 in public schools.

My husband and I felt we had no choice if we wanted to protect them from the education "reformers" who are starving public schools of funding, requiring expensive, overly-tricky standardized tests and hiring barely-trained TFA teachers--all in a bid to destroy public schools and steer parents to charter schools so the "reformers" can reap the tax dollars.

At both of my children's expensive, competitive private schools (approx $100K for each child's HS education), no standardized tests except the PSAT are given. The facilities are top-notch. The food is amazing (the all-boys school stressed the Angus beef served, while the all-girls school stressed locally sourced options). The classes are small.

I believe that 100% of the students from each private school each year are accepted into 4-year colleges, most with scholarships.

They are no smarter or more capable than my public school students, but they are given a much, much better education because Common Core, Bill Gates, TFA, Eli Broad and Michelle Rhee aren't allowed anywhere near the private schools. Think about the that. Privates spend their money on children; publics are forced to pay test sellers and computer vendors.

If even public school teachers, who themselves make not that much money, are sending their kids to private schools, you know something is up.

BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

Can't disagree that public schools are getting the short end of the stick, but assuming a school teacher would be an absolute authority on education is like thinking a doctor wouldn't hawk snake oil.

Suspicious Lump
Mar 11, 2004
I believe the UK has a very good public education system. The problem is fairly simple with that idiotic couple, they want to continue their lifestyle while at the same time not sacrificing anything. Not even their investment property.

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Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
Blending in like it ain't no thang

NancyPants posted:

Can't disagree that public schools are getting the short end of the stick, but assuming a school teacher would be an absolute authority on education is like thinking a doctor wouldn't hawk snake oil.

I have a lot of public school teachers in my family. One of them is currently trying to convince her son's middle school to hold him back a year so that he will be bigger than the other boys in his grade and will be more likely to dominate in sports so he can get a scholarship after high school. When the principal pointed out that her son was literally the top of his class and doing this would deeply harm his development she got pissy and claimed he would be getting a call from her lawyer (lol, what lawyer?). She is par for the course when it comes to the critical thinking of my school teacher relatives.

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