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 maybe, just maybe, this my most favorite of polling scenarios will come back from the dead http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_bush_vs_clinton_vs_trump-5551.html (clinton 43 bush 27 trump 23 based on july-august polling)
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Had to look up Gary Bauer and now I regret it. Please enjoy this video of Gary Bauer flipping pancakes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWUaN2HagRo
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paranoid randroid posted:considering the very narrow band of tolerance the Donald has for what constitutes "fairly", im v excited for his pique-fueled third party run yeah im pretty sure "fairly" means getting the nomination. Anything else would be inherently unfair to Trump. oystertoadfish posted:
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The AP had climate scientists grade the accuracy of candidates on global warming.quote:WASHINGTON (AP) -- When it comes to climate science, two of the three Democratic presidential candidates are A students, while most of the Republican contenders are flunking, according to a panel of scientists who reviewed candidates' comments.  at Cruz understanding climatology worse than a kindergartener.
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I really like the climate change issue because it's the only thing I can think of that lets me be objectively more right than my political opponents, instead of just subjectively.
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Jewel Repetition posted:I really like the climate change issue because it's the only thing I can think of that lets me be objectively more right than my political opponents, instead of just subjectively. To be fair, by virtue of not being a Republican you're already more right than any of the Republican candidates on any single issue, so there's always that.
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Trumps retweet is front page on gawker.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Donald Trump brought up the prospect of running indie again: Noice.
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what are these percentages of? and why is this not in a pie chart?
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point of return posted:what are these percentages of? and why is this not in a pie chart? If I'm reading this right, it's trying to say that of black people killed, 2% of them were killed by white people, 1% by police, 97% by other black people. And similarly for the white people killed: 3% by police, 16% by other white people, 81% by black people. Doesn't stop it from being made-up racist bullshit, but the numbers DO at least add up to 100%. Still terrible data presentation though.
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Waterboard me, Trump.
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"there will be a few days each decade or so when humans cannot survive outside"
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In other news I am so excited for the Jeb Bush campaign!!!
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Skellybones posted:"there will be a few days each decade or so when humans cannot survive outside" Completely different from rendering the planet uninhabitable. I can't believe Bernie used such exaggerated rhetoric
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Skellybones posted:"there will be a few days each decade or so when humans cannot survive outside" Maybe they're hoping Climate Change will finally bring down the ayatollah.
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Skellybones posted:"there will be a few days each decade or so when humans cannot survive outside" Good news though, it'll just cancel out areas near the poles that have become habitable! FYI: they're referring to wet bulb temperatures above 100 degrees. Think 115F with near 100% humidity. Right now the Persian gulf coast can get close to this. hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Nov 23, 2015 |
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can't wait until biden starts saying 'he's gonna put y'all back in chains'memy posted:Completely different from rendering the planet uninhabitable. I can't believe Bernie used such exaggerated rhetoric it is completely different
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Immortan posted:Noice.
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FlamingLiberal posted:There's nothing stopping him, and if they play convention games at the GOP in order to keep him from being their nominee, you better believe he'll pull a Ross Perot. How funny would it be if Trump got more popular votes running third party than the GOP candidate did in the general.
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Immortan posted:How funny would it be if Trump got more votes running third party than the GOP candidate in the general. just as funny as 1912 and just as good for the democratic candidate. just look at him laugh 
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oystertoadfish posted:just as funny as 1912 and just as good for the democratic candidate. just look at him laugh Yet somehow I don't think Hillary Clinton will fire most of the black people and put the few she can't fire in literal cages at work.
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I think today I'm ready to admit that Trump may no longer be the least objectionable republican candidate. Kasich 2016, sign me up!
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Skellybones posted:"there will be a few days each decade or so when humans cannot survive outside" http://www.wunderground.com/news/persian-gulf-heat-study You should be reading Jeff Master's blog if you care anything about weather and climate change. They are describing a Nature magazine article where they project heat index values of 170 degrees occurring regionally lasting for 6 hours happening every decade or so.
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Zeta Taskforce posted:http://www.wunderground.com/news/persian-gulf-heat-study So global warming is our anti-ISIS strategy now
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Yet somehow I don't think Hillary Clinton will fire most of the black people and put the few she can't fire in literal cages at work. he laughs at your concerns. oh just look at him laugh he was awful on civil liberties for whites too. massively overrated
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Lord of Pie posted:So global warming is our anti-ISIS strategy now When ISIS takes over Kuwait, then yeah. In a way it kind of serves them right, seeing how oil made those countries so rich and how opposed they are to limiting emissions
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Where is Boosted? Wouldn't mind hearing his hot takes on this rise of American nazism. What a time for smoothrich to be banned too.
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Zeta Taskforce posted:When ISIS takes over Kuwait, then yeah. In a way it kind of serves them right, seeing how oil made those countries so rich and how opposed they are to limiting emissions of course they'll just crank up the a/c while the migrant workers die the nature article is behind a paywall but a more general pnas article it cites is free http://www.pnas.org/content/107/21/9552.full quote:Recent studies have highlighted the possibility of large global warmings in the absence of strong mitigation measures, for example the possibility of over 7 °C of warming this century alone (1). Warming will not stop in 2100 if emissions continue. Each doubling of carbon dioxide is expected to produce 1.9–4.5 °C of warming at equilibrium, but this is poorly constrained on the high side (2, 3) and according to one new estimate has a 5% chance of exceeding 7.1 °C per doubling (4). Because combustion of all available fossil fuels could produce 2.75 doublings of CO2 by 2300 (5), even a 4.5 °C sensitivity could eventually produce 12 °C of warming. Degassing of various natural stores of methane and/or CO2 in a warmer climate (6, 7, 8) could increase warming further. Thus while central estimates of business-as-usual warming by 2100 are 3–4 °C, eventual warmings of 10 °C are quite feasible and even 20 °C is theoretically possible (9). bernie's exaggeration is way better than cruz' exaggerations, and the scientists agreed based on the scores they assigned the two candidates here's a discussion of the paper http://www.pnas.org/content/107/21/9483.full quote:Public concern over climate-change impacts has mostly focused on the economic, physical, and political domains. The consequences for various industries, agriculture, livelihoods, national gross domestic product, property, infrastructure, and electoral prospects have captured most attention. In this issue of PNAS, Sherwood and Huber (1) apply a longer than usual perspective on climate change and conclude that, because of limits to human tolerance of heat, much of Earth’s surface may not be habitable by 2300. Their important, related, and overarching statement is that “current assessments are underestimating the seriousness of climate change” (1). They argue that, whereas high-profile threats such as sea-level rise and economic slowdown have caused widespread anxieties, their impacts on human communities would pale into insignificance in a world that might, thermally, become partly or wholly uninhabitable by humans. so the first link is the real paper and the second is a somewhat more readable discussion oystertoadfish fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Nov 23, 2015 |
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Mr Hootington posted:Where is Boosted? Wouldn't mind hearing his hot takes on this rise of American nazism. Smoothrich agrees that "six million [Jews] is a little bit high."
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memy posted:Completely different from rendering the planet uninhabitable. I can't believe Bernie used such exaggerated rhetoric quote:Dessler said, "I would not say that the planet will become uninhabitable. Regardless of what we do, some humans will survive." nope unless every last human being is wiped out bernie sanders is a big fat liar
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quote:"The scientific community is telling us: if we do not address the global crisis of climate change, transform our energy system away from fossil fuels to sustainable energy, the planet that we’re going to be leaving our kids and our grandchildren may well not be inhabitable," Sanders said. "That is a major crisis." the article above projects regional uninhabitability at the upper end of projections by 2100 and offers the possibility of most of the inhabitable surface becoming uninhabitable by 2300. assuming a reasonable lifespan for our children and grandchildren sanders seems to have exaggerated. i'm sure plural scientists have said more extreme statements though
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oystertoadfish posted:the article above projects regional uninhabitability at the upper end of projections by 2100 and offers the possibility of most of the inhabitable surface becoming uninhabitable by 2300. assuming a reasonable lifespan for our children and grandchildren sanders seems to have exaggerated. i'm sure plural scientists have said more extreme statements though Pretty sure the planet that we're leaving our kids may one day become uninhabitable? That very same planet.
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The Real Paddy posted:Pretty sure the planet that we're leaving our kids may one day become uninhabitable? That very same planet. so the scientific umma says half the planet might be uninhabitable in 300 years. there's some sort of a baseline sanders says our grandkids may find the planet to be uninhabitable, using language that could extend his timeline indefinitely. graded 87/100 on truthiness cruz says 'there's been zero warming'. graded 6/100 it's true that sanders literally can't be incorrect. maybe the scientists took that into account when they assigned their meaningless score. but the characterization seems pretty fair to me edit: ima walk my original glib little bullshit statement back. what sanders said and what scientists say aren't 'completely different'. nobody's giving concrete statements, aside from that according to one measure sanders is 14.5 times more awesome than cruz. i assume clinton gets a higher score because she avoided saying anything interesting on the subject oystertoadfish fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Nov 23, 2015 |
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Depicting trump as hitler is a good way to try to get the democratic base to rally behind hillary more so. It only serves the purpose of trying to convince bern outs to vote for hill dog. It doesn't really make people less likely to vote for trump.
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Third World Reggin posted:Depicting trump as hitler is a good way to try to get the democratic base to rally behind hillary more so. It only serves the purpose of trying to convince bern outs to vote for hill dog. It doesn't really make people less likely to vote for trump. Remember when the right made all the "Obama is literally Hitler" political cartoons in 2008 and liberals abandoned him in droves and voted for Romney? That worked almost as well when as we got "George W Bush is literally Hitler" memes after Iraq that convinced everyone and ensured Kerry won the White House. I'm sure this time we got it guys, we found the real, actual Hitler, get the word out on facebook and twitter ASAP.
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Third World Reggin posted:Depicting trump as hitler is a good way to try to get the democratic base to rally behind hillary more so. It only serves the purpose of trying to convince bern outs to vote for hill dog. It doesn't really make people less likely to vote for trump. I gotta imagine there will be a few people who will be turned off by such blatant fascism Like, I gotta imagine for the sake of my soul
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When your friend or coworker says something good about Trump, DO NOT try to discuss it with him, or his policies, just pull out a portrait of Trump and a portrait of Hitler from your wallet, put them next to each other in his face and yell CANT YOU SEE?!
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Zelder posted:I gotta imagine there will be a few people who will be turned off by such blatant fascism It can't be fascism if I agree with it
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