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The Vosgian Beast posted:The story of Alexander Hamilton, but with a mostly black or Latino cast. "B-b-but it's not historically accurate!!" *ignores every single american movie depicting foreign language as just having a British accent, Jesus as a white european, vikings with horns on their hats, Abraham Lincoln's smooth deep sexy voice...*
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The Vosgian Beast posted:The story of Alexander Hamilton, but with a mostly black or Latino cast. I don't see how that necessarily translates into screaming bloody murder about white genocide.
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Merdifex posted:That's what led to Mencius "I think like a philosopher Is there any place where he explains why he chose Mencius (Mengzi) as his screen name? Because Mengzi is a really chill dude who is big on the inherent capability of every person to improve themselves, and is in favor of governments not waging war and instead making sure everyone has their basic needs taken care of. He's also the closest thing classical Confucianism has to a democrat; he explicitly states that a king is legitimated by the consent of the masses, and has been read to endorse popular uprising against unjust rulers. So it's seems he is pretty much the opposite of the NRx guys. If anyone, you'd think that they'd latch on to Xunzi or Han Feizi; they're the guys who think humans are inherently bad and need strong laws to keep them in line. Smiling Knight has a new favorite as of 02:24 on Nov 23, 2015 |
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point of return posted:Also what sort of name is "Moldbug" anyways It's the kind of name a villain in a lovely western fantasy RPG from the 90's would have so I always assumed he got it from one of those.
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Merdifex posted:On another hand, does anyone know what this Hamilton musical is about? Tumblr white supremacists are blowing their collective lid over it, Wesley in particular. the neoreactionaries are particularly annoyed because the rest of the Tumblr Rationalsphere is totally in love with it and can't stop talking about it. Merdifex posted:I don't see how that necessarily translates into screaming bloody murder about white genocide. white erasure, dude we will never mind nydwracu's previous detailed delineations between strains of white person and why they can't possibly get along
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How do these people define whiteness? Are Swedes white to them? Brazilians?
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Silver2195 posted:Roxana Alexander Thal/Melonhead crossbreed. Gendertrump. White/white/whiteself. Sedevacantist. Omegaverse.
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Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:Gendertrump. White/white/whiteself I'm so stealing this.
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http://urbit.org/docs/theory/network-goals Moldbug writes a thousand or so words for urbit; a service that no one is going to use.
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Merdifex posted:http://urbit.org/docs/theory/network-goals Networked Intercal with bitcoins. There are lucid people working on Urbit, I am told. And apparently it does things (unspecified). Whether it does things that make money is another matter, but Thiel is bankrolling it.
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Jack Gladney posted:How do these people define whiteness? Are Swedes white to them? Brazilians? It grows and contracts to fit whatever point they are currently making.
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Hofstadter uses white/whiteself in a short essay as a reductio against gendered pronouns, IIRC.Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:Thal/Melonhead crossbreed. Oh man I had almost forgotten about that particular variety of crazy.
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Oligopsony posted:Hofstadter uses white/whiteself in a short essay as a reductio against gendered pronouns, IIRC. I'm sure the people who temporarily embraced it would also like you to forget it.
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Even hacker news isn't drinking the koolaid https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10508935
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Merdifex posted:Even hacker news isn't drinking the koolaid https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10508935 One of the funnier things about Clarkhat is that he drank all of the koolaid and thinks it proves Moldbug is some kind of visionary genius technologist
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BobHoward posted:One of the funnier things about Clarkhat is that he drank all of the koolaid and thinks it proves Moldbug is some kind of visionary genius technologist Yeah I remember that post. Clark figured out absolutely nothing about hoon or urbit that was useful but concluded that Moldbug was an incomprehensible genius.
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BobHoward posted:One of the funnier things about Clarkhat is that he drank all of the koolaid and thinks it proves Moldbug is some kind of visionary genius technologist Clark is one of these strange people who seems to have drunk all the koolaids.
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Merdifex posted:Yeah I remember that post. Clark figured out absolutely nothing about hoon or urbit that was useful but concluded that Moldbug was an incomprehensible genius. Well we are talking about an intellect so vast it whines about leftist intellectual cowardice and censorship when blog owners rapidly conclude that it's a troll and block it from commenting. (I wouldn't be entirely surprised if Clarkhat is some kind of long term performance art troll ala TobleroneTriangular, but if so, he doesn't really match up to the master. It amazes me that Ken White puts up with him.)
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BobHoward posted:(I wouldn't be entirely surprised if Clarkhat is some kind of long term performance art troll ala TobleroneTriangular, but if so, he doesn't really match up to the master. It amazes me that Ken White puts up with him.) "why does Ken put up with Clark" is one of the mysteries for the ages. Ken is a right-wing libertarian, but he's like coherent and comprehensible and partakes of consensus reality.
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divabot posted:"why does Ken put up with Clark" is one of the mysteries for the ages. Ken is a right-wing libertarian, but he's like coherent and comprehensible and partakes of consensus reality. Ken killed someone and Clark was the only witness.
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The events of the past several days have me wondering how the NRx assholes are reacting. And then I started to wonder if any of them participated in the planning, given that pastebin showing an email chain of white supremacists explicitly planning to show up to Black Lives Matter protests armed with the intent of antagonizing, confronting, and shooting protestors.
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eschaton posted:The events of the past several days have me wondering how the NRx assholes are reacting. If any of them kill anyone, rest assured that they will be characterized as mentally ill loners and their participation in reactionary discourse will be ignored in the press and minimized by their peers.
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Jack Gladney posted:If any of them kill anyone, rest assured that they will be characterized as mentally ill loners and their participation in reactionary discourse will be ignored in the press and minimized by their peers. Just like the media ignored Dylann Roof's connections to internet white nationalism as long as they could help it. There's no way there are entire networks of like-minded people who may commit such acts in the future and aren't Islamists.
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Jack Gladney posted:If any of them kill anyone, rest assured that they will be characterized as mentally ill loners and their participation in reactionary discourse will be ignored in the press and minimized by their peers. I wouldn't put it past Clark to be openly smug and preening about it. The likes of nydwracu using a whole lot of purple prose to excuse it.
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Pussy Cartel posted:I wouldn't put it past Clark to be openly smug and preening about it. The likes of nydwracu using a whole lot of purple prose to excuse it. What did they say about that fucker who photographed himself with a gun and the Rhodesian flag before shooting up a church? The freep crowd unanimously declared him a false flag attack secretly planned by Obama.
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A nice piece from quoms on Tumblr:quoms posted:one of the most fascinating and underexamined contradictions in neoreaction is their contention that society should simultaneously be set up with a ‘monarchic’ political form and with preservation of the family (and of the race) as some kind of teleological goal; that is, that it should be both king-centered and kin-centered. i am pretty sure you can’t do this. if you look at the actual functioning of monarchies it’s only the noble class that have an incentive to care a lot about their family and the composition and continuity thereof, since under the feudal system that’s how property works. the people with very little or no property could give a poo poo Reactionaries are Hyacinth Bucket in the general case. They cannot conceive of a world in which aping the upper classes is not the only way to live. In this case a fantasy upper class where their ideas lead to monarchy that leads a stable society and not to centuries of war and Carlos II. Also, history is for picking examples from that support your ideas and not in any way for double-checking for hints that any of your ideas might not hold.
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Merdifex posted:the media ignored Dylann Roof's connections to internet white nationalism as long as they could help it.
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Cingulate posted:Can you somehow quantify or corroborate this? Can you somehow go gently caress yourself?
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Cingulate posted:Can you somehow quantify or corroborate this? You don't remember the "debate" about how he was really targeting Christians and not black people? Also the common refrain about mental health? EDIT: didn't see the poster. Go gently caress yourself.
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divabot posted:A nice piece from quoms on Tumblr: Reactos like to go on about how they're choosing reals over feels and learning horrifying facts everyone else is too PC to see, but they tend to end up fairly well off in their ideal state. Show me someone who says that in an ideal society, they themselves would be subhuman chattel or utterly eliminated, then I'll listen.
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Jack Gladney posted:You don't remember the "debate" about how he was really targeting Christians and not black people? Also the common refrain about mental health? I'm gonna pull a cingulate here and point out that cingulate is from not-america and probably doesn't actually have regular exposure to the American media that did this.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I'm gonna pull a cingulate here and point out that cingulate is from not-america and probably doesn't actually have regular exposure to the American media that did this. He also believes the yellow press is above all criticism as criticizing them is horribly elitist. So if something like Fox News says something it really should just be accepted as a fact.
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ArchangeI posted:He also believes the yellow press is above all criticism as criticizing them is horribly elitist. So if something like Fox News says something it really should just be accepted as a fact. Maybe I, like Scott, take center-left discourse to be more dominant than it is, but I never came upon any articles about Roof that didn't simply take for granted that the guy who shot a bunch of black people after posting a manifesto explaining in great detail why and how he hates blacks and how they should be murdered was, in fact, motivated by racism.
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I saw (but didn't read) articles with titles about 'Christianity under attack' or words to that effect, but they were from right-wing outlets rather than 'the media' as a whole. However I'm also not American.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I'm gonna pull a cingulate here and point out that cingulate is from not-america and probably doesn't actually have regular exposure to the American media that did this. Maybe. You're 100% spot-on that I don't have regular exposure to mainstream US media though. Peel posted:I saw (but didn't read) articles with titles about 'Christianity under attack' or words to that effect, but they were from right-wing outlets rather than 'the media' as a whole. However I'm also not American.
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I made no claim about The Media™ denying Roof's racism, but rather obfuscating his connections to the white supremacist and white nationalist movements in America and on the internet. Dangerous far-right ideology thriving on the internet and in the fringes of America rarely enters into the discourse when it comes to Roof and his racist murders.
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Cingulate posted:Ah okay. Makes sense, I misread you. I love that we can still be civil 
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