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Kristov posted:But yeah. The problem in America is that poor people have no money. However you want to solve this problem will work so long as the end result is poor people have more money. We already pay farmers a poo poo load of money in subsidies, why don't we just go all the way and nationalize food production and give every american free food (obviously some restrictions would need to apply). Oh that's right... people (re: assholes) think that if the poor ate steak every night it wouldn't be special to order it well done at black angus. 
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Kristov posted:Pretty sure social working is outside the scope of a hospital's mission. Traditionally this is arresting imminent death, not warding off looming death. Not if a hospital wants to lower readmission rates it ain't. A hospital should loom off death, and not arrest death.
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SedanChair posted:Ah ok That's from a statement by the students so you really should take it with a grain of salt. e: The student who was "devastated" by her remarks lol
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Nov 23, 2015 17:47
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The Kingfish posted:That's from a statement by the students so you really should take it with a grain of salt. Nah, I was just looking for the context of what she actually said and there it is. She's a clueless moron and should die working at a gas station.
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Nov 23, 2015 17:50
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I've discovered one weird trick to not saying the n-word and conservatives hate me!
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Nov 23, 2015 17:51
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Kristov, I think our disagreement is one of perspective: you see it as government's role to loom off death, while I see it as the role of the nonprofit sector, to which your hospital more than likely belongs. If anything, it is the government's sole authority to impose death; for why do we have a government, if not to have it as the sole lawful authority able to impose death?
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lol, ok sc. *tousles your hair*
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The only time anybody should say the N word is in a completely historical context in a class about the history of white people being terrible to African Americans.
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ratbert90 posted:The only time anybody should say the N word is in a completely historical context in a class about the history of white people being terrible to African Americans. If only that assistant professor used the term 'Mondays' or 'Canadians' like a good blue-collar worker, sheesh. zoux posted:I've discovered one weird trick to not saying the n-word and conservatives hate me! What is 'coding' for $1,000, Alex?
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Nov 23, 2015 17:54
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My Imaginary GF posted:If only that assistant professor used the term 'Mondays' or 'Canadians' like a good blue-collar worker, sheesh. Why couldn't she just say "N word" ?
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Nov 23, 2015 17:55
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A Winner is Jew posted:We already pay farmers a poo poo load of money in subsidies, why don't we just go all the way and nationalize food production and give every american free food (obviously some restrictions would need to apply). Considering the mechanism by which much of the subsidies work, the government already buys tons of food and is free to give it out, if they wanted, to the poor. Though it'd be kinda hard for your average person to deal with sacks of unprocessed crops.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Get ready for more handwringing about God drat uppity college students! Saying "the n-word" is silly. Make air quotes if you feel the need but there is a difference between using a word and mentioning a word. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use%E2%80%93mention_distinction
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Ugh look more pics of that illegal immigrant promoting benevolence and poo poo  
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ratbert90 posted:The only time anybody should say the N word is in a completely historical context in a class about the history of white people being terrible to African Americans. What if I'm singing along to Snoop, Dre, Cube, Pac, Jay Z, or NWA? Asking for a friend...
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I can't wait for one of them to rewatch It's a Wonderful Life and have Fox n Friends defend Mr. Potter. Don't be such a square, Potterville looked like a blast.
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ratbert90 posted:Why couldn't she just say "N word" ? That infantalizes the word, doesn't it?
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A Winner is Jew posted:What if I'm singing along to Snoop, Dre, Cube, Pac, Jay Z, or NWA? I'm white, sorry; can't help ya.  My Imaginary GF posted:That infantalizes the word, doesn't it? Considering the social and historical stigmas on this particular racial slur, I don't care.
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The Kingfish posted:lol, ok sc. I mean, you can always present an alternate opinion at the next White Student Union meeting.
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fishmech posted:Considering the mechanism by which much of the subsidies work, the government already buys tons of food and is free to give it out, if they wanted, to the poor. Though it'd be kinda hard for your average person to deal with sacks of unprocessed crops. So idea. What if we gave poor people the job of processing those crops... and then gave them the processed crops after?
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My Imaginary GF posted:That infantalizes the word, doesn't it? Huck's friend, N-Word Jim
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Combed Thunderclap posted:Ugh look more pics of that illegal immigrant promoting benevolence and poo poo I do believe that comic was made during a time when most refugees were still deserving, like Poles and Hungarians in Europe. baw posted:Huck's friend, N-Word Jim When we outlaw English class, only outlaws will read.
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Nov 23, 2015 17:58
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A Winner is Jew posted:We already pay farmers a poo poo load of money in subsidies, why don't we just go all the way and nationalize food production and give every american free food (obviously some restrictions would need to apply). On a deeper American cuisine is just a wreck from the combo of "high calorie for fieldwork -> early 1900s moralism and ethnic issues wipe out a lot of dishes and schools brought over -> Great Depression wipes out budding uniquely American traditions -> mass canning/marketing buries taught skills between generations -> subsidies go to those entrenched mass production groups -> coordinated campaign to keep on subsidized food" So much of truly American culture that was built around the good taste, good health, and purchasing power of someone from here got blown up over the past century in favor of "CONSUME CORN"
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Fried Chicken posted:On a deeper American cuisine is just a wreck from the combo of "high calorie for fieldwork -> early 1900s moralism and ethnic issues wipe out a lot of dishes and schools brought over -> Great Depression wipes out budding uniquely American traditions -> mass canning/marketing buries taught skills between generations -> subsidies go to those entrenched mass production groups -> coordinated campaign to keep on subsidized food" This is why Chicago is such a great city: We have the nation's premiere foodie culture.
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My Imaginary GF posted:If only that assistant professor used the term 'Mondays' or 'Canadians' like a good blue-collar worker, sheesh. She is getting thrown under the bus because of the context that she said it in ie because she said she doesn't notice racism everywhere which is the wrong thing to think and say if you want to keep yuor job in academia.
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Nov 23, 2015 18:00
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Kro-Bar posted:PPP has a fun new poll out just in time for Thanksgiving. I'm voting Hilldog, but I'd take either Bernie or Trump over her as a Thanksgiving guest. Unless Bill comes with, then Hillary shoots back to the top.
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The Kingfish posted:She is getting thrown under the bus because of the context that she said it in ie because she said she doesn't notice racism everywhere which is the wrong thing to think and say if you want to keep your job in academia. Well; academia IS supposed to favor the fairly intelligent. Sounds like she would be more suited to be a politician instead. 
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ratbert90 posted:Well; academia IS supposed to favor the fairly intelligent. Sounds like she would be more suited to be a politician instead.
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My Imaginary GF posted:This is why Chicago is such a great city: We have the nation's premiere foodie culture. Lol, your "pizzas" are an abomination and lose you any rights to claim food supremacy.
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Flobbster posted:Lol, your "pizzas" are an abomination and lose you any rights to claim food supremacy. John Stewart of course says it all perfectly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrqSizC-T-4 
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The Kingfish posted:
Given that line about her having a history of being unsympathetic toward students, this well could be a last straw sort of deal.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Get ready for more handwringing about God drat uppity college students! My wife said it in a class she taught, in an academic context, it was literally part of the text of the play they were studying. And she did get a complaint, luckily the student offended came directly to her after the class, my wife apologized, and apologized further to the entire class at the next lecture. It never went further or to adminstration. She's not from here (the deep south) though, she's from Chicago and New York and naively thought such a thing could be uttered in the proper academic context without offending someone. I was pretty upset with her naivety and begged her not do something so stupid and possibly jeopardize her career again. She still teaches material at the same level of provocativeness, but only about feminist issues never about racial anymore. Is this a good thing? That students if they are going to learn about provocative racial material written by black authors, they are only going to hear it from a black professor, a black professor they'll probably never actually have cause there's like two in the department(and every time they hire more the other professors having just secured tenure get new job offers for higher pay our university can't compete with)? I don't really think so.
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NY pizza is greasy floppy garbage while Chicago pizza is actually the best.
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A Winner is Jew posted:So idea. You mean like a method of... sharing these crops?
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greatn posted:My wife said it in a class she taught, in an academic context, it was literally part of the text of the play they were studying. And she did get a complaint, luckily the student offended came directly to her after the class, my wife apologized, and apologized further to the entire class at the next lecture. It never went further or to adminstration. She's not from here (the deep south) though, she's from Chicago and New York and naively thought such a thing could be uttered in the proper academic context without offending someone. I was pretty upset with her naivety and begged her not do something so stupid and possibly jeopardize her career again. I think the n-word is by itself in terms of offensiveness and historical context and that word coming out of a white mouth no matter the context has the power to injure. So I don't ever say it.
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The Kingfish posted:NY pizza is greasy floppy garbage while Chicago pizza is actually the best. If you can't eat it without a fork and knife, it ain't pizza
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I can't wait for one of them to rewatch It's a Wonderful Life and have Fox n Friends defend Mr. Potter. They did, in the same Lego Movie rant.
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Greatbacon posted:If you can't eat it without a fork and knife, it ain't pizza Apparently he doesn't know the the only way to eat a pizza is to fold it.
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The Kingfish posted:NY pizza is greasy floppy garbage while Chicago pizza is actually the best. Chicago "pizza" isn't pizza. zoux posted:I think the n-word is by itself in terms of offensiveness and historical context and that word coming out of a white mouth no matter the context has the power to injure. So I don't ever say it. While I tend to agree, I have on the odd occasion found it impossible not to use it when quoting some specific historical figure (the most recent time I remember being when I brought up Muhammad Ali's resistance to the draft during Vietnam), though I always preface the line with a disclaimer, both to make sure the students who haven't been paying attention don't mishear me and think I've suddenly turned klansman, and also because to no be a giant rear end in a top hat.
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I also feel the strong urge to use racial slurs in my day to day life, and do not understand how this could be an issue
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Flobbster posted:Lol, your "pizzas" are an abomination and lose you any rights to claim food supremacy. Our pizzas don't leave children with malnutrition nor diabetes. Reform SNAP to only be usable on deep-dish pizzas. ratbert90 posted:Apparently he doesn't know the the only way to eat a pizza is to fold it. You can't fold real pizza.
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