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homeowner 39 22.41%
renter 69 39.66%
stupid peace of poo poo 66 37.93%
Total: 174 votes
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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

:feelsgood:

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Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006
I think the red weetbix one is meant to be the most popular so we should all put that one down last, the blue one second last.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
The black and blue one is the uglier of the two, and the one being pushed by Farrar, Hooton, et al.

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006
I think the red one polled the best though, just going by memory I may be wrong.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
There was like 2% in it I think. I don't think there's any way of knowing how the referendum will turn out, Red Peak fans are more passionate and therefore more likely to vote perhaps?

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
What are the numbers actually looking like? Last polling I saw was pre-Red Peak.

Kathleen
Feb 26, 2013

Grimey Drawer

exact order of preference that i did

Laverna
Mar 21, 2013


It's not possible to have a 5, 5, 5 is it? I find both the blue fern ones equally hideous.
(I'm overseas so I haven't actually got mine yet)

I find this whole thing really frustrating because I actually support a flag change, but all the options we get are jokes. None designed by a proper flag designer and all based on some company logo.

There's really only two ways it can go,
1) We get a new flag that sucks almost as much as the old one.
2) No flag change, which means nobody will attempt to change it again in my lifetime.

Sorry for the mini-rant.
Oh well, I might vote for hypnoflag and then red peak.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

What are the numbers actually looking like? Last polling I saw was pre-Red Peak.

Red Lockwood 35%
Black Lockwood 33%
R E D  P E A K 17%
New Zealand Inc. 8%
Hypnoflag 7%

http://umr.co.nz/sites/umr/files/umr_flag_referendum_-_november_2015_-_media_release.pdf

Laverna posted:

It's not possible to have a 5, 5, 5 is it? I find both the blue fern ones equally hideous.
(I'm overseas so I haven't actually got mine yet)

You don't need to rank all five, but you can't go 1-2-blank-blank-5, or give multiple the same number.

Laverna posted:

I find this whole thing really frustrating because I actually support a flag change, but all the options we get are jokes. None designed by a proper flag designer and all based on some company logo.
You can probably count the world's flag designers on both hands to be fair, and I don't think any of them are from NZ :v:

Laverna
Mar 21, 2013


Exclamation Marx posted:

You can probably count the world's flag designers on both hands to be fair, and I don't think any of them are from NZ :v:

True, that one might have been a bit unfair.
Those Lockwood ones look like they were designed by a 5-year old though, surely they could have done better than that.

emminou
May 25, 2006



Don't vote for a new fleg guys.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

We are going to end up with a garbage piece of poo poo logo flag and all the other countries will laugh at us, including the ones with AK47's on theirs.

alpaca diseases
May 19, 2009

If your preferred flag option wasn't actually this one



Then I honesty don't know what to say

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
I keep reading the title wrong

ledge
Jun 10, 2003

maxhush posted:

If your preferred flag option wasn't actually this one



Then I honesty don't know what to say

My 11 year old son is genuinely annoyed that the kiwi shooting lasers from its eyes isn't an option.

I genuinely agree with him.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

Exclamation Marx posted:

You can probably count the world's flag designers on both hands to be fair, and I don't think any of them are from NZ :v:

wikpedia has you covered: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vexillography

quote:

Prominent vexillographers

Luis and Sabino Arana, designers of the Ikurriña (the flag of the Basque Country)
Graham Bartram, designer of the flag of Tristan da Cunha and others
Manuel Belgrano, designer of the flag of Argentina
Frederick 'Fred' Brownell, designer of the flags of South Africa and Namibia; recipient of the FIAV’s 1995 Vexillon; and Fellow of FIAV
Ron Cobb, designer of the American Ecology Flag
John Eisenmann, designer of the flag of the U.S. state of Ohio
Mohammed Hamzah,designer of the flag of Malaysia
Quamrul Hassan, designer of the flag of Bangladesh
Robert G. Heft, alleged designer of the 50-star canton for the American flag
Cederic Herbert, designer of the flag of the short-lived Zimbabwe Rhodesia
Adolf Hitler, designer of the flag of Nazi Germany, the Reichskriegsflagge and his own personal standard.
Francis Hopkinson, designer (according to some historians) of the American flag
Friedensreich Hundertwasser, designer of a koru flag, among others
Susan K. Huhume, designer of the flag of Papua New Guinea
Sharif Hussein, designer of the flag of the Arab Revolt
James I of England, designer of the first flag of Great Britain
Edward (Ted) Kaye, former managing editor and editor of the North American Vexillological Association's Raven: A Journal of Vexillology (1996–2012) and compiler of the flag design guide Good Flag, Bad Flag
Syed Amir-uddin Kedwaii, designer of the flag of Pakistan
Lu Haodong, designer of the Blue Sky with a White Sun flag of the Republic of China
John McConnell, designer of a Flag of the Earth
Fredrik Meltzer, designer of the flag of Norway
Raimundo Teixeira Mendes, designer of the flag of Brazil
William Porcher Miles, designer of the battle flag of the Confederate States of America
Francisco de Miranda, designer of the flag of Venezuela, upon which the present flags of Colombia and Ecuador are based.
Theodosia Okoh, designer of the flag of Ghana
Christopher Pratt, designer of the flag of the Canadian province of Newfoundland and Labrador
Betsy Ross, designer, according to legend, of the American flag during the American Revolution
Gerard Slevin, former Chief Herald of Ireland, reputed to have helped design the flag of the European Union
Whitney Smith, designer of the flag of Guyana and other flags
George Stanley, designer of the flag of Canada
Joaquín Suárez, designer of the flag of Uruguay
Pingali Venkayya, designer of the flag of India
Robert Watt, designer of the flag of Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Oliver Wolcott, Jr., designer of the flag of the United States Customs Service
Zeng Liansong, designer of the flag of the People's Republic of China
Ismet Guney, designer of the flag of Cyprus
Nguyen Huu Tien, designer of the flag of Vietnam


emminou posted:



Don't vote for a new fleg guys.

sounds like one of those free man on the land guys.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
I choose Adolf Hitler

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Exclamation Marx posted:

I choose Adolf Hitler

Third reich flag beats hypnoflag easily.

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, at least they were good at design.

exmachina
Mar 12, 2006

Look Closer

cptn_dr posted:

Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, at least they were good at design.

Really defined the modern 'evil empire' look.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
They really were very good. Hitler wanted a symbol to compete with the hammer & sickle, and ended up straight up stealing the swastika on white on red from some random schlub who designed it for the nazis. I read this book this year, it's very good.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

that book might be good but using 'totalitarian' to group fascist and communist governments that operated differently together is something real dumb that people should stop doing.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
It's less concerned by the ideology and doesn't really conflate them; the four examples are used because they're fairly distinct and were each revolutionary in propaganda and presenting the identity of the state. The examples are Nazism (anti-modern fascism), USSR (modern communism), Fascist Italy (modern fascism) & Maoist China (anti-modern communism). Did u know the Nazis invented using acronyms for government departments etc? :wth:

Jacobin
Feb 1, 2013

by exmarx

emminou posted:



Don't vote for a new fleg guys.

I don't always want my Freeman On The Land / Sovereign Citizen legal advice, but when I do, I want it on Yik Yak



As an aside- I will be Red Peak [1] Koru Swirl [2] Meh [3-4] Weet-bix fern [5]

Considering spoiling my 2nd referendum ballot just to retain some sliver of radical "f this" cred

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I just wrote no in every box. I also managed to partially tear it when I was taking it off of the letter as well.

Laverna
Mar 21, 2013


I think I heard someone mention that Red Peak looks kind of like an abstract vagina, and ever since then I can't see it as anything else.

Maybe I could use that to justify voting for it as like a feminist statement.

Jacobin
Feb 1, 2013

by exmarx

Laverna posted:

I think I heard someone mention that Red Peak looks kind of like an abstract vagina, and ever since then I can't see it as anything else.

Maybe I could use that to justify voting for it as like a feminist statement.

Reposting



E: just to clarify, to avoid any potential confusion with your statement, I have a different interpretation of the Red Peak as a symbol for the coming dawn of human sacrifice over New Zealand.

A flag for all!

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Jacobin fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Nov 22, 2015

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

They have to be dismembering a kitten for that picture to make sense.

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

Slavvy posted:

They have to be dismembering a kitten for that picture to make sense.

Gareth Morgan supports banning cats, and says Red Peak is the only good flag design, it's a conspiracy.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
You're suppose to spoil the first vote and vote NO on the second.

newtestleper
Oct 30, 2003
I voted

1- Red peak
2- Hypnoflag
3- Fern black
4- Fern blue
5- Fern black/white

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

A long read about voting: http://www.designassembly.org.nz/articles/the-fit-of-peak-and-the-need-to-vote

JK being a poo poo: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/the-flag-debate/74337045/jonah-lomu-tribute-shows-need-for-a-new-flag-pm-says

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006
By Key's retarded 12 year old logic we should also have a kiwi on the flag, and the lord of the rings and lorde and pavlova and sheep because they are all symbols people around the world associate with NZ, just chuck them all on the flag

swampland
Oct 16, 2007

Dear Mr Cave, if you do not release the bats we will be forced to take legal action

"A major worry about the Trans Pacific Partnership is the loss of sovereignty to multinational corporations. Flags assert sovereignty. The issues are not unrelated.

We stood strong in the face of our allies with our nuclear free policy. A clearly independent flag may amplify our courage to take a lead on issues like fair trade and climate change."

Well that's utterly moronic

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Key makes a good point after all that is why the US flag is Lady Liberty feeding an oversized hamburger to a bald eagle.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Sweet next time some third world scrub complains about being owned by a corporation I'll just tell them they should've designed a better flag :smug:

ledge
Jun 10, 2003

A newspaper uses the All Blacks symbol to recognise someone who was primarily known for being an all black = New Zealand needs a new flag. Obviously.

There was no NZ flag because it wasn't about New Zealand you loving oval office!

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.
Goddamn I am utterly sick of rugby. It's inescapable. A team wins a game, a guy retires from his job, a man dies unexpectedly, a flag needs changing and somehow the allblacks are referenced, a prime minister goes overseas to ostensibly engage in trade talks but ends up at a rugby game.

When Honi Hirorewa spent a couple days in Paris after going overseas he was racked over the coals!

I feel as bad for Jonah's family as I do for anyone else who've had a family member die, and the recent coverage of his passing is probably warranted since he was a public figure, and watching youtube videos of him just running through people like they weren't even there is really impressive, but gently caress I hate rugby.

And now I've contributed to the rugby overload. poo poo.

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006
relax and have a beer mate

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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I will, mate, but at the end of the day.

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