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Mr. Wiggles posted:Move somewhere with no rust. I recently did, it's quite nice. Also, Buick is becoming alarmingly good lately. http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2017-buick-lacrosse-official-photos-and-info-news 
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Wheeee posted:It does disengage at 40km/h, yea. Not so much saying the Toyota has a better AWD system as that it appears to have a good enough AWD system combined with not being a Subaru. Well they do acknowledge it's not a direct comparison of the AWD systems, it's a comparison of the vehicles as they came from the factory which for most of the public, which I think is their target audience for these comparisons, this is how they'll drive their cars. As they came from the factory. All that video really shows is that the forester is the best factory option for most of the general public. You can try to infer that it might come with better tires, has the best AWD system, best traction control programming, or whatever. But you'll need more appropriate testing to determine those things with a higher level of certainty.
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Nov 22, 2015 03:54
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Wheeee posted:With regard to that video, I have no dog in this fight, but any test like this which doesn't standardize tires and test all traction control and stability modes, including disabled (When you just need to get a car moving in Real Winter you generally want those off), is not very useful.
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Nov 22, 2015 04:24
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Mr. Wiggles posted:Move somewhere with no rust.
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Nov 22, 2015 04:25
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Wheeee posted:The year is 2016. When I had heard that they were investing $1 billion in AI research, I was hopeful that they'd be doing something cool. It turns out their goal is to create a car which will take control to prevent crashes, but not offer any real self-driving capability. Apparently, Toyota management is deluded enough to think that their customer base includes the people who complain about self-driving cars taking the fun out of driving.
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Nov 22, 2015 05:18
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Powershift posted:The honda ridgeline is probably gonna show up in detroit.
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Nov 22, 2015 07:23
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Wheeee posted:I recently did, it's quite nice. I really like the shape of the greenhouse.
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Nov 22, 2015 14:36
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Good looking car for it's segment. I wonder what the brand perception of Buick is amongst their target demographic. I know mine is skewed. 
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Nov 22, 2015 15:21
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If nothing else, I'm really glad they finally started coloring the TriShield again. It's a minor thing, but monochrome Buick badges always seemed like they were trying to hide the fact that it's a Buick. (Maybe they were )
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Nov 22, 2015 16:06
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Christobevii3 posted:So they are using the minivan platform this time? Didn't they start with the Odyssey last time too? At any rate I don't like how Honda is sticking the CRV in a photocopier and scaling it up. The proportions that work at that scale look janky as gently caress on a Pilot.
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Nov 22, 2015 18:22
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ilkhan posted:That looks like a super tiny cargo box for a truck. Welcome to 2016.  Tundry Crewmax with 5 1/2' bed.  Ford 5 1/2' bed.  Dodge with 5'-7" bed.  Chevy with 5 1/2' bed.
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Nov 22, 2015 18:54
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Yet try telling buyers they really want a sedan or a hatchback, and they yell at you.
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Nov 22, 2015 18:58
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CAFE killed large sedans. Manufacturers are basically penalized for building big sedans, but trucks with a sub 6 foot bed are good to go.
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Nov 22, 2015 19:07
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To be fair, that one time every 3-5 years that I need to pick up a refrigerator, washing machine, or other large appliance, it won't fit in the back of a large sedan or hatchback. Renting a truck on those occasions is for plebes. Also, I don't own a truck currently so I had to get my new washing machine delivered. It was terrible.
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Nov 22, 2015 19:16
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The Locator posted:To be fair, that one time every 3-5 years that I need to pick up a refrigerator, washing machine, or other large appliance, it won't fit in the back of a large sedan or hatchback. Renting a truck on those occasions is for plebes. http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehicleCode=M3H#photos-videos + http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/carry-on-trailer-mesh-floor-utility-trailer-4-ft-x-7-ft-2-000-gvwr You don't need a loving truck to carry a refrigerator.
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Nov 22, 2015 19:38
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KillHour posted:http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehicleCode=M3H#photos-videos My entire truck cost only $200 more than that trailer, and is a lot easier to back up big V8 sport sedan for daily driving, piece of poo poo truck for when I need a truck. If I charged other people to use it I could even make a profit!
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Nov 22, 2015 19:46
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CornHolio posted:My entire truck cost only $200 more than that trailer, and is a lot easier to back up I'm making the assumption he can't have / doesn't want a beater truck. Also, registration and insurance is a lot higher on a beater truck than a trailer. No point if you're only going to use it "once every 3-5 years." A hatch with a small trailer will handle the carrying needs of 99% of the population.
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Nov 22, 2015 19:52
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KillHour posted:http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehicleCode=M3H#photos-videos
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Nov 22, 2015 19:58
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Get something big enough to tow a Uhaul trailer, or rent a truck from Home Depot for $20 plus gas / mileage. A small Uhaul trailer only costs $15 to rent, no mileage fees, and it seems like places that have them on hand are loving everywhere.
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Nov 22, 2015 20:02
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5'8" beds are standard on crew cab trucks although you can usually get a 6' as an option. It's fine and once again AI is just bitching because for some reason the idea of a nice truck is verboten and these idiot sheeple should just buy sedans or a track rat Miata with a trailer hitch and God damnit after I get done replacing the entire cooling system on my piece of poo poo bmw I'm going to explain to them what they really need in a vehicle 
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Nov 22, 2015 20:16
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ilkhan posted:Depends on how often you need to carry that fridge. What, are you taking it back home to your parents' every weekend? Dislike button posted:5'8" beds are standard on crew cab trucks although you can usually get a 6' as an option. It's fine and once again AI is just bitching because for some reason the idea of a nice truck is verboten and these idiot sheeple should just buy sedans or a track rat Miata with a trailer hitch and God damnit after I get done replacing the entire cooling system on my piece of poo poo bmw I'm going to explain to them what they really need in a vehicle Or maybe just the point that most people don't actually need a truck. My dad has a truck, and he uses it all the time to carry mulch or gravel or whatever. My ex mother in law has a bigger truck and uses it to go to Walmart. KillHour fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Nov 22, 2015 |
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Nov 22, 2015 20:34
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I don't know about you guys, but I bought a semi for that one time I might move across the country. Gonna save myself some serious cash if it ever happens 
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Nov 22, 2015 20:35
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Most people don't need a race car or a 500 horsepower sedan or a Corvette either but get this: people like different things! loving weird right
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Nov 22, 2015 20:41
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Dislike button posted:Most people don't need a race car or a 500 horsepower sedan or a Corvette either but get this: people like different things! loving weird right That's fine, just be honest and say "I bought a giant truck because it improves my self image" or whatever, instead of "I need it to be able to bring home the appliances I buy once every 5 years".
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Nov 22, 2015 20:44
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I just keep a load of gravel in my bed at all times so the dudes driving around in their civics don't judge me
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Dislike button posted:Most people don't need a race car or a 500 horsepower sedan or a Corvette either but get this: people like different things! loving weird right You ain't too bright, maybe this will help you understand. Before you come back with more misused forum emotes: Nobody is saying people aren't allowed to like different things, shut up and go sit in your truck until you feel better.
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Dislike button posted:I just keep a load of gravel in my bed at all times so the dudes driving around in their civics don't judge me "I wonder why everyone in this neighborhood has chipped windshields?" GokieKS posted:That's fine, just be honest and say "I bought a giant truck because it improves my self image" or whatever, instead of "I need it to be able to bring home the appliances I buy once every 5 years". This.
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Dislike button posted:I just keep a load of gravel in my bed at all times so the dudes driving around in their civics don't judge me Only counts if you drop it into the bed from six feet up everyday.
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razorscooter posted:Only counts if you drop it into the bed from six feet up everyday. Just like in the commercials. Wheeee posted:You ain't too bright, maybe this will help you understand. I think you might have some brain problems. Here's an emote for you 
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GokieKS posted:That's fine, just be honest and say "I bought a giant truck because it improves my self image" or whatever, instead of "I need it to be able to bring home the appliances I buy once every 5 years". Or some people just like trucks, and that's where it ends. I laugh when I see people driving them that obviously have no use, but who loving cares?
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iwentdoodie posted:Or some people just like trucks, and that's where it ends. Yeah pretty much, no need to make it more complicated than it is.
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Throatwarbler posted:Hey guys remember when the EPA said the 3.0l V6 diesels were cheating too, and VW denied it? They've stopped denying it and admitted guilt. We had two tanks of gas, seventy-five droplets of additives, five feet of high power jumper cables, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored crimpers, connectors, fasteners, zip ties... and also a quart of Valvoline, a quart of Techron, a case of brake cleaner, a pint of raw urea, and two dozen port holes. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious Bug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.
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iwentdoodie posted:...but who loving cares? People like me who would love to drive a large, full size, RWD sedan (that isn't a "luxury" brand that is eating the CAFE fines) but can't, because they've been regulated out of existence. 
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MrYenko posted:People like me who would love to drive a large, full size, RWD sedan (that isn't a "luxury" brand that is eating the CAFE fines) but can't, because they've been regulated out of existence. You basically described most new trucks, that weigh similar and get better mileage in most cases. They're just taller. I'd love to have the same, but no one bought them when they DID exist outside of geriatrics, cops and taxi companies. So they died. Sucks, but it happened. Best you can do is go buy a panther.
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14 INCH DEVITO posted:We had two tanks of gas, seventy-five droplets of additives, five feet of high power jumper cables, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored crimpers, connectors, fasteners, zip ties... and also a quart of Valvoline, a quart of Techron, a case of brake cleaner, a pint of raw urea, and two dozen port holes. The only thing that really worried me was the urea. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a car in the depths of a urea binge. And I knew we'd get into that rotten stuff pretty soon. Probably at the next emissions station.
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MrYenko posted:People like me who would love to drive a large, full size, RWD sedan (that isn't a "luxury" brand that is eating the CAFE fines) but can't, because they've been regulated out of existence. Hyundai is probably the only one now Also apparently there's a smaller midsized rwd sedan coming for their new Genesis lineup
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MrYenko posted:People like me who would love to drive a large, full size, RWD sedan (that isn't a "luxury" brand that is eating the CAFE fines) but can't, because they've been regulated out of existence. I guess it depends on what your definition of "luxury brand" is, but generally those are still around and just called SUVs. There is the perpetually in development RWD Cadillac full-size that should be out soon although the CTS seems to be plenty big although not quite S-class big. I think the Genesis is more of a 5-series/E-class mid-size competitor. I'd love a used Marauder personally
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GokieKS posted:That's fine, just be honest and say "I bought a giant truck because it improves my self image" or whatever, instead of "I need it to be able to bring home the appliances I buy once every 5 years". Are people who buy trucks based on the basis of "I'll need it to bring home appliances every once in a while" really any different from the enthusiast crowd who claims "They need that 600 HP sedan and will totally track it every month!*" ? Also, while you can cram things into the back of a hatch or Tetris your way into a sedan, it is really nice to be able to just huck everything in the back or on the roof and be done with it. But perhaps this why we need a return of the small truck. Or just wait for proper full trunked station wagons to come back in vogue.
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ExplodingSims posted:Are people who buy trucks based on the basis of "I'll need it to bring home appliances every once in a while" really any different from the enthusiast crowd who claims "They need that 600 HP sedan and will totally track it every month!*" ? No. Now the people who demand 600 HP in their Caterham....
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ExplodingSims posted:Are people who buy trucks based on the basis of "I'll need it to bring home appliances every once in a while" really any different from the enthusiast crowd who claims "They need that 600 HP sedan and will totally track it every month!*" ? No, they aren't different at all they just value different things. Vehicles are emotional purchases otherwise we would all be driving stripper model Nissan Micras or whatever. Somewhat related but I saw a brown E63S wagon a few weeks ago that checks so many boxes but unfortunately costs about $115,000.
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