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Lotka Volterra posted:Why is "mainstream media" not decrying the fact that Trump is literally calling for people that disagree with him to be violently assaulted? Did you miss the period in this country where the mainstream media was 100% calling anyone opposed to war as Anti-America and pro-Jihad?
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Lotka Volterra posted:Why is "mainstream media" not decrying the fact that Trump is literally calling for people that disagree with him to be violently assaulted? I think if the Liberal Cable Media says that beating up black people is bad they'll lose their 70-year-old on average viewership.
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Nov 22, 2015 19:14
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Nov 22, 2015 19:15
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Lotka Volterra posted:Why is "mainstream media" not decrying the fact that Trump is literally calling for people that disagree with him to be violently assaulted? If they do they'll get blacklisted instantly, and Trump is the only ratings draw in this entire election. This primary is a constant referendum on media cravenness.
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Nov 22, 2015 19:17
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Lotka Volterra posted:Why is "mainstream media" not decrying the fact that Trump is literally calling for people that disagree with him to be violently assaulted? They really, really want him to win the primary so they'll shield him as necessary until he does.
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Nov 22, 2015 19:20
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SedanChair posted:I don't think even Hitler personally oversaw and goaded on rear end-kickings at public gatherings. Hitler tended to frame himself as the adult in the room who was more reasonable than some of his more thuggish underlings and would restrain them when necessary, at least to the larger voting public in the early 30s. Trump feels more like Rohm or Rosenberg.
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Nov 22, 2015 19:21
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Republicans posted:They really, really want him to win the primary so they'll shield him as necessary until he does. A lot of the media is rooting for Rubio. It's why people keep giving him superlatives his polling doesn't support.
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Nov 22, 2015 19:23
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Trabisnikof posted:A lot of the media is rooting for Rubio. It's why people keep giving him superlatives his polling doesn't support. Well yeah, they need a "not Trump" to make the primary seem interesting and they've already burned through Fiorina and Carson so now it's Rubio's turn. And once he's spent they'll move on to Cruz.
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Nov 22, 2015 19:34
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Can we start legitimately referring to Trump as a fascist yet? He's got the "policy of belligerent nationalism and racism" plank down pat, and now he's fine with his supporters beating up protesters so that checks off the "suppression of the opposition through terror or censorship" plank. If "fascism" doesn't fit him at this point, what does? This isn't a rhetorical question, if there's a term that better suits him I'd like to hear it.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Can we start legitimately referring to Trump as a fascist yet? He's got the "policy of belligerent nationalism and racism" plank down pat, and now he's fine with his supporters beating up protesters so that checks off the "suppression of the opposition through terror or censorship" plank. I'm fine with still referring to him as a Republican.
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Nov 22, 2015 19:50
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Trabisnikof posted:Did you miss the period in this country where the mainstream media was 100% calling anyone opposed to war as Anti-America and pro-Jihad? Yeah, but I was thinking we had started to move back into a more sane direction as opposed to just pretending we weren't brownshirts. DemeaninDemon posted:Trump might stop giving them access. saintonan posted:If they do they'll get blacklisted instantly, and Trump is the only ratings draw in this entire election. This primary is a constant referendum on media cravenness. It's sad that this is the most likely scenario, and another reason all mainstream media must die.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Can we start legitimately referring to Trump as a fascist yet? He's got the "policy of belligerent nationalism and racism" plank down pat, and now he's fine with his supporters beating up protesters so that checks off the "suppression of the opposition through terror or censorship" plank. Yes feel free to call him a fascist.
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Nov 22, 2015 19:51
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Lotka Volterra posted:It's sad that this is the most likely scenario, and another reason all mainstream media must die. On the other hand, Trump lives or dies, possibly literally, depending on how much media attention he can get and how much of a circus act he can make his campaign. That's more leverage on their side, if they aren't too dumb to realize it (a massive assumption on my part, admittedly).
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Nov 22, 2015 19:53
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Captain_Maclaine posted:On the other hand, Trump lives or dies, possibly literally, depending on how much media attention he can get and how much of a circus act he can make his campaign. That's more leverage on their side, if they aren't too dumb to realize it (a massive assumption on my part, admittedly). What about their quarterly ratings?
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Nov 22, 2015 20:00
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Teflon Don posted:He lives, he dies, he lives again pretty sure you could boil donald trumps entire existence down to the phrase "witness me"
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Captain_Maclaine posted:On the other hand, Trump lives or dies, possibly literally, depending on how much media attention he can get and how much of a circus act he can make his campaign. That's more leverage on their side, if they aren't too dumb to realize it (a massive assumption on my part, admittedly). this. I believe that even if he wins the nomination(which he has a decent chance at) he is screwed in the general election. i mean he is a loud radical dickhead bigot who lives in a literal palace of Versailles and with a trophy wife and probably a few bastards. the man is a bully and rear end in a top hat. and most of my moderate conservative relatives hate his guts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MbSaKgt5RE the comments of this video are amusing. anyway, i honestly dont think moderates/bluedogs/minorities/liberals/lefties will vote for him. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Nov 22, 2015 |
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Fried Chicken posted:Get ready to change the thread title again He openly politicized a terrorist attack, said it was good for the U.S., and admitted he will use it as campaign fodder ("not just for political advantage"). This should destroy Rubio, and yet it won't. Why is that? Do we truly live in a political climate where candidates can express openly the most heinous poo poo knowing that they can't actually be criticized? "The media misinterpreted..." "I'm just speaking on behalf of Americans too afraid to voice their opinions..." "Liberals are playing 'gotcha' with my statements..."
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Nov 22, 2015 20:43
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Fried Chicken posted:Get ready to change the thread title again Speaking a little bit too candidly Rubio. I am relieved though- I was starting to think that Rubio was going to be very good at not saying stupid things which would make him a formidable candidate for the GOP. Edit: This is how CNN is phrasing it: "Rubio: Focus on national security 'positive development'"
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Nov 22, 2015 20:46
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Naet posted:He openly politicized a terrorist attack, said it was good for the U.S., and admitted he will use it as campaign fodder ("not just for political advantage"). This should destroy Rubio, and yet it won't. Why is that? Do we truly live in a political climate where candidates can express openly the most heinous poo poo knowing that they can't actually be criticized? I was talking to someone about this earlier and I said "This will destroy Rubio's career.... oh wait" and then remembered its 2015 and we've lost our minds nothing seems to tank Republicans anymore. I kind of feel bad for Todd Akin. I feel like you could totally get away with "legitimate rape" today.
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Nov 22, 2015 20:47
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Mitt Romney posted:Speaking a little bit too candidly Rubio. I am relieved though- I was starting to think that Rubio was going to be very good at not saying stupid things which would make him a formidable candidate for the GOP. He was the only one left I thought stood a chance too. Bush could have had that but he saw what the office does to people.
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STAC Goat posted:I was talking to someone about this earlier and I said "This will destroy Rubio's career.... oh wait" and then remembered its 2015 and we've lost our minds nothing seems to tank Republicans anymore. I'm sure Vitter wishes that were true.
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Fried Chicken posted:Get ready to change the thread title again Gonna be real loving disappointed if Trump or maybe Jeb! doesn't hoist him from this one.
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Lotka Volterra posted:It's sad that this is the most likely scenario, and another reason all mainstream media must die. On the other hand, pushing more towards a decentralized news media means access is even more crucial for survival, giving campaigns more leverage and further reducing actual investigation and real questions
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On twitter, CBS headlined the video of the man being assaulted at the Trump rally as "Fight breaks out between black lives matter protester and trump supporters" 
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Welp, Rubio had one job which was, "just please don't say anything" and he done hosed it up. Consequences haven't been a running theme in this primary so far so I'm legit interested to see where this goes
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Bullfrog posted:On twitter, CBS headlined the video of the man being assaulted at the Trump rally as "Fight breaks out between black lives matter protester and trump supporters" Funny how these fights only break out between Trump supporters and minorities and never occur at other candidates' rallies. But pointing that out would be taking sides, wouldn't it?
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Gonna be real loving disappointed if Trump or maybe Jeb! doesn't hoist him from this one. Hahaha why would you think a Republican would get called out by other Republicans for warmongering and scaremongering?
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Mitt Romney posted:Edit: This is how CNN is phrasing it: "Rubio: Focus on national security 'positive development'" Bullfrog posted:On twitter, CBS headlined the video of the man being assaulted at the Trump rally as "Fight breaks out between black lives matter protester and trump supporters" Your liberal media at work, folks.
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Naet posted:He openly politicized a terrorist attack, said it was good for the U.S., and admitted he will use it as campaign fodder ("not just for political advantage"). This should destroy Rubio, and yet it won't. Why is that? Do we truly live in a political climate where candidates can express openly the most heinous poo poo knowing that they can't actually be criticized? except he said it on fox. if he had said it on any other network the right might look the other way on his stupid statement. but he was on home/safe soil when he said it. so he cant get away with blaming the "liberal" media.
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oooh he is going the racial realist rout. seems like he is trying to collect all the bigots.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:oooh he is going the racial realist rout. seems like he is trying to collect all the bigots. How much racial realism is based on made up statistics with no source or grounding in reality? For example, there is no such thing as a Crime Statistics Bureau in SF Investigating the "sources" on right wing meme posts has been pretty fun I must say. They really just put whatever they want, assured in the confidence that nobody will even google it
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Even giving the whole "twisting statistics to fit a narrative" angle, this isn't even true. The majority of white people are killed by white people, not black people. But watch the media not touch this at all.
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Naet posted:He openly politicized a terrorist attack, said it was good for the U.S., and admitted he will use it as campaign fodder ("not just for political advantage"). This should destroy Rubio, and yet it won't. Why is that? Do we truly live in a political climate where candidates can express openly the most heinous poo poo knowing that they can't actually be criticized? As mentioned above, the media are cowards and will never criticize a candidate for anything other than superficial things because it would jeopardize ratings and relationships with the corporations that fund them (never mind the oligarchs that own them are all in favor of promoting these guys at all costs, because their policies help them). The only thing that will likely cause the media to dog pile is if a politician is caught with a dead boy or a live girl, because access and cooperation with oligarchs isn't exactly an issue if the politician's dead in the water (and thus useless to the 0.1%) already. EDIT: Bullfrog posted:On twitter, CBS headlined the video of the man being assaulted at the Trump rally as "Fight breaks out between black lives matter protester and trump supporters" The truth is somewhere in the middle. The black lives matter protester is angry because blacks are being killed by the police, sure, but the Trump supporters deserve an echo box. I guess we'll just have to hem and haw and disagree and just let this pass, because maybe that protester was actually being annoying to those Trump supporters and deserved it! ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Nov 22, 2015 |
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SedanChair posted:Percent of what? I have no loving idea.
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SedanChair posted:Percent of what? Narrowly defined statistics that fit the narrative.
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