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I'll probably be closing votes in 7 hours in order to get started on the next update. If for some reason you want to vote but haven't yet, now's the time. Current results are: quote:Phoebe: 10
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Spielmeister posted:Jackie, Phoebe, Tyler
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Ragnar Homsar posted:
I didn't really notice until this LP, but the two bear Beast portraits really have that  face going on. Look at those pitiful puppy dog eyes! Also, I'll never get tired of watching dinosaurs fall in holes. Definitely my favorite FOE gimmick.  Voting for Zack, Jackie, and Rheine.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:I wonder if the programmer who finally got the idea to offload save data to the SD card (starting with PQ) got a raise Given that pretty much every 3DS game saves to the SD card (AFAIK), it wouldn't have made sense for Atlus's 3DS titles to not do the same.
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C-Start posted:I didn't really notice until this LP, but the two bear Beast portraits really have that Puppy Bear Eyes. 
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Aerdan posted:Given that pretty much every 3DS game saves to the SD card (AFAIK), it wouldn't have made sense for Atlus's 3DS titles to not do the same. Well, I guess it didn't make sense then because it took them three games to do it.
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I'm fairly certain offloading stuff to the SD card is something Nintendo intended only for "extra content," for whatever that nebulous term is worth. EO4 and EOU both write their "Extra Data" to the SD card using this. PQ was where they started using that "extra content" feature for core game stuff--namely, it's where all map data (even for cartridge saves) is written to. EO2U then started using it for full-on game saves, with one save slot on the cartridge itself; map data for this save is written to the cartridge, unlike PQ. I think every map is stored on the SD card in PQ due to how much information that game stores in its maps compared to other EO games; there's a LOT more icons you can use, color variations for each icon, a bunch of different states for dynamic shortcuts, etc. Also I'm exercising my divine right as an LP'er to shorten the voting deadline by one hour! So there's only one hour left to vote. Rea fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Nov 21, 2015 |
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And our party for the rest of the 1st Stratum up to its boss shall be:quote:Phoebe: 11 Landsknecht/Protector, Survialist/Gunner/Sovereign. Pretty decent party!
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Looking forward to seeing party synergy here. Mostly because they're the group that we HAVEN'T seen yet. In assume we'll have another party vote before the Strata boss? In which case, I want to see our little hexer come in and poison kill it far earlier than you probably should. 
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Update 4 conclusion: Around Town with Quona Before we swap over to our new party, let's take care of The shopkeeper girl.  Alright, we're ready. Rrr! Well, we'd be pretty bad caretakers if we just wandered off...Fade to black.  Yes? Ngh. You guys are adventurers, right? Sorry to bother you just after meeting you, but I need to find something... You all have a Citizenship Card, right? It's that identification document you got when you completed your first map thing. It's real important. Can't stay in High Lagaard without one of those. But, uh... See, I think I might've dropped it somehwere...and I was wondering if you could find it for me... ...you're serious, aren't you. W-what she means is, of course we will. Oh! That'd be great--hnnghk...! When I get excited, my head starts throbbing again... Rrr? No, I haven't looked anywhere yet... I wonder where I should be looking in High Lagaard...? Why does everyone but me understand this bear perfectly... Oh! Right! You're right! I do remember drinking at the bar...! Gah...my head hurts even from talking... Well, if you think the store will be okay while you're gone, then yes. If you'll only be gone for a little bit, then I guess I'll watch the shop. Sorry for having caused all this...Fade to black, followed by:  You already checked?Another fade to black. You two seem like good friends. ...Did I do something wrong? ...she's just like this. Hmm, is that so. I guess it takes all kinds. So, what brings you all the way to my store?Yet another fade to black. ...Wow. That's one clumsy guard. Sorry, but no guard that stupid came to this store. Hmm...if it's related to citizenship, then maybe you could ask Grandpa. ...It's probably not exactly his field, but he might have some clue. Oh, okay. ...Hope you find it soon.Fade to black. Make it a mission, then. We have exploring to take care of.Pretend I put in a fade to black here instead of telling you about it. We'll go look somewhere else, then. You're doing a, um, great job so far, Quona. ...you can do that. We just wasted 15 minutes of our time?: Rrr. Hey, you're right! I totally forgot you could do that. It's like an epiphany. Alright, I got it. I'll rush over to the Explorers Guild, then. Thank you guys so much. Now that I'm not so stressed, my hangover's getting a lot better! Bye now! Thanks a lot! You did well just now.Last fade to back, I swear. Um...wait, how did it go again...oh, yeah. We always fulfill our quests!My period key is screaming in agony right now. In any case, Hanna's talk dialogue for 3F: Amritas are godly consumables. They restore your TP when you consume them. The only big problem with them is that they're in limited supply until the 4th Stratum. Rea fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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Atlus have been getting progressively more stingy about giving you ways to restore your TP mid-exploration.
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Update 4.9, AKA "Lumen and Quona's Excellent Adventure"
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Supremezero posted:Update 4.9, AKA "Lumen and Quona's Excellent Adventure" Can't wait for Lumen and Quona's Bogus Journey!
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Update 5: Dinophobia  I gathered up a lot of stuff while training up the rest of the guild. A lot of stuff. Leather Whip is unlocked by selling 1 Gum Hide, Papillon Collar is unlocked by selling 3 Venomous Wings, and Leather Hat's unlocked by selling 3 Soft Furs. Here's the new party's starting equipment. I opted for Leaf Sandals on Nadia and Jackie due to the fact that bow and gun damage works off AGI, and Leaf Sandals provide +1 AGI. The 2 DEF difference between them and the Papillon Boots is insignificant at best. Zack's starting build. I put 4 points into Tornado, which is a Cut attack that deals 50% splash damage to enemies around the primary target. It's also a prerequisite to Hurricane, which I will want later on. My reasoning for only putting 4 points in is while the damage goes up by around 30% from level 4 to 5, the TP cost also goes up from 7 to 12, which will strain Zack's TP pool. I opted to put that point in Sword Mastery, which unlocked Blinding Slash. Without talking about it too much, Blinding Slash is a decent skill that requires a pretty large skill point investment to make work. I won't be using it. Phoebe's starting build. Front Guard is a very useful skill that reduces physical damage to the front line for one turn. Rear Guard does the same thing, except for the back line...which already has a damage reduction in place, making Rear Guard really bad. Leveling Shield Mastery up to level 3 unlocked the elemental Walls, which received a huge nerf compared to EO1-3 in EOU that's carried over to here: they only activate once per character during a given turn. They're still very much worth leveling up for certain bosses, and I want Fire Wall to be at least level 5 by the time we reach the 1st Stratum boss. Nadia's starting build. I leveled up Bow Mastery to 3, which unlocks the disabling Arrow skills, which are a Survivalist's bread-and-butter skills for pretty much the entire game. Sleep Arrow is of questionable usefulness due to the status ailment it inflicts, but Blind Arrow and Paralysis Arrow are very much worth maxing out. I prioritize Blind Arrow here due to the enemies we'll be encountering. Jackie's starting build. I leveled up Gun Mastery to 3, which unlocks the elemntal Rounds skills (Element+Stab attacks), then leveled up Ice Rounds to 5, and put the last point into Charged Ice (a line-piercing Ice+Stab attack that lowers the user's defense until the skill is activated). I'll want Burst Shot eventually (pictured on the right), but the skill point investment needed for it is very large, so I'll just level up Charged Ice some more; it'll be useful until the 3rd Stratum. Rheine's starting build. I leveled up Order Mastery (which actually provides a unique Mastery bonus: whenever Rheine uses an Order on someone, they are healed for a small amount + a percentage of their max HP), which unlocked: Attack Order, Guard Order, Holy Crown, Ad Nihilo, and Negotiation. I'll want at least one point in Prevent Order soon, which will require 2 more points in Order Mastery. I level up Attack Order to 4, stopping short of 5 due to the TP cost increase from 5 to 10.  Oh yes, I should explain Grimoire Chances (because I skipped showing the tutorial Marion gives you ). During battles, there is a random chance your character may get a Grimoire Chance, which will then roll for your character generating a Grimoire when they act that turn. If they roll successfully, depending on the Grimoire Chance you got (yes, there are multiple types), you will be given:
The different Grimoire Chance types are:
The only condition for Grimoire Chances happening is that the character must have at least one Grimoire equipped. A nice change to the Grimoire system in EO2U: when a character generates a Grimoire, you are told immediately instead of having to wait until the end of the battle to see. You're also told what Grimoires were generated during the battle, what level they are, and what added effects they have, if any, at the Results screen. In EOU, you were just told a Grimoire was generated, and given a vague "quality."  Medic Bullet is granted with level 1 Gun Mastery. It's okay in the very early game due to how low everyone's max HP is, but Gunners don't really have the TEC or VIT to make effective healers. Medic Bullet is also single-target only. Basically, don't level it up past what you're given by leveling up Gun Mastery. SYSTEM: It's said that things happen in threes, and lo and behold, when you approach you find a hedgehog there. Just like the previous times, the s pines in its back are lodged into the roots, and it cannot move without aid. This seems to be a rather dull-witted hedgehog... You are free to help the hedgehog or leave it to its predicament. SYSTEM: Deciding that you can't start ignoring the hedgehog now, you lend a helping hand. Phoebe volunteers and cautiously pulls on the hedgehog's spines to pull them from the roots. The hedgehog, seemingly used to this by now, shows no signs of resisting. But that is when you recall that the last two times, the hedgehog struck the moment it found itself liberated. It may be docile now, but you have your suspicions... Given past history, it may be wisest to have a plan, just in case. SYSTEM: You've been hurt by it twice already; what's the use in worrying about another wound or two? Phoebe rescues the hedgehog from the tree without hesitation. Despite Phoebe's decisive action, the hedgehog does not thrash about this time, and allows you to place it down. It may have slowly come to understand that you have no intention of harming it. But no sooner is Phoebe's guard lowered than the hedgehog hurls something at their face! SYSTEM: Though you're worried for Phoebe, who is writhing in pain, the injury seems superficial with only a bit of swelling. But by the time you have ascertained this, the hedgehog is already long departed. You share a chuckle at how things played out just as you anticipated, but then you notice a rare commodity at your feet. It must be what the hedgehog threw at you. At least the pain incurred wasn't for naught, you reason. You put the item in your pack before resuming your investigation. Clumped Sap is a rare find from Chop points on this floor.  Roller HP: 97, STR: 8, TEC: 6, VIT: 9, AGI: 6, LUC: 6 Skills:
Ailment and bind resistances: A critter with a tough hide, it curls up in a ball to ram enemies! Rollers resist most types of physical attacks and that's the most interesting thing about them.  Giant Ladybug HP: 100, STR: 8, TEC: 8, VIT: 7, AGI: 11, LUC: 8 Drops:
Ailment and bind resistances: An enormous ladybug. If it is in danger, it can emit a smell to attract ferocious monsters! Giant Ladybugs, on the other hand, are more interesting...because they summon a loving monster from 5F if they're the last monster left alive in a battle. Take them out first if at all possible. Here's what Front Guard looks like when it activates.  Wild Wing HP: 167, STR: 13, TEC: 6, VIT: 10, AGI: 10, LUC: 8 Skills:
Ailment and bind resistances: A carnivore who soars through the sky. You would be wise to use cold attacks... Wild Wings are dicks. Beaked Rush is a line-piercing attack that really hurts on the front line, and can realistically kill one of your back liners if you're somewhat unlucky or have a very fragile class like an Alchemist. Thankfully, they are very susceptible to blind. Victory Vow cuts the TP cost of Order skills in half, and makes them target the entire party instead of just one row. Dammit. Just barely undershot getting the conditional drop. Oh well, Wild Wings are pretty common encounters; there'll be other opportunities. From here on out, FOEbucks recipes can be found in either the Labyrinth or as rewards for quests, with one exception. Some of the recipes are hidden behind shortcut-accessible secret rooms, making them something of a pain to track down if you notice you're missing them (like what happened to me on my first playthrough). Like I said, Wild Wings hurt. Blinding them really helps, but blind isn't a 100% miss chance. Chop point. The ingredient for this one is Walnuts, which I actually really want because they're a component in a very useful food. Got a level up from an otherwise unnotable fight. Refer to my starting build comments for my reasoning behind all of these. I went back to town at this point to make that food I mentioned at FOEbucks. Stopped by Sitoth Trading to unload everything I'd gotten so far: Wyvernbone Blade requires 1 Frozen Bone, Ladybug Hairpin requires 1 Spotted Carapace, Wooden Shoes require 1 Hard Root, and the elemental Oils require 1 Clumped Sap. The Wyvernbone Blade's a nice upgrade for Zack, but I can't buy it at the moment.  And now, we stop over at FOEbucks, to develop... Walnut Rye Bread! This is pretty much my go-to food if I don't have a situation that specifically calls for any of the other foods. The max TP boost is small but nice early on, and can really significantly bolster TP pools as the game goes on, even for low TP classes like Landsknechts. I'm pretty sure the bonus it gives is 1.5x a character's normal max TP. I also equip Rheine with the Order Mastery Grimoire I got. The boost to the amount she heals is really small, but it does more for her than the Horse Slash Grimoire I had on her before does. One rest at the inn later, and... I'll be glossing over a lot of how I lure Raptors into pits now. I'm sure you get the idea behind it now. Yes, you can run into rare breed FOEs too. Yes, they give metric boatloads of EXP. No, it is not a good idea to fight them until you are past the point where you can reliably take down a normal breed. Yessssss. Return Flutes are the best "oh poo poo I need to get out of this fight NOW" item in the game. I'll demonstrate it later. I opt to map out what's up of our position before triggering Hrothgar's dialogue, and... This is something of an annoying enemy formation. The Ladybug takes reduced damage in the back row, but you still want to kill it first--giving the Wild Wing theoretical free reign for a turn or two. Perfect Defense completely cancels all damage to the party for one turn. It's a very powerful Force Break, and I'm only using it because I'm about to head back to town anyway. This message pops up when Perfect Defense is activated. Charged Shot is very useful for encounters like this, thank to its line-piercing ability. I forgot to screenshot it, but the Chop point right up ahead's ingredient is Asparagus. SYSTEM: The sharp cry comes from Hrothgar, the protector you met earlier. SYSTEM: The man looks at your party members in turn, a troubled expression on your face. SYSTEM: The protector remains in place, blocking the door with his head hung low. It seems that he won't let you pass just yet. You should return to town and visit the Duke's Palace for an explanation.  Dubois also has Talk dialogue for after you finish The shopkeeper girl: So does Marion. And Abigail. We're near the end of 3F, but I stop by the inn to rest up anyways. It's cheap, might as well. SYSTEM: He seems to be addressing this to the beast beside him as he moves away from the door. SYSTEM: With these last words, Hrothgar and his companion walk away. You can continue through the door and face the chaos within, or return to town to prepare.  SYSTEM: The ground is stained crimson with blood, and corpses are stacked on the field. The bloodcurdling sight reminds you of the mission you accepted at the Duke's Palace... You agreed then to find the soldiers who never returned from their posts in the forest. The gruesome open grave before you may be the final resting place of those very soldiers... A sudden roar startles you. You know now what caused this slaughter. SYSTEM: The instant the monsters catch sight of you, the menace in the air becomes palpable. If you charge in heedlessly, you may succeed only in adding your bones to the pile of corpses here... You do, however, see a door beyond the monsters. There could be surviving guards beyond it. Having accepted the mission, you are obliged to check the region for any survivors. You must make your way past the monsters somehow and get through that door! Yep. The Terrible Hunter (the FOE staring us in the face) is considerably better at hunting than its compatriots. Unless you position the Raptors just right, it'll jump over any pits in front of it to get to you. Yes, you can start a fight with it that way, and no, it's not a fight you're going to win. If you try to go to the stairs before finishing the mission, the game gives you this message: SYSTEM: The terms of the mission dictate that you must carefully search this floor before moving on. Got into an otherwise unremarkable random battle literally the step I took after that last screenshot, but I did get this. Here's what added effects look like when you get them on Grimoires. The Sleep Arrow Grimoire here has Cut Up 1, which increases Cut damage on whoever equips it by...I believe 1 or 2%. Complete garbage on a Survivalist Grimoire, though. Once you reach the tile in front of the door, the Terrible Hunter de-aggros. SYSTEM: You tense, but the sound is not that of a ferocious beast. Rather, it sounds like a human's cry for help. The voice is coming from the south... You must proceed in that direction in order to discover what the sound is. SYSTEM: Judging by his uniform, there is little doubt that this is one of the missing guards. SYSTEM: You tell the soldier the fate of that monster and how to return to town safely. Unless the game somehow assumes you can kill the Terrible Hunter at level 7 or 8, I'll assume this is a mistranslation. SYSTEM: The guard stumbles to his feet and staggers to the exit. Your mission is complete! Return to town and report to the Grand Duchy. Here's one of the alternate Grimoire Chances I mentioned earlier, before we go back to town. A very nice EXP reward. That was almost two levels worth. Uninteresting level ups for the first four members of the party. Rheine, on the other hand, unlocked Prevent Order, which will nullify one status ailment per cast on a character. It's a very fantastic skill, especially given that a lot of bosses and FOEs utilize status ailments to the point where I'd almost call it abusing status ailments. Leveling it up decreases the TP cost, and getting it to level 5 increases the duration to 4 turns. Neither of these are really worth investing skill points for, especially if you know when to time Prevent Order, so I'll leave it at level 1. I also made a very brief trip back into the Labyrinth to trigger Floor Jump for 3F, and open up everything that comes with 4F. When we leave the Labyrinth after getting to 4F: Dubois's 4F Talk dialogue: So here's how Advertising works. You pick a region of Lagaard, and look at whatever groups happen to be there at the time. Each one will request a type of food, and you have to determine what food you have available fits that description best. Also note that starting an ad campaign will only use up one measure of ingredients for that given food, no matter how many of the food you actually sell. You also can't sell food you don't have enough ingredients for. Advertising takes 20 in-game hours in the Labyrinth to finish. You can't just sleep at the inn over and over again until the campaign is finished. Regina also has post-The shopkeeper girl dialogue: And her normal 4F dialogue: Rea fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Apr 27, 2016 |
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Update 5 part 2: Cervidaephobia Moving on over to the Stickleback Bar: Let's chat up the bar patrons, now that they've changed for 4F. Loud caster: Poor old man: And now for the 4F quests. The item trade II: Supply lines: Supply lines is a really easy quest. You're going to visit both spots anyway while you're going through 4F. Volunteer service I: Volunteer service I is a quest you can maybe do as soon as you get it, depending on your party composition; I'd say you can do it at about this point if you have any class that deals Cut damage, along with a Sovereign. Otherwise, I'd wait until the end of 4F to do it, to be safe.  Stopping by the Explorers Guild to Talk to Marion: As soon as you enter Sitoth Trading, Abigail starts talking. And because took The item trade II, she starts talking to us again: Wood Bow's unlocked by selling 1 Bent Twig, and Framea's unlocked by selling 2 Spotted Carapaces (thanks, Crosspeice). I buy a Wyvernbone Blade for Zack now that we can afford it. We'll need him to be outputting as much damage as possible to take down a Ragelope. Whoops. I should note that I was really badly panicking here. I hadn't saved since the start of the update, and I would've been really goddamn upset if I had to restart because of this. Then I remembered I had a Return Flute. A Return Flute instantly exits you out of a battle (with one or two exceptions) and returns you to the last stairs or Geomagnetic Pole (we'll see those next stratum). They are very, very handy "oh poo poo" buttons, and unfortunately are in limited supply for a while. Reviving someone or curing Petrification at the Inn costs (5 * the patient's level) ental. After that nearly diastrous and stupid gently caress-up, here's what our gathering yielded: Spiked Axe is unlocked by selling 5 Shell Warts and 1 Aragonite, Power Ring is unlocked by selling 1 Garnet, and Analysis Scope is unlocked by selling 1 Garnet. The game also didn't list it for some reason, but we can also buy Wisdom Earrings now after selling Garnet. I considered buying a Power Ring for Zack, but forgoing an entire armor slot, especially early on, for +3 STR is very dangerous for a front liner. After resting at the inn:   Ragelope HP: 1680, STR: 18, VIT: 13 Skills:
With its magnificent horns, it can mesmerize adventurers! Welcome to our first FOE fight of the game! The Ragelope isn't to be hosed with early on, especially at this level. Baffling Step is a single-target skill that has a very high chance of Panicking someone, which locks you out of controlling them and makes them attack either the enemy or your own party. Knockdown is a straight-up hard-hitting attack that's pretty much guaranteed to kill whoever it hits; the only person in our party that could maybe survive it is Phoebe if she uses Front Guard or Defends. Here's my initial strategy. I have everyone but Phoebe use their Force Boosts; I need as much damage as possible out of Zack, Nadia, and Jackie, while Rheine will cast Prevent Order on everyone to prevent Baffling Step from loving up the fight. And right off the bat, I get very lucky. You can tell if Prevent Order nullified an ailment by the text at the top of the screen. Ouch. Volt Rounds is not the skill to use here, evidently, even though the Ragelope is weak to it. The second hit did around 20 damage. Now that's some good damage. Keep in mind the Ragelope has 1800 HP though. I switch to using Charged Ice here, and have Rheine buff everyone's damage. Are you loving serious, game? That one's technically on me for not re-applying Prevent Order, but still! That's more like it. I need this thing dead ASAP with Phoebe panicking, so I have my damage dealers use their Force Breaks. Aw poo poo. A) The thing's not dead yet. B) Blind wore off. I'm not making the same mistake twice. Okay, this is getting bad. Phoebe's still panicked, so she can very easily die here. Nadia'll try to paralyze the Ragelope, while I try to get Zack alive again. This is the luckiest I've ever gotten with status ailments. Really close loving call, there. If Rheine had died, I would've probably gotten a game over. On the one hand, the thing's nearly dead. On the other, all of this will have been for naught if Nadia or Jackie kill it. To that end, I have them both defend for one turn. Getting really down to the wire here. Goddammit. What a waste. UGGGGGHHHHH. The amount of random chances that I had to get lucky on there is insane. Whatever, I got the Severed Antler. Fade to black. Fire Wall now completely nulls fire attacks once per turn on a character. It costs 16 TP, however. And here are the DLC grinding quests. Cass's dialogue for each of them is the same: SYSTEM: There is a plant in front of you, and oddly enough, it moves continuously--as an animal might. Baffled, Zack peers at it, and leans closer to the plant to determine its true nature... The plant moves slowly for some tense movements...and then leaps at you! There is no point in showing you the fight. The thing went down in 2 attacks. SYSTEM: There's no mistake--the monster you defeated just now is the plant that was requested at the bar! The request has been completed. Here's what the other two look like. The first mission gives us a variable amount of money based on what Stratum we've reached, and the other two give 2 Nectars each. Very handy. The EXP is pitiful, though, and for good reason. Let's take Cass's suggestion and go to FOEbucks: Alright, the Yggdrasil Teas. These are each designed to cut down on the amount of time you need to grind for certain resources. The Yggdrasil-Bud Tea massively increases the amount of drops you get from battles, and gives you around 5 of whatever rare material can be found at a gathering point. The Yggdrasil-Sprout Tea turns basically every Grimoire Chance into a Premium Grimoire Chance. The Yggdrasil-Clover Tea, however, is truly the most broken of the 3, and its DLC was released last. It triples the EXP your party gets, and distributes 1/3 of that to your entire guild. You can get the Teas through normal gameplay; each of the Yggdrasil enemies will show up very rarely when you enter a floor (including Floor Jump). However, the normal versions only give 1 ingredient when defeated; you'll notice that we got 38 from just one of the DLC fights. Also note that each Tea only lasts until you leave the Labyrinth. After you leave the Labyrinth with a Tea's effect, the effect is dispelled. And to wrap up the update, the Flaus Inn's Talk function now shows this. We can have Quona replace Hanna at the front desk, which I prefer because Quona's voice acting is less annoying than Hanna's. Hanna's 4F dialogue: Quona's cafe dialogue: And her normal 4F dialogue: Rea fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Nov 23, 2015 |
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Geez, I know you only covered the entirety of one floor, but it feels like you're really trying to go through the game at a fast clip. Might have been better to have just made it two separate updates instead of parts, haha. Guess if I ever grab any of the grinding DLC it'd be the exp one, though, didn't even know it gave EXP for the reserve members too. Probably because I haven't touched Classic that much, but that's good to know!
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There's a fun thing you can do with the third tea that I'm sure you'll show off. That thing is mad busted. (It would really help these SCCs if I bought the grinding DLCs, but they just feel cheaty )
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i just like to think of the exp one as cutting out grind time the only thing causing you to overgrind is yourself
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Hivac posted:the only thing causing you to overgrind is yourself 
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I didn't mean you specifically! i just meant like folks can still have challenge in the game, they just gotta know when to -stop- using it my least favorite part of trying to do pure expert was slowly trying to eke out exp on the rares i could actually reliably kill to get to a decent level for bosses. it wasn't fun, it just took a longass time
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Ah, this is why you don't let the guy who can't get DLC complete the item list. Since all I have to go on with spears is the JP wiki, I had to kinda make names up. But I've been correcting them as the LP has gone on. So the Framea is unlocked with Spotted Carapace x2. I also didn't notice that 1 Garnet unlocks three separate items. I don't think any other material does that.
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theshim posted:There's a fun thing you can do with the third tea that I'm sure you'll show off. That thing is mad busted. (It would really help these SCCs if I bought the grinding DLCs, but they just feel cheaty I'm not so sure it's busted, as it seems like they intended for it to do exactly what it did. Which is incredible. But still intended, so possibly not busted!
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BlackPersona posted:Geez, I know you only covered the entirety of one floor, but it feels like you're really trying to go through the game at a fast clip. Might have been better to have just made it two separate updates instead of parts, haha. I was considering that. I probably could've cut the update after getting the missing guards mission, which didn't occur to me while I was writing it. If it seems I'm going too fast, bear in mind we're still only in the 1st Stratum. Things will probably slow down considerably once we're past the first boss. Hivac posted:I didn't mean you specifically! i just meant like folks can still have challenge in the game, they just gotta know when to -stop- using it I don't think I've ever had issues with needing to grind EXP for bosses, even on Expert. What I have had issues with is Grimoire grinding, because even by the 2nd Stratum boss, not having >lv10 abilities ranges from making fights incredibly frustrating to making them near-impossible. Rea fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Nov 23, 2015 |
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BlackPersona posted:Guess if I ever grab any of the grinding DLC it'd be the exp one, though, didn't even know it gave EXP for the reserve members too. Probably because I haven't touched Classic that much, but that's good to know! I would like to note that the money DLC (Which gives you the Soft Buds for the Gathering cafe drink) gets loving rediculous. And by that? 500k en by post-game. It can be from about...I don't know EXACTLY, but it seems to be several thousand at the earliest and around 20k by the second or third stratum.
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Would you be willing to separate floor and bar dialogue into a post-update section (probably as its own post)? Mostly I ask because I think the bar dialogue in particular is so lengthy it kinda breaks up the flow of the update.
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Aerdan posted:Would you be willing to separate floor and bar dialogue into a post-update section (probably as its own post)? Mostly I ask because I think the bar dialogue in particular is so lengthy it kinda breaks up the flow of the update. I dunno about mid-floor dialogue because most of the time it's required to understand what's going on (see: Hrothgar in the last update), but stuff like Talk dialogue, the bar patrons (outside of when they're needed for quests), and Cass's pre- and post-quest dialogue probably could be put into their own section. I'll experiment with it next update.
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Update 6: Bats and Lizards To start off the update, I sold two materials I forgot to sell off before the end of the last update. Deer Hide Boots are made from 1 Deer Hide. I don't buy them because they're basically Leaf Sandals with slightly more DEF and +5 HP. I do upgrade Zack and Phoebe's armors from Half Armors to Breastplates, however. And here's 4F...I guess it's best described as a gimmick: rubble everywhere that make you take very long paths around. I say "best described as" because as far as I'm concerned, 4F is just a very maze-like layout (which is reflected in how I map it later on ).Oh hey, new enemy.  Hypnosis Owl HP: 110, STR: 6, VIT: 8 Skills:
A giant owl with unique feather markings. It can put its foes to sleep! Hypnosis Owls are mildly annoying at best. Sleep Powder is a single-target skill that'll probably put whoever it targets to sleep. Just one, though. If Sleep Powder was all-party (like it was in the original EO2), it'd be an issue...but it isn't. That's on their own, however. Paired with something like this Wild Wing, Sleep can seriously screw you, because it doubles whatever hits the target while they're asleep. If anyone in our party gets afflicted with Sleep and then hit by Beaked Rush, they'd almost certainly die. Oh yeah, Sleep. Sleep makes the afflicted target unable to act. When they take any damage, the damage is doubled, and the ailment is dispelled. Charged Ice still easily takes care of encounters like this, though. Shortly after that fight: SYSTEM: It shows no interest in you for now, but there's no knowing when it may change its mind. Moreover, this enemy can fly, allowing it to pass over terrain you cannot. You think it best to keep one eye on its movements as you proceed. Vampire Bats are, as the game said, FOEs that can fly over impassable terrain, and can ignore any special tile types. They have an incredibly simple pattern: they're non-aggressive, like the Ragelopes were, and will just fly back and forth between two points in a straight line. There's an exception to this, but we'll see it soon enough. Vampire Bats are also pretty weak FOEs; we could probably take one on right now and win, but there's always the potential for something going wrong that discourages me from trying it. EO2U loves introducing you to FOE movement patterns by designing them in such a way that, if you just blindly walk forward, you'll end up fighting the FOE. If I'd just gone forward after the game told me about the Vampire Bat, I would've ended up fighting it. Instead, I just take a few steps back and pace a bit while I wait for the Vampire Bat to turn around. Simple enough. A brief few steps later:  Flying Lizard HP: 119, STR: 11, VIT: 9 Skills:
A winged lizard that glides to build momentum and delivers a shattering kick! I really hate these things. Dive Kick is a splash-damage attack that hits fairly hard, even in the back line. That's not that bad on its own, however. The problem is when there's multiple Flying Lizards, plus possibly other monsters. At that point, not only can multiple Dive Kicks kill one person, the splash damage could potentially kill another person, or leave them low enough that another monster could easily clean them up. Tornado was practically built for these encounters, though. The Wild Wing will lose a little over half its HP and deal a decent amount of damage to the Lizards. Dive Kick's splash damage in action. Flying Lizards aren't as weak to Blind as Wild Wings, but it's still a good way to take out a major threat. Oh yeah, that's the exception in the Vampire Bat's movement patterns I mentioned. When you're in a battle, Vampire Bats will aggro towards your party, and try to join in on the battle. I said that Vampire Bats aren't that bad on their own, but they can get annoying when they join in on a fight. This is when Dive Kick gets dangerous, when it gets stacked on people that have already been hit by it. Had Jackie been the target of the first Dive Kick, not only would she be dead, but Rheine would be in mortal danger too. Nothing bad happened in the end, though. After mapping out the tiny last portion of that room, and going through the door, we come upon this. SYSTEM: No matter how much you try, the way seems impenetrable for now. And exactly 3 steps after that: SYSTEM: The guard shakes his head worriedly. SYSTEM: The guard looks up into the forest again anxiously. If you would challenge the Chimaera, you must hurry and pursue Beowulf to the 5th floor. More Vampire Bats in the next room. They're as easy to dodge as the first one. SYSTEM: It just so happens to be the hedgehog you've rescued time and time again. SYSTEM: The hedgehog hasn't noticed your presence yet, and is dazing dreamily at the sky. Perhaps it is fate that has brought you together... You may greet the hedgehog if you wish. SYSTEM: You elect to hail the hedgehog, though you think you ought to proceed carefully. After all, your history with the hedgehog leads you to fear it my attack you again in some way. You keep that in mind as you consider how to approach it... SYSTEM: Seeing no need to approach this with any special plan in mind, you wear a friendly demeanor as you walk up to the hedgehog. When you are but a few steps away from petting distance, the hedgehog breaks from its reverie and turns towards you! Its spin is a touch too vigorous, for the hedgehog slips and falls over! Worse yet, it falls on its back, causing the spines to once more become tangled in the tree's roots... It is clear to you now that this hedgehog is helplessly dull-witted. SYSTEM: Reasoning that you and the hedgehog have been through too much together, you decide to rescue it. Though it sees you clearly reaching for it, the hedgehog puts up no resistance and remains motionless. Even after it is freed and back on terra firma, it simply gazes up at you without any hostile movements. You stand there motionless with bated breath, when suddenly the hedgehog rams its head into the nearby tree! SYSTEM: Before you can process what just happened, an enormous pile of leaves falls from the tree above! Dumbfounded as you are by this unexpected turn of events, it takes some time to notice the hedgehog has disappeared. As you stand there bewildered, you see something gleaming amidst the leaves scattered about on the ground. You sift through the leaves to get a closer look and find that it's a useful set of materials for explorers. Whether the hedgehog intended on leaving you with this gift or not is unclear, but either way, you take the items with you. SYSTEM: When you finish collecting the items, you go to resume your investigation of the forest. If you select a Force Break, but don't actually get to it before the battle ends, the character's Force isn't broken, but it is set to 0. This Grimoire's a lot more useful in Story, where you don't have the option of creating a gathering party. It's also our introduction to the fact that treasure chests can sometimes contain Grimoires. Most of which are...actually pretty useless. Before we head back to town to unload new materials and rest up, the first stop of Supply lines is a mere 4 steps away. SYSTEM: As you push through the final thicket, you see a group of guards. You have found the camp! Seeing you, a guard approaches. Wiping the sweat from his brown, he speaks to you uncertainly. SYSTEM: You tell him the story, and his face breaks into a smile of relief and he takes the heavy box from your hands. SYSTEM: You pause to consider their offer, since it wouldn't hurt to leave the heavy load with them. However, as the task was assigned to you specifically, it might be better to finish the task yourself... SYSTEM: As the guard bids you farewell, you head once more into the verdant forest to complete your task. And back to town we go. Our first stop is Sitoth Trading, where I sell everything we've gotten so far. Gladius is unlocked by selling 3 Spotted Carapaces. It's a downgrade from Zack's current Wyvernbone Blade. Kodachi's unlocked by selling 5 Wyvern Skulls. It's the 2nd best Katana you can buy in the 1st Stratum. Beast Bow is unlocked by selling 5 Bent Twigs and 1 Large Feather. Bayonet is unlocked by selling 1 Owl Beak. It's the best gun you can buy in the 1st Stratum, so I buy one for Jackie. Leather Shield is unlocked by selling 3 Glue Hides. I don't buy it to upgrade Phoebe's Targe because it only gives +3 DEF compared to the Targe. We'll be getting a better shield before Chimaera. Venom Ring is unlocked by selling 7 Venomous Wings and 2 Glue Hides. It provides immunity to Poison to the person who equips it. Stab Talisman is unlocked by selling 8 Wyvern Skulls, and provides 25% resistance to Stab attacks. The elemental resistance accessories were super overpowered in EO3 where you could stack them, but in EO4 and beyond you're limited to one accessory per character, making the resistance accessories kinda sucky. And lastly, I talked to Abigail after selling all this stuff, but before leaving the store: And Abigail's 4F Talk dialogue, because it was blocked off by her quest dialogue before: And before we go back to 4F, time to turn in The item trade II: These three have uninteresting level ups. I'm leaving Blind Arrow at level 9 for now to keep the TP cost at 8. Leveling up Charged Ice to 5 would make its TP cost jump up to 20, which I'm not that interested in right now. I had a bit of an internal debate as to whether to go for Charged Shot or another Charged elemental shot, and eventually decided on going for Charged Fire. We won't be needing fire for any big enemies until the 3rd Stratum, but might as well get started now. Leveling up Attack Order and Guard Order to 3 each unlocks Dauntless Order. Dauntless Order is a buff of mediocre usefulness during the main story, but is an absolute lifesaver, bordering on necessity depending on your party composition, in the postgame. I won't be leveling it up for a long while, but it's one of the Sovereign's best buffs. I also equip the Beast Bow that we got from turning in the quest. It's a pretty decent upgrade from Nadia's old Short Bow, especially given that we got it for free. One quick stop at the inn to rest and save, and we're back at it. Whoops. That was careless movement.  Vampire Bat HP: 1152, STR: 17, VIT: 12 Skills:
It swoops down to feast on blood. Puncture its wings if you hope to survive. Like I said earlier, Vampire Bats aren't that deadly on their own. They'll always open with Echolocation, which has a high chance to bind a single target's head. Unless you're using an Alchemist, that shouldn't be that huge a hindrance, although binding a Medic's head will stop them from being able to heal, and binding a Troubador or Sovereign's head will stop their buffs for a while. Blood Drain is something to watch out for; it's likely to kill one person, and heals the Vampire Bat based on how much damage it did. Fortunately, it doesn't use Blood Drain until a few turns in, so taking it out quickly is in your best interests. My basic strategy for the Vampire Bat is basically the same as it was for the Ragelope, except Rheine'll just buff everyone's damage out of the gate. Prevent Order can't stop binds, so it's worthless against Echolocation. And the bat basically gave me a free turn. Phoebe has no skills that make use of the head right now, so binding her head does nothing. I didn't mention it when taking on the Ragelope, but the Survivalist's Force Boost, Illusion Step, adds an extra chaser attack to any bow skills they use during the Boost's duration. It's decent enough damage, but it's never going to make much of a difference. Tornado sadly doesn't have the 100% accuracy modifier it did in EO2, and Landsknechts don't have the highest AGI, so them missing isn't infrequent. Now that's what I'm talking about. Vampire Bats are weak to Stab damage, so Nadia and Jackie are hitting really hard here. Jackie's new gun helps, too. I have Phoebe start using Front Guard in case the Vampire Bat starts using Blood Drain. I don't think Guard Order will really be the difference between anyone living or dying, but Rheine has nothing else to do. Yeah, Vampire Bats are really weak FOEs. This is turn 3, mind you. Both Supreme Bolt and Summer Rain have really high speed modifiers, and will qualify me for the conditional drop. I just decided to use them both and see whatever went first. Easy fight. You might be wondering why Vampire Bats are really easy, especially given that they are FOEs. We'll be seeing why next floor, so just wait till then. Now THIS is a potentially deadly encounter. Whoever gets put to sleep is in very serious danger of being killed, even from just the splash damage of Dive Kick. Shield Protect is a weird Force Boost. The game says it "Increases the effectiveness of Shield skills for 3 turns," but what it actually does is halve whatever damage is incoming towards a person under the effects of Shield skills, after the effects of the Shield skill. Hypnosis Owls will sometimes "panic" and do nothing for a turn. I'm not entirely sure if this is based off of killing its allies, or if it's just after whenever it uses Sleep Powder. And we're almost done with the floor. You can see what I was referring to earlier with seeing the floor as just one big maze. I know some people mark rubble with the rock icon the game provides, but rubble might as well just be another wall as far as I'm concerned. When we go through the door, the second destination for Supply lines is directly to our left. SYSTEM: Weapons at the ready, you make your way forward. As you listen, however, you realize that you hear footsteps and human voices. Seeing you, a guard approaches. Wiping the sweat from his brow, he speaks to you uncertainly. SYSTEM: You tell him the story, and his face breaks into a smile of relief as he takes the heavy box from your hands. SYSTEM: You have completed the quest! When you have time, you should visit the bar and report your progress. And with that, 4F is finished. The game will let you know when an ad campaign has finished in the same manner that it'll let you know when a quest or mission is finished. As soon as we enter FOEbucks, the game goes to the ad campaign results screen. Town Development is basically how you create more opportunities to advertise your food, along with an additional effect we won't see until later (hint: it will involve Grimoires). It's incredibly simple: you select a district of Lagaard, and then choose whether or not to develop it. I dunno how town development can happen that quickly, but whatever. Town development can either increase the number of people that a certain group on the map counts for, or introduce new groups with different food tastes. Some of the groups that are introduced by developing districts are tied to specific classes. We'll see the relevance of this later on. When a group's population increases, if the food you advertise in that district appeals to them, you'll sell more of that food. Since we're nearing the end of the 1st Stratum, I take the opportunity to develop whatever food I can: Deer Steak restores HP every turn. I don't really find it that useful, even for exploration sustain. Butterfly Tsukudani doubles any damage dealt by poison inflicted by the party. Meh. Owl Cartilage Karaage gives the party's basic attacks a Volt element for one turn. I don't think you can get more situational than this, really. Walnut Yokan slightly increases the chance that a Griomire Chance will occur. Not worth using food for. We need the ingredient from a 5F monster to develop this food. Stir-Friend Roller slightly increases the rate at which your party recovers from ailments and binds naturally. I prefer to just take precautionary measures before getting hit with disables, but that's sometimes not an option, in which case...Stir-Fried Roller still isn't that great. Citron Owl Bowl massively increases the party's resistance to Poison. Useful for Chimaera, pretty worthless otherwise. Seared Deer blocks one bind per character for 3 turns after a fight starts. I literally cannot think of a single use for this; there is not a single boss or FOE in the game where this will make a significant impact. We also need ingredients from a 5F monster to cook this. You'll see why this is actually a mistake later on. I also drink the Yggdrasil-Clover Tea to demonstrate an interaction it has with quests and missions. Before we leave, Regina's 5F dialogue:  In any case, let's go turn in Supply lines. Fire Jars are basically low-level Fire Formulas. Use them on an enemy, and you basically cast Fire Formula on them. Oh yeah, that interaction between the Yggdrasil-Clover Tea and quests I mentioned. The tea triples all EXP you receive. This includes quests and missions! It distributes what would've been the normal EXP reward to everyone in your guild, too! I won't be using this after this demonstration. It's far, far too easy to completely snap the main game's difficulty in half by doing this. Mission EXP can sometimes be enough for 3 levels with this! The 5F quests. We'll start with Braggart Chap's tall tale: The nameless flower: This is a quest that's basically positioned exactly along where you need to go in 5F. Not too difficult. Lastly, A taste for venison: Yep. I forgot about A taste for venison when I did that Seared Deer ad campaign. I could cancel the ad campaign, but that'd be a waste of ingredients, and we'd be losing out on potential money. I'll just wait it out. Onto the barflies. Patrons with a yellow exclamation point are related to quests we've accepted. Braggart Chap: Exhausted Tramonte: Lastly, Statuesque man: And before we go to Sitoth Trading, Cass's 5F dialogue: Morcego Staff is unlocked by selling 1 Punctured Wing. In addition to giving +1 TEC like the Amud Staff, it gives +20 TP instead of +8. I buy one for Rheine to give her a bit more TP for long explorations. Red Choker is unlocked by selling 1 Bat Membrane. It's the second best collar you can get in the 1st Stratum; it gives +5 HP in addition to its +21 DEF. Wing Leaf is unlocked by selling 2 Large Feathers. If Jackie and Nadia (Zack, Phoebe, and Rheine can't equip clothes) were dying enough, I might consider buying this; as is, +7 DEF isn't going to save them from anything that'd kill them. Abigail's 5F Talk dialogue: Marion's 5F Talk dialogue: Nothing we didn't know. Dubois's 5F Talk dialogue: I went back to FOEbucks to swap the Yggdrasil-Clover Tea out for the Walnut Rye Bread (because the EXP tea snaps the EXP curve in half so hard it's not even funny). In the process, I also triggered Regina's dialogue for A taste for venison: I'm slightly regretting that Seared Deer ad campaign now. Oh well. Quona's 5F dialogue is the same as her 4F dialogue, so here's Hanna's dialogue to close out the update: Rea fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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I have screenshots for the other recipe pictures, if you want them in PM. Though, upon looking again, your capture card seems to have taken better quality pictures than the ones I have. Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Nov 27, 2015 |
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Quona's talk dialogue only changes once per Stratum or whenever you trigger event dialogue from Regina. The Poison damage food is actually completely absurd if you're using a Hexer with Venom Curse, because a level 20 version of that hits pretty hard, especially with the double Poison damage food, and that's pretty much the first skill you want to max out for them. TP cost isn't even a concern with Hexers, so there's no need to hold off on leveling up the skill. Venom Curse stops being a one hit kill for random encounters midway through the game, but it's still fairly useful until late/post-game. (Ah, some things never change. )As with accessories and food that have arrows up next to them (If they're providing resistances. I don't think what I'm about to say applies with any other effects food give, like extra Grimoire chances) the amount of resistance they provide are as follows: 1 arrow means it increases resistance by 10%. 2 arrows means it increases resistance by 25%. 3 arrows means it increases resistance by 50%. 4 arrows means it gives complete immunity.
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Update 7: Your Best Friends (plus some snails)  And we begin this update with me allocating skill points I forgot to last update. I maxed out Sword Mastery, which unlocked Falcon Slash on Zack. Falcon Slash is a random-target Cut attack that can only hit any given enemy once, and has a maximum number of times it can hit. It's pretty much built for taking out random encounters, although the TP cost's too steep to really use that much early on. We do need it at level 5 to unlock Hurricane.     Meanwhile, these four have very uninteresting level ups. Nothing groundbreaking here.   Let's begin. 5F is slightly longer than 4F in terms of "time you'll spend on the floor," but it still isn't that long.    Rafflesia HP: 362, STR: 12, VIT: 11 Skills:
A man-eating plant that emanates a venomous pollen. Remember how I said Giant Ladybugs back on 3F could summon a 5F monster if you left them alone? This is that monster. Rafflesias aren't as intimidating as they would be if you fought them on 3F, but they can still kill some party members, potentially cause a game over, if you're not careful. Poison Pollen tries to poison an entire row, which ticks for around 40 damage. Freezing Snare is an all-party Ice attack that also deals around 40 damage. Our party can survive that fairly easily at this point, but if anyone is poisoned, Freezing Snare + the poison would kill them.   Fire Rounds is a composite Fire+Stab attack, which is why it dealt that much damage even though Rafflesias resist Stab. When you have a composite damage type like that, the game just picks whatever element would deal the most damage and uses that.  Rafflesias' basic attacks don't hurt that much, especially with Front Guard factored in.    Every Stratum has a floor with one of all three types of gathering points on it. They only give one food type each, sadly.  This Chop point gives Asparagus.  Another solo Rafflesia. Okay.   Secret room here.   Oh come on. Why do I always seem to trigger encounters at doors and in front of chests?!  Third solo Rafflesia in a row. Sure. Whatever. These things aren't that hard to deal with.  Now that's a good reward. We'll need as many as possible for the Chimaera fight.    5F's Mine point. I kinda wish it gave Rock Salt instead of Sugar Beets, but oh well.   That is four encounters in a row now against a solo Rafflesia.     And way further down the...alley, I guess I'd call it, we find:   Abdomen Curse is a Hexer skill that tries to bind one enemy's arms. Nadia could maybe make decent use of it, but she needs to be contributing as much damage as possible early on.   That is the FIFTH solo Rafflesia encounter in a row. Now I'm starting to get a little annoyed.   SIX solo Rafflesias in a row.    I have Rheine use her Force Break here to both heal everyone and give Nadia and Jackie some TP.   Got a level up after the sixth Rafflesia there.  I finally raise Tornado to level 5 because Zack's going to need as much damage as possible in the upcoming Chimaera fight.    These three have the same level ups as last time, basically.  I opt to level up Attack Order to level 5, which increases the duration to 4 turns at the cost of raising its TP cost to 10. I want it as high a level as possible before Chimaera.   SYSTEM: It is High Lagaardian currency... Could some explorer have dropped it? You may pick it up if you wish, though the option is always there to ignore the money. SYSTEM: Knowing that nothing good ever came from greed, you decide not to touch the money. The last hedgehog event is here, but it involves an encounter I wasn't that interested in getting into. We'll see it after Chimaera.   Seven Rafflesias in a row. That's a lucky number.    King Snail HP: 343, STR: 13, VIT: 11 Skills:
The king of all snails, whose magnificent shell changes attributes when electrified. King Snails aren't that intimidating on their own, or even when paired up with a Hypnosis Owl like here. It's when they have Forest Snails that they become dangerous, thanks to Snail March there. You'll see it later.         SYSTEM: ...It's moss! Even through your thick-soled boots, it is evident how soft the ground is. But why would moss be growing in a place like this? Moss thrives on liquid, but try as you might, you don't see any water sources nearby. Yet you can't discount the possibility of an unseen source of water somewhere... If you wish to solve the mystery, you might try coming back here at night. Coming back here from 7 PM to 6 AM will result in a different event.   And behind this door...   SYSTEM: Whether you slip by without encountering them or fight your way through, the passage will be harder than ever before. If you are prepared, then step forth! A room full of Ragelopes and Vampire Bats. The Ragelopes circle around those two trees you see, while the Vampire Bats maintain their normal back-and-forth pattern. My first time playing, I was intimidated by this room pretty badly, but it's actually not that big a pain to navigate. Just try to trail behind the Ragelopes and stay out of the Vampire Bats' way.       Same thing for these last two.   And we're done. Like I said, the room looks more intimidating than it actually is.     And the last gathering point of the floor, the Take point.   This is a fairly threatening encounter. A hit from the King Snail could finish off anyone in the back line low hit by Poison Pollen or Freezing Snare. I killed the Rafflesia first, and this was the result:   If a King Snail is the last monster left alive, it has a chance of summoning 4 Forest Snails and putting itself in the back row.  That message pops up when a group of monsters are preparing a group attack. I kill the Forest Snails before the King Snail can act, though, which leads to:   Snail March is a random-target Bash attack that hits (1 + (# of Forest Snails)) times. It hurts quite a bit, and is capable of killing one or two party members if you get unlucky with the hits. Thankfully, the actual attack is tied to the King Snail, not any of the Forest Snails, meaning that blinding the King Snail will pretty much completely shut the attack down.   And now that I've unlocked this shortcut, I take the chance to go back to town, sell off what we've gotten so far, and rest.      Warabide is unlocked by selling 3 Owl Beaks and 1 Metal Hull. If you're using a Ronin, this is the best katana you can buy in the 1st Stratum. Rafflesia Whip's unlocked by selilng 1 Huge Petal. It's the best whip for Dark Hunters you can get in the 1st Stratum. Flower Collar is unlocked by selling 4 Huge Petals. It's worthless for reasons we'll see later. Lightning Shield is unlocked by selling 1 Electric Shell. It provides 10% resistance to Volt attacks. I didn't buy one for Phoebe here, but I might before Chimaera; it's a decent boost over her current Targe. After that, I rest up, and run into an enemy on 3F I forgot to demonstrate while I was going through it.    Cube Gel HP: 84, STR: 9, VIT: 8 Skills:
An unusual life-form whose viscous, liquid body is very difficult to damage. Cube Gels don't hit hard. They're just annoying to take down if you don't have a Gunner or Alchemist. They have one noteworthy thing about them, though. When you kill them, this happens:  Stomach Acid reduces the entire party's physical damage for 3 turns. If you're in a fight against multiple enemies without elemental damage, this can seriously make the fight a real hassle. Anyway, back to 5F.   SYSTEM: It appears to be a tiny flower, small enough to hold in a single hand...its petals a regal navy blue. You suddenly remember the quest you accepted at the bar... The quest involved a flower that would spark fond memories for an elderly lady who misses her beloved. This flower may be the very same that the quest asked for. You can choose to leave the flower where it is, or you can choose to pick it and take it back.  SYSTEM: The monster, shocked by your presence, lunges at you on instinct!    Nah.    SYSTEM: You have completed the quest! When you have time, you should visit the bar to report your progress.     Another FOE puzzle that looks worse than it actually is. You have two trees, one tile apart, with one Ragelope circling the one we're currently close to, and the other two circling the other one. Same solution as the others: just wait for the second Ragelope circling the right tree to pass, then run behind it.   There's a chest before we go further, though. Ice Jars are the same thing as Fire Jars, except they basically cast Ice Formula instead of Fire Formula.  The Raptor probably won't catch up to the party going through the Ragelope puzzle, but I tend to err on the side of caution.   So I trap it one more time to immobilize it.   You don't have to wait for the second Ragelope to pass, neccessarily; just the first one. I'd advise waiting for the second one to pass if you're close to a random encounter, though.       That is NOT a fun encounter to get blindsided by. Zack came dangerously close to death there.  Like I said, blind shuts down Snail March hard.     We're almost done with 5F. This is the last room coming up.   I have to go back into the previous room and let the Raptor de-aggro. The only way forward here otherwise is getting into a fight with the Raptor.          Um.   There we go. It might've looked like I was sandwiched there, but keep in mind the Raptor was injured and only takes 1 step for every 2 we do. It's easy to bait it into the other pit, as a result.   A modest sum of money, and our last chest of the Stratum.     SYSTEM: The black beast Wulfgar, always at his master's side, is here with blood-matted fur.  SYSTEM: When he spots you, he nudges towards you some objects at his feet, as if trying to appeal to you.   SYSTEM: The objects are assorted pieces of equipment... You surmise that they belonged to the Beowulf guild. One of them is a bloody sword that you receognize as that which Hrothgar carried. After presenting the equipment to you, the beast gazes ahead into the forest and gives a mournful howl. It is a cry filled with the sorrow of losing something precious... SYSTEM: In this way, you grasp the fate that has befallen the Beowulf Guild. And you know without a shadow of a doubt that beyond that door awaits Chimaera, the king of beasts... The black beast's gaze is locked upon you through the pain of its wounds, as if begging. You can challenge the king of beasts now, or return to town to ensure you're prepared.         SYSTEM: Its roar is so powerful that not only does it shake the nearby grass and trees, but your party as well. This must be Chimaera, king of beasts...the monster which you must slay! SYSTEM: The monster is unquestionably strong. Before you face it head on, you think it may be wise to see if anything in your surroundings may prove useful. Whether you charge at once or take a more measured approach is up to you. Once your mind is resolved, then make your move! Fighting Chimaera right now would be absolute suicide, although you could probably guess that yourself.      After the results screen is closed:    Say hello to FOEbucks's newest feature: Grimoire Trading. Every so often, the list of explorers up for trading gets shuffled, in addition to Guest being added in time with ad campaigns. If an ad campaign you ran appealed to a group directly tied to a class, like the Landsknechts Guild, you'll get Guests, who have much higher leveled Grimoires compared to the normal riffraff.   I don't actually do any trading, but I do get the Deer Steak campaign we need for A taste for venison going before I leave. Next, stopping by the Stickleback:       Like I said earlier, we need to back to that lone 3x3 room in the Labyrinth at night to see a different event.  SYSTEM: Looking carefully at your surroundings, you notice something odd on the ground. ...It's moss! Even through your thick-soled boots, it is evident how soft the ground is. But why would moss be growing in a place like this...? As you ponder this question, you see water seep to the surface, creating a small pond. The moonlight's glow hits the water, making it seem like a thing alive... SYSTEM: The sight is so beautiful that it doesn't seem an exaggeration to describe it as tears spilling down from the moon. You can feel your cares and stresses melt away as you gaze upon it...  The event restores 35 TP to your whole party. Pretty useful if you're exploring 5F at night.  SYSTEM: The tears of the moon which Braggart Chap inquired after... He wished to know where they might be found. You feel certain that the "moon's tear" he spoke of is this very pool. Simply tell your client about htis place when you are next at the bar and the request will be complete.  We could've just told Braggart Chap where the event is, but it still needs to be night for it to actually count for quest completion.    Fade to black, followed by:   Worthless.  Not worthless!  I only need Tornado level 5 for Hurricane, and I'd like Hurricane as soon as possible, so I start leveling up Falcon Slash.   Pretty much the same level ups as before for these two. Paralysis Arrow now has a higher chance of paralyzing its target, at the cost of the TP cost going up to 8.   Jackie unlocked Charged Fire. We actually won't really need this until the 3rd Stratum, but eh.  One last point in Attack Order before Chimaera for Rheine.  Only unlocked the Sauschwert, which requires 2 Metal Hulls. It's a downgrade from Hrothgar's Sword.  And to close out the update, let's develop those last two foods.  Forest Deer Sukiyaki doubles your party's action speed for the first turn of a fight. Not really worth it.  Black Tea greatly increases your party's resistance to blind. This is actually very useful for a few fights later on in the game.
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Chimaera pre-fight overview Chimaera HP: 8220 (can be reduced to 5500), STR: 21, TEC: 16, VIT: 17, AGI: 14, LUC: 17 Skills:
Ailment and bind resistances: A horror born from the fusion of various creatures. It leads the charge in combat. Chimaera is a very tough first boss. Its skillset mostly consists of hard-hitting attacks that can either kill or put your party members close to death, and his normal attacks hurt quite a lot, too. You may be  ing at that "8220 HP" stat, but let me explain.Chimaera is also an introduction to something EO2U does for a few of its bosses: having to solve a field puzzle similar to what we've had to do for the Raptors so far. Chimaera's boss room has 4 piles of rubble with pits at a corner; the idea there is to bait Chimaera into each of the pits, which will lower Chimaera's HP by ~10% each. Starting a fight with Chimaera while it's in a pit will also not only give you a free turn, but will automatically bind its legs. If you don't do this field puzzle, you're going to be in for some serious pain. Snake Pile not only hits incredibly hard, if it inflicts poison, it's pretty much a death sentence for whoever it hits. Only Ursa with Desperation on can realistically survive being hit by Snake Pile + the poison, and even then that's not certain. Great Blaze deals moderate Fire damage with a splash effect. It hurts, but it's (probably) not going to kill someone from full HP. Double Strike hits a bit harder than Snake Pile, and can either hit one or two people. If it hits one person twice, they're pretty much dead. No questions asked. Menacing Roar is something that you need to instantly dispel, pretty much. It turns Chimaera's already high-damage physical skills into overkill. It, thankfully, does not affect Great Blaze's damage. I should note that if someone has a defense buff on them when Menacing Roar is cast, all Menacing Roar will do is cancel out the buff. Chimaera's AI will begin the fight by using either Great Blaze or its normal attack. Once Chimaera drops below 66% HP (or if you start the fight after dropping it in the pits four times), it will start throwing in Snake Pile into the mix. Chimaera also starts using Menacing Roar once it drops below 50% HP, as well as infrequently using Double Strike. Finally, once Chimaera's HP bar turns red (once you get it below 20%), it will start going berserk and using Double Strike a lot more, while using its normal attack quite a lot less. I will note that, while conditional drops don't disqualify you from normal drops like in EO3, they don't sell for that much money, and we won't be able to use the equipment for a long while. With that in mind, onto the guild members: Damage dealers Defense Supports Rea fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Mar 31, 2016 |
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Ragnar Homsar posted:Update 7: Your Best Friends Oh you. Stardust, Jackie, Sophie.
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Nov 29, 2015 00:37
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Tyler, Jackie, and Realga For stabbing damage.
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Jackie, Nadia, Realga.
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I'm pretty sure that Supreme Bolt's Stun can't actually fail unless the target is outright immune to Stun. And unlike EO2, there are actually enemies and bosses that are immune to it in EO2U. Jackie, Sophie, and Milly. I got the all conditionals on my first fights in EO2, you can too.  (Or Chimaera's at least for this one.)
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Dr. Fetus posted:I'm pretty sure that Supreme Bolt's Stun can't actually fail unless the target is outright immune to Stun. I've had it fail against some FOEs before in other playthroughs (and I think I've had Chimaera not be stunned by it once). It's worked far more often than not, though, which is more than I can say about Rose Prison.
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Zack, Tyler, Stardust
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Tyler to take the first step on becoming a hero, Ursa to take up Wulfgar's claw, and Stardust for the Highlander synergy. ...Also because I started my Classic playthrough and the Alchemist is loving great.
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Let's get some sweet sweet revenge. Realga, Sophie and Jackie
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