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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Well this is a sure fire way to win hearts and minds Again, I think it's fairly clearly established that a LOT of people arguing in this thread are not interested in winning hearts and minds.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Well this is a sure fire way to win hearts and minds And as we all know, as a black woman that's my sole goal in life.
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stinkles1112 posted:Again, I think it's fairly clearly established that a LOT of people arguing in this thread are not interested in winning hearts and minds. Chicago being the best pizza in America wins over hearts and minds.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Chicago being the best pizza in America wins over hearts and minds. Chicago is a city not a pizza, you dummy Edit: although you might be on to something... Chicago should try being one big pizza instead of a city and then maybe it wouldn't be so awful sit on my Facebook fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Nov 23, 2015 |
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Nov 23, 2015 21:24
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Look how ignorant you are about literally everything.  Mayo Sandwiches. Is that a thing that White Folk are supposed to enjoy? Sounds dreadfully unpleasant for being so unhealthy.It may come as a surprise, but quoting "The Letter from Birmingham Jail" isn't some sort of magic bullet for discussion about messaging. The way you're using it, is to shut down discussion entirely. I want BLM to succeed in their endeavors. Come Or shout at clouds of course. That's always an option.
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Chicago deli pizza is the actual best pizza, but it doesn't seem to exist in the rest of the country.Talmonis posted:
"Don't be the same tiresome white rear end in a top hat obstructing black activism with his fatuous nitpicking since time immemorial" is very much a discussion that needs to happen. If you're not capable of listening to that discussion without pissing your dockers about it that's no one's fault but yours. Tiny Brontosaurus fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Nov 23, 2015 |
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Nov 23, 2015 21:25
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Well this is a sure fire way to win hearts and minds Anybody making a big deal over needing to be "won over" isn't worth bothering with. Treating them like lepers should suffice.
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My Imaginary GF posted:He wasn't a millenial. Yes, it's this generation of young people that are uniquely bad. Much worse than all those that came before them....said everyone since socrates.
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Ron Jeremy posted:Yes, it's this generation of young people that are uniquely bad. Much worse than all those that came before them....said everyone since socrates. Can a generation ever be worse than the one which comes before it? Just because some greek bitches about kids doesn't make millenials not uniquely horrid.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Can a generation ever be worse than the one which comes before it? Just because some greek bitches about kids doesn't make millenials not uniquely horrid. Yes, and they were called boomers. 
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:And as we all know, as a black woman that's my sole goal in life. If we lived in a perfect world, racial/social justice would be self-evident and this whole argument would be moot but we don't so tone and messaging matters. It sucks and is unfair but it's also the way it is 
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My Imaginary GF posted:Can a generation ever be worse than the one which comes before it? Just because some greek bitches about kids doesn't make millenials not uniquely horrid. -A Bitter GenXer
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:So you literally don't feel any frission of self-loathing when you openly state that you refuse to help oppressed people unless they suck your cock about it first?  I don't need to be won over. I'm already "Over". But the stupid people in the middle who decide elections? They do. They always do. It doesn't matter the issue or topic. They need to be pandered to, patted on the head and convinced they're right. It has always been that way.
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Starting so strong against Millennials this early says more about the speaker than the subject. Someone's got a lot of blame they've gotta load onto someone else. I'll still give GenX another 15-20 years before I unilaterally condemn them.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:So you literally don't feel any frission of self-loathing when you openly state that you refuse to help oppressed people unless they suck your cock about it first? it's frisson just fyi
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Knight posted:Starting so strong against Millennials this early says more about the speaker than the subject. Someone's got a lot of blame they've gotta load onto someone else. I'll still give GenX another 15-20 years before I unilaterally condemn them. Face it, millenials are the coddled generation who can't handle the real world. Whatever happened to locking your kids outside and telling them to be back at 6 for supper or else they get no food?
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Greatbacon posted:-A Bitter GenXer Why would a GenXer be bitter, we're the group that gets neither blame nor criticism? That said while the generation terms are bizarre and usually meaningless I do think there's a real divide between people who grew up with a meaningful Internet and those who didn't. My office has some student workers and new hires that simply don't have a frame of reference for pre-internet in a way that I don't think could be replicated before, largely because of the speed of adoption. Maybe the rate of car adoption may be similar?
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My Imaginary GF posted:Face it, millenials are the coddled generation who can't handle the real world.
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Being forced to suck a dick is a pretty good lesson in humility everyone should learn. Vote for me.
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I suspect the crux of the messaging issue is that our right-leaning country has convinced itself that being inclined towards racist ideas about black people is a moderate position.
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:Being forced to suck a dick is a pretty good lesson in humility everyone should learn. Vote for me. I better get to choose the dick. If not, no deal.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:If we lived in a perfect world, racial/social justice would be self-evident and this whole argument would be moot but we don't so tone and messaging matters. I read your posts a lot. I know you're intelligent (isn't that such a sweet ~*~tone~*~?) So I know you're smart enough to be capable of self-awareness. You're smart enough to know there's a history of power-havers sighing and saying "Gee I'd love for you oppressed people to meet your goals, but you're just too confrontational about it." You're smart enough to realize, if you'd just shift yourself to do a few minutes of thinking, how incredibly unbecoming it is for you to be one of those people. How directly it opposes your stated politics, your self-image of yourself as a good person who wants good things for the world. Every time you nitpick a message you claim to support you're lying to yourself. TheQat posted:it's frisson just fyi  stop oppressing me (thanks, I've never gotten a handle on that one)
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:Being forced to suck a dick is a pretty good lesson in humility everyone should learn. Vote for me. I want Bork Lazer to run for high office now.
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GlitchThief posted:I suspect the crux of the messaging issue is that our right-leaning country has convinced itself that being inclined towards racist ideas about black people is a moderate position. Most folks don't think they're racist or that the problematic ideas they hold are racist. That's why they need to be shown otherwise, and that it has a real effect on real people. It can be done. It has been done.
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Knight posted:Why did you coddle them? I didn't; unfortunately, America's PC culture did.
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Talmonis posted:
Yeah, everyone knows white folk don't use mayo. We exclusively eat Miracle Whip sandwiches.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I read your posts a lot. I know you're intelligent (isn't that such a sweet ~*~tone~*~?) So I know you're smart enough to be capable of self-awareness. You're smart enough to know there's a history of power-havers sighing and saying "Gee I'd love for you oppressed people to meet your goals, but you're just too confrontational about it." You're smart enough to realize, if you'd just shift yourself to do a few minutes of thinking, how incredibly unbecoming it is for you to be one of those people. How directly it opposes your stated politics, your self-image of yourself as a good person who wants good things for the world. Every time you nitpick a message you claim to support you're lying to yourself. 'kay
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Simply Sara, Macaroni Salad is pretty bad, that said, I've only ever seen my white friend eat pierogies, very ownage.
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Zachack posted:Why would a GenXer be bitter, we're the group that gets neither blame nor criticism? I dunno, ask MIGF. I was just making an educated guess into what generation cohort they fell into. Not a lot of boomers on the forums and Millenials tend to target their aggression at GenX and Boomers, not themselves.
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Hahaha, clock boy is suing the city, this is going to dominate the gently caress outta the headlines: http://www.inquisitr.com/2586645/clock-kid-ahmed-mohamed-threatens-to-sue-city-wants-an-apology-and-15-million-says-attorney/ quote:Ahmed Mohamed, the 14-year-old Muslim teenager who earlier this year was suspended from school and taken into police custody for bringing a homemade clock to school, is asking the City of Irving for $15 million in compensation, as well as demanding an apology, The Dallas Morning News is reporting. If they fail to pay up, they can expect a lawsuit.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I read your posts a lot. I know you're intelligent (isn't that such a sweet ~*~tone~*~?) So I know you're smart enough to be capable of self-awareness. You're smart enough to know there's a history of power-havers sighing and saying "Gee I'd love for you oppressed people to meet your goals, but you're just too confrontational about it." You're smart enough to realize, if you'd just shift yourself to do a few minutes of thinking, how incredibly unbecoming it is for you to be one of those people. How directly it opposes your stated politics, your self-image of yourself as a good person who wants good things for the world. Every time you nitpick a message you claim to support you're lying to yourself. Noone here is saying anything you are claiming they are saying.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Hahaha, clock boy is suing the city, this is going to dominate the gently caress outta the headlines: good on him.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Hahaha, clock boy is suing the city, this is going to dominate the gently caress outta the headlines: Are these suits outcomes determined by juries, or liberal activist judges?
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pathetic little tramp posted:Hahaha, clock boy is suing the city, this is going to dominate the gently caress outta the headlines: Holy poo poo, yes. Get yours, Ahmed!
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pathetic little tramp posted:Hahaha, clock boy is suing the city, this is going to dominate the gently caress outta the headlines: Did the school district do anything to that boy that they wouldn't have done to another? I think not. Besides, hasn't that kid moved over to the mideast to attend a school in Qatar? Sounds like he never was conerned with American educational policies to begin with.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I read your posts a lot. I know you're intelligent (isn't that such a sweet ~*~tone~*~?) So I know you're smart enough to be capable of self-awareness. You're smart enough to know there's a history of power-havers sighing and saying "Gee I'd love for you oppressed people to meet your goals, but you're just too confrontational about it." You're smart enough to realize, if you'd just shift yourself to do a few minutes of thinking, how incredibly unbecoming it is for you to be one of those people. How directly it opposes your stated politics, your self-image of yourself as a good person who wants good things for the world. Every time you nitpick a message you claim to support you're lying to yourself. Tone might be important when trying to convince someone to think a way thats different from the way they used to think hth.
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Humans Among Us posted:Noone here is saying anything you are claiming they are saying. I guess they need to work on their messaging.
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Humans Among Us posted:Noone here is saying anything you are claiming they are saying. Please tell Peter to stay out of it. The Kingfish posted:Tone might be important when trying to convince someone to think a way thats different from the way they used to think hth. This has been debunked time and time again. I'm astonished you don't know that, since you're such an expert on the history of civil rights.
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Nonsense posted:Are these suits outcomes determined by juries, or liberal activist judges? Either, depending on how the parties involved want to handle it. Or neither, since it'll almost definitely be settled out of court.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Hahaha, clock boy is suing the city, this is going to dominate the gently caress outta the headlines: Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you get the city to pay out $15 million, doesn't that affect the city's budget and their ability to invest in important programs?
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