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Serious People are always scared about 'realism,' seems
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 03:59 |
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Tiberius Christ posted:The gently caress? is it made by the elves from LOTR I'm exaggerating a little but if you are one the size of a normal piece of cake you'd be shot for the day.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 04:00 |
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I wonder if the huge uptick in the social acceptance of Islamophobia means that, doubtless temporarily of course, Atheists are no longer the most despised religious affiliation in the US? Has this ever been the case in the history of it being polled?
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 04:11 |
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Tiberius Christ posted:The gently caress? is it made by the elves from LOTR It's a gazillion layers of pastry dough filled with butter, nuts, and soaked in sweet syrup. It's like the unhealthiest thing you can possibly eat.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 04:35 |
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quote:We just should remember that, when — where we grew up is — when we were in our grade school that’s when the world was right and we tend to want to recreate that idyllic scene in our adulthood thinking that’s the best thing for America. And in my case, it is. I grew up with "Fun with Dick and Jane." Wonderful. But you know, while I was going on, he was going to a school in Indonesia, so his idea of America is entirely different than the idea that most Americans have of what we ought to be like, and he’s filling our country up with people that will continue to attack us.” Steve King (R-Cantaloupes)
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 04:37 |
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So good news for people on Medicaid in Iowa! It is being privatized. It rolls out January 1st even though EVERYONE in the state seems to range from mildly annoyed to foaming at the mouth angry about this. Govener Branstad assures us it is going as planned. quote:Gov. Terry Branstad, who is pushing to shift management of the state’s Medicaid program to private companies on Jan. 1, said Thursday that the firms have signed more than 12,000 contracts with pharmacies, doctors and other health care providers. Doesn't sound so bad! Let's take a look at those numbers. quote:But most Iowa hospitals and physicians have not signed contracts to participate in the new system, according to the Department of Human Services. The issue is important, because the managed-care companies are supposed to show they have broad networks of health care providers willing to care for the new plans' members. Well I'm sure it will turn out in the end. I mean it isn't like Branstad did anything else this year. I mean he didn't destroy the "iowa niceness" and pride in working together that our legislative process had and caused future gridlock by vetoing a hard fought compromise on education funding between the two parties in Iowa. Or have a corrupt hiring of a university president. Or support the use of eminent domain to build the Bakken pipeline. Which would run underneath Iowa farmland. Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Nov 21, 2015 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:It's a gazillion layers of pastry dough filled with butter, nuts, and soaked in sweet syrup. It's like the unhealthiest thing you can possibly eat. Nuts are good for you
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 05:05 |
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:You couldn't be any more wrong about this. t don't how you got "Germans could have paid up but were politically unable to do so" from "defaulting on payments". They were required to give exports as part of reparations and their factories simply couldn't keep up. The second they did default, Allied powers marched in and started seizing national assets. A lot of countries at the time were feeling a financial crunch and were attempting to offload their burdens on Germany. There as passive resistance in the end, but only after the Allies got heavy handed. Remember, the Weimar government accepted the Dawes plan condition of foreign supervision of the Reichsbank. Germany could easily have kept up on reparations but were politically unable to do so. The Ruhr crisis was, as I said, largely because keeping up with reparations was politically untenable, for the reasons I suggested. I'm aware of the Ruhr crisis, but it does not explain much of anything about World War II - the factors that lead to Hitler's rise to power, the continuing illegitimacy of the Wiemar government, and the complete unwillingness to accept the post-WWI settlement had little if anything to do with reparations. The "stab-in-the-back" myth was why Germany never accepted the verdict of the war, why the democratic government which arose in the mutinies that ended the war was never legitimate, and why they refused to accept their territorial losses after WWI and meekly accepted the end of the unified German state for half a century after WWII. They also meekly accepted the Russians basically looting everything that could be moved to Russia until they decided that it was better to build up East Germany since it was essentially their front line. Hell, german POWs held by Russia were essentially slave labor for half a decade with some being held more than a decade after the end of WWII. "Oh, it was reparations" has never been true. They weren't exactly the greatest foreign policy move ever, but that they led to WWII has been completely debunked. Reparations were a symbol, not a cause: they were one of the things that Germans could focus on as a tangible "we lost" part of the Treaty, but their real beef was that they were treated as losers when the german public sincerely believed that they'd graciously agreed to an honorable peace between equals.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 05:09 |
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Mr Hootington posted:So good news for people on Medicaid in Iowa! It is being privatized. It rolls out January 1st Good. Unshackle the medicaid market
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 05:10 |
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Mr Hootington posted:So good news for people on Medicaid in Iowa! It is being privatized. It rolls out January 1st even though EVERYONE in the state seems to range from mildly annoyed to foaming at the mouth angry about this. Finally they can keep government off our Medicaid
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 05:31 |
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MonsieurLongDong posted:No. I suspect for some of this we cribbed from the same handbook published by a pro bono organization that does CLE classes. The middle paragraphs should be the same. You guys seemed to crib from this source in an almost identical manner
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 05:49 |
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The article states that he is still seeking that federal approval for the shift. Is there a chance it will be blocked, or is it purely a procedural thing that gets auto-approved once things are in order?
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 06:03 |
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Mr Hootington posted:So good news for people on Medicaid in Iowa! It is being privatized. It rolls out January 1st even though EVERYONE in the state seems to range from mildly annoyed to foaming at the mouth angry about this. I'm glad I'm moving back home to try to work in politics, because I can't wait to, in my smallest way, be responsible for removing Terry Branstad from office. That guy has really taken this term to just alienate everyone in the state who isn't his buddy. My aunt who lives in Western Iowa is getting a new job, and (semi-jokingly) offered me room and board to help run the little shop she owns in her town, and literally the only reason I even considered it is because it would put me in Steve King's district so I could spend all my free time following him around and yelling at him.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 06:11 |
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Mr Hootington posted:So good news for people on Medicaid in Iowa! It is being privatized. It rolls out January 1st even though EVERYONE in the state seems to range from mildly annoyed to foaming at the mouth angry about this. I'd feel worse for them, but these are these are the people that they voted for, so...
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 06:13 |
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The private insurance operators are probably just trying to run up their kill count because they think a patch is coming soon Did he run promising to do all these things? If so, lol at anybody who voted for them
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 06:16 |
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Joementum posted:The RNC is now selling "I Miss W" hats. but but there is still jeb
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 06:37 |
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Logikv9 posted:The article states that he is still seeking that federal approval for the shift. Is there a chance it will be blocked, or is it purely a procedural thing that gets auto-approved once things are in order? I could not find for the life of me what exactly happens to it, but from what I gather it goes to The Center for Medicaid and CHIP Services or something for review and must be approved by some top guy there. It seems like an all but sure thing from my understanding and Iowa state senators went and recently that if they approve it that 11 changes be made. Couldn't find what those were exactly, but one was a gradual move to privatization instead of straight up on January 1st. Yoshifan823 posted:My aunt who lives in Western Iowa is getting a new job, and (semi-jokingly) offered me room and board to help run the little shop she owns in her town, and literally the only reason I even considered it is because it would put me in Steve King's district so I could spend all my free time following him around and yelling at him. Oh crud I also forgot to mention Branstad closed 2 of our 4 mental hospitals.. He is also open to reviewing the other two facilities. Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Nov 21, 2015 |
# ? Nov 21, 2015 07:10 |
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I'm literally going back to bed for an hour so that this image doesn't mark the start of my day. Thnx facebook
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 11:37 |
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JeffersonClay posted:Uh, Krugman is deeply concerned with inequality and thinks reducing inequality is more important than growth. http://www.amazon.com/The-Great-Divide-Unequal-Societies/dp/0393248577 That's the topic of this and I think it's a pretty good book so far. I saw a WSJ review of it and it tried to blame the housing crisis on the CRA and also relied on simplifications of the points of the book to make him sound silly aka it was a terrible review.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 12:01 |
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evilweasel posted:Germany could easily have kept up on reparations but were politically unable to do so. The Ruhr crisis was, as I said, largely because keeping up with reparations was politically untenable, for the reasons I suggested. I'm aware of the Ruhr crisis, but it does not explain much of anything about World War II - the factors that lead to Hitler's rise to power, the continuing illegitimacy of the Wiemar government, and the complete unwillingness to accept the post-WWI settlement had little if anything to do with reparations. The "stab-in-the-back" myth was why Germany never accepted the verdict of the war, why the democratic government which arose in the mutinies that ended the war was never legitimate, and why they refused to accept their territorial losses after WWI and meekly accepted the end of the unified German state for half a century after WWII. They also meekly accepted the Russians basically looting everything that could be moved to Russia until they decided that it was better to build up East Germany since it was essentially their front line. Hell, german POWs held by Russia were essentially slave labor for half a decade with some being held more than a decade after the end of WWII. This is literally the only timecI have ever heard this, so you might want to cite this if it's been, "completely debunked"
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 13:35 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:It's a gazillion layers of pastry dough filled with butter, nuts, and soaked in sweet syrup. It's like the FTFY
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 14:41 |
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Boon posted:This is literally the only timecI have ever heard this, so you might want to cite this if it's been, "completely debunked" He's right. Current historiography* of WWII has done away with the idea that reparations/Versailles were root causes, though they did serve as a post-hoc symbol the Nazis could point to during their rise to power as an example of why Germany needed to rearm and whatnot. Doris Bergan's War and Genocide has a pretty solid refutation of the older reparations argument, and Wolfgang Schivelbusch's The Culture of Defeat goes into even greater depth since he's more concerned with defeated nations than doing a broader history of WWII like Bergan, to name two books off the top of my head. *Ignoring, as always, the opinions of fringe cranks, holdouts, and neo-Nazis. Jerry Manderbilt posted:ah, so is this the reason general patton (?) said "the germans never knew they'd been defeated; we're gonna have to do it all over again"? That, and he was a war-glorifying lunatic who didn't want the fun to end. Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Nov 21, 2015 |
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evilweasel posted:Germany could easily have kept up on reparations but were politically unable to do so. The Ruhr crisis was, as I said, largely because keeping up with reparations was politically untenable, for the reasons I suggested. I'm aware of the Ruhr crisis, but it does not explain much of anything about World War II - the factors that lead to Hitler's rise to power, the continuing illegitimacy of the Wiemar government, and the complete unwillingness to accept the post-WWI settlement had little if anything to do with reparations. The "stab-in-the-back" myth was why Germany never accepted the verdict of the war, why the democratic government which arose in the mutinies that ended the war was never legitimate, and why they refused to accept their territorial losses after WWI and meekly accepted the end of the unified German state for half a century after WWII. They also meekly accepted the Russians basically looting everything that could be moved to Russia until they decided that it was better to build up East Germany since it was essentially their front line. Hell, german POWs held by Russia were essentially slave labor for half a decade with some being held more than a decade after the end of WWII. ah, so is this the reason general patton (?) said "the germans never knew they'd been defeated; we're gonna have to do it all over again"?
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Epic High Five posted:
Ah, yes, the American Civil War: a conflict in which President Lincoln oversaw the daily expansion of mass graves and concentration camps within eyesight of the White House and when roaming religious death squads pressganged and murdered everyone in sight. A truly manly war. [e]: The joker behind this image must be so ignorant of history, they only saw the words 'civil war' then the synapses in their brain stopped firing. Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Nov 21, 2015 |
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Ah, yes, the American Civil War: a conflict in which President Lincoln oversaw the daily expansion of mass graves and concentration camps within eyesight of the White House and when roaming religious death squads pressganged and murdered everyone in sight. There are definitely people who would think those are things that happened. My relatives were talking about how the North in the Civil War were worse than the British in the Revolutionary war.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Ah, yes, the American Civil War: a conflict in which President Lincoln oversaw the daily expansion of mass graves and concentration camps within eyesight of the White House and when roaming religious death squads pressganged and murdered everyone in sight. It's really generous to assume this pre-Cambrian nematode has synapses.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 16:19 |
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There were plenty of refugees during the American Civil War. They didn't flee to another continent though for hopefully obvious reasons.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 16:37 |
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baw posted:They didn't flee to another continent though for hopefully obvious reasons. Grasping The Obvious™ is scarce in the world of the modern american conservative.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 16:41 |
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The Obvious™ has been replaced by Common Sense™, which i think means making a snap judgement of a complex situation based on your preconceived biases and then never questioning it
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 16:50 |
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Epic High Five posted:
Instead it marks the start of my day. I hate the person who made this
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 16:50 |
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Instead it marks the start of my day. Me too, what an rear end in a top hat. "...in contrast to those Manly Americans, fighting for the right to enslave an entire race of human beings in the name of unfathomable capitalist zeal."
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 16:55 |
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It's nice because that image requires you to be an idiot who doesn't know anything about history, about what's happening in Syria, and to be a massive rear end in a top hat all at the same time. While like all wars our civil war did have atrocities it was one of the more genteel ones in our history as long as you weren't, you know, a slave. I'm guessing that last part isn't on Confederate Flag Guy's priority list, though.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 17:24 |
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Bullfrog posted:White supremacists from /pol/ apparently showed up at the Black Lives Matter protests in Minneapolis last night, armed, and are planning to do so again tonight: https://www.facebook.com/BlackLivesMatterMinneapolis/videos/1010885932288533/ I laughed out loud for the first thirty seconds and then turned it off, because it must be parody. Right?
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 17:26 |
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Epic High Five posted:
lmao Because there totally wasn't a whole issue with people buying their way out of the draft or hiring substitutes.
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Boon posted:This is literally the only timecI have ever heard this, so you might want to cite this if it's been, "completely debunked" That's pretty much scholarly consensus. If you want a good overview on the time between the world wars, I can recommend Sally Marks' The Illusion of Peace, she talks about the economic consequences of the Versailles Treaty at length. As it turns out, most of the reparations conditions that were demanded of Germany were never fulfilled, which was tacitly ignored by the allied powers, mostly due to the diplomatic genius of Stresemann.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 17:31 |
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botany posted:As it turns out, most of the reparations conditions that were demanded of Germany were never fulfilled, which was tacitly ignored by the allied powers, mostly due to the diplomatic genius of Stresemann. Not to quibble, Germany made its last WWI reparations payment in 2010! A minor point but I still find it entertaining that re-unified Germany finally got around to balancing the books on that one. Raskolnikov38 posted:lmao Because there totally wasn't a whole issue with people buying their way out of the draft or hiring substitutes. Or, you know, slave owners being automatically exempt from conscription in the South.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 17:37 |
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Are you trying to make a joke? Or is this one of those things where you read the headline and forgot to read the rest of the article afterward?
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 18:17 |
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Seeing this on FB is an invitation to post that chart showing that most the refugees are women and children. The men ARE fighting.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 18:24 |
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botany posted:That's pretty much scholarly consensus. If you want a good overview on the time between the world wars, I can recommend Sally Marks' The Illusion of Peace, she talks about the economic consequences of the Versailles Treaty at length. As it turns out, most of the reparations conditions that were demanded of Germany were never fulfilled, which was tacitly ignored by the allied powers, mostly due to the diplomatic genius of Stresemann. Huh, really? I thought the steep payments on reparations and loans were what forced Weimar Germany into hyperinflation due to printing so much currency for those and other things like wages and interwar veteran pensions. If not that, then what caused hyperinflation?
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Huh, really? I thought the steep payments on reparations and loans were what forced Weimar Germany into hyperinflation due to printing so much currency for those and other things like wages and interwar veteran pensions. It did, but the hyperinflation crisis was over by 1924 and wasn't a huge contributory factor to WWII (other than by convincing a certain fellow that the time was right to overthrow Weimar democracy which, uhh, didn't go over all that well in practice). The real economic factor leading to the rise of Nazism and WWII was the Great Depression, not hyperinflation.
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