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Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

twistedmentat posted:

90% of John Romero's income was spent in maintaining that mane of hair.

Speaking of hair, I saw a dude with a mullet (and an kaiser bill) the other day, and I though "drat, why do people keep trying to bring that thing back?" and also remembered how the mullet did get its start in the 80s, I always associate it with the 90s because it was everywhere. Movie starts would have them done in their latest roles, and they were all over tv. Pretty much every boy in family sitcoms had them, and they were artfully arranged for maximum business up front, party in the back.


That just seems like a weird attempt to target a market that wouldn't be interested in pickups. Though its nice to see a truck ad that isn't "A MAN MANLY MAN HAS A TRUCK! GET ONE human being!".

90s SNL was probably its second golden age. Everyone watched it, everyone knew the players and the characters. Sketches were generally pretty strong, and often would create an catchphrase or character that everyone would be talking about on monday. I think the cast in the early 90s just knew what people wanted and were real zeitgeists of the day. Obviously it didn't remain as strong as many of them left to pursue movie careers to varying success. Mango was no Pat.

Looking at the cast list, for some reason I thought Tina Fey was in the cast earlier than 2000. And Will Farrell was on a lot earlier than I remember.

I'm pretty sure Tina Fey would have small roles for some time, having been a writer for years before becoming a full fledged cast member. Perhaps that's what's screwing with your memory.

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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Choco1980 posted:

I'm pretty sure Tina Fey would have small roles for some time, having been a writer for years before becoming a full fledged cast member. Perhaps that's what's screwing with your memory.

That's almost certainly it.

eminkey2003
Oct 11, 2009

twistedmentat posted:

90s SNL was probably its second golden age. Everyone watched it, everyone knew the players and the characters. Sketches were generally pretty strong, and often would create an catchphrase or character that everyone would be talking about on monday. I think the cast in the early 90s just knew what people wanted and were real zeitgeists of the day. Obviously it didn't remain as strong as many of them left to pursue movie careers to varying success. Mango was no Pat.

Looking at the cast list, for some reason I thought Tina Fey was in the cast earlier than 2000. And Will Farrell was on a lot earlier than I remember.

It also launched a bunch of movie careers, like Adam Sandler, Rob Schneider, Mike Meyers, Chris Farley, David Spade...

This sketch is pretty goshdarn 90s: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/schmitts-gay/n10163

And y'know, it's weird to see that people did Seinfeld impressions as early as 1992: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/standup-and-win/2868123

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Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Rob Schneider was the herpes of the movie industry in the 90s

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003


The most 90s thing about that is that you could still buy a new vehicle for a 4 figure price.
That advertising must have done something because the late-90s was when the truck and SUV craze started and everyone and their mother had to drive the largest vehicle possible.

On the topic of 90s car stuff:



In high school I could fill the 26 gallon tank on my hand-me-down 80s Buick land-barge, pay with a $20 and get change back.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

eminkey2003 posted:

It also launched a bunch of movie careers, like Adam Sandler, Rob Schneider, Mike Meyers, Chris Farley, David Spade...

This sketch is pretty goshdarn 90s: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/schmitts-gay/n10163

That sketch is amazing for so many reasons. It's pretty much note for note a take-off on a "straight" beer commercial I remember existing before that. Not to mention how insane it was to make such a pro-gay sketch in nineteen freakin ninety one! The entire joke was making beer commercials just as party-bro objectifying as the straight status quo commercials and that's it. No effeminate lisps, no man-in-dress gags, nothing. Just two frat boy types ogling dicks. Again, in 1991.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

The_Franz posted:

The most 90s thing about that is that you could still buy a new vehicle for a 4 figure price.
That advertising must have done something because the late-90s was when the truck and SUV craze started and everyone and their mother had to drive the largest vehicle possible.

On the topic of 90s car stuff:



In high school I could fill the 26 gallon tank on my hand-me-down 80s Buick land-barge, pay with a $20 and get change back.

A lot of that also happened because for whatever bizarre reason people overall just decided "larger = safer all the time forever" even though if an SUV is involved in a crash it's far, far more likely that somebody is going to die. Plus basically everything that Jeep makes and has ever made is prone to rolling over.

root beer
Nov 13, 2005

twistedmentat posted:

Speaking of hair, I saw a dude with a mullet (and an kaiser bill) the other day, and I though "drat, why do people keep trying to bring that thing back?" and also remembered how the mullet did get its start in the 80s, I always associate it with the 90s because it was everywhere. Movie starts would have them done in their latest roles, and they were all over tv. Pretty much every boy in family sitcoms had them, and they were artfully arranged for maximum business up front, party in the back.

Sure, the mullet's been around since the '80s or even before that, but it didn't get its name until the mid-'90s.

BOGO LOAD
Jul 1, 2004

"You know I always had trouble really chewing the fat with my pops. Just listen to him..."

I just bought a '94 Ranger. While waiting for an AUX cable to come in the mail I was stuck listening to CDs. First album I popped in was Downward Spiral, also released in '94. Christ help me.

tacodaemon
Nov 27, 2006



eminkey2003 posted:

And y'know, it's weird to see that people did Seinfeld impressions as early as 1992: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/standup-and-win/2868123

I have to admit I always liked the fact that Seinfeld is doing an exaggerated impression of himself in that sketch

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

The_Franz posted:

On the topic of 90s car stuff:



In high school I could fill the 26 gallon tank on my hand-me-down 80s Buick land-barge, pay with a $20 and get change back.

Since turning sixteen in 2003, I have seen gas prices swing from around $1.80 per gallon to as high as about $4.50 per gallon. In the same year I saw that peak, they came all the way back down to under $2.00 per gallon, then rise back up to about $4.00 per gallon and now they're under $2.00 again.

Sestze
Jun 6, 2004



Cybernetic Crumb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8beftl3VMZY
Quake 1's music was really out there.

oneof27
May 27, 2007
DSMtalker

Choco1980 posted:

That sketch is amazing for so many reasons. It's pretty much note for note a take-off on a "straight" beer commercial I remember existing before that. Not to mention how insane it was to make such a pro-gay sketch in nineteen freakin ninety one! The entire joke was making beer commercials just as party-bro objectifying as the straight status quo commercials and that's it. No effeminate lisps, no man-in-dress gags, nothing. Just two frat boy types ogling dicks. Again, in 1991.

I'm still a little sad that they replaced the Van Halen song.


Edit: http://youtu.be/3Yr_PGbtRrY

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Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

WebDog posted:

Topping it off was the Y2K fad which governments blew billions on safeguarding systems in the event of a colossal system meltdown and much of Y2K was linked into the prepper movement where people stockpiled out of fear.
"Y2K Compliant" stickers were pretty common in the late 90's - I even found them stuck on disk drives.

Welp, speaking as a guy who's old enough to have started working as a programmer by the late 90s -- preppers and apocalypse prophets aside, most of the time and money spent by governments and corporations was actually necessary to prevent systems from loving up. Hell, my job still to this day involves keeping alive a legacy database system from decades ago, you have no idea how many places someone had to fix poo poo to make it Y2K compliant. (I only started working with that particular system after the switchover, though.) Now there's very little reason to think that an untreated Y2K bug would have meant the end of civilization or anything, but it would have caused a lot of disruption and been a lot more expensive to fix after the fact.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Titus Sardonicus posted:

Sure, the mullet's been around since the '80s or even before that, but it didn't get its name until the mid-'90s.

I can say with certainty that OED is wrong on this one. I don't know the origin of the word, but it was definitely being used before I was in high school for some time.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Choco1980 posted:

That sketch is amazing for so many reasons. It's pretty much note for note a take-off on a "straight" beer commercial I remember existing before that. Not to mention how insane it was to make such a pro-gay sketch in nineteen freakin ninety one! The entire joke was making beer commercials just as party-bro objectifying as the straight status quo commercials and that's it. No effeminate lisps, no man-in-dress gags, nothing. Just two frat boy types ogling dicks. Again, in 1991.

I was wondering what sketch that was because SNL archives aren't available in Canada, but yea, I figured it was that because of exactly what you said. The only thing changed between an actual beer commerical and the sketch is switching out babes for dudes.

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

Sestze posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8beftl3VMZY
Quake 1's music was really out there.

Trent Reznor did it. Now he's winning Oscars for his soundtrack work.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Friend of mine shared this

http://www.buzzfeed.com/briangalindo/90s-alt-rock-songs-you-forgot-you-loved?bffbmain&utm_term=.tpy4YJ7G9n#.icgZ3P7xKE

When did U2 become a alt rock band? By the 90s they had become the mainest of the mainstream. Though Veruca Salt still rocks.

Toys For Ass Bum
Feb 1, 2015

The_Franz posted:

On the topic of 90s car stuff:



I love how thesedays it's still called "unleaded", even though leaded fuel was phased out something like 2 decades ago.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

wayne curr posted:

I love how thesedays it's still called "unleaded", even though leaded fuel was phased out something like 2 decades ago.

It was completely banned in the mid-90s but the phase-out started about 20 years before that once cars started coming with catalytic convertors. Even before it was outright banned I'm not sure where you would have found leaded gas outside of buying specialty racing fuel. I don't think that I've seen a regular gas station that sold leaded gas in my lifetime.

Sic Semper Goon
Mar 1, 2015

Eu tu?

:zaurg:

Switchblade Switcharoo

ToxicSlurpee posted:

A lot of that also happened because for whatever bizarre reason people overall just decided "larger = safer all the time forever" even though if an SUV is involved in a crash it's far, far more likely that somebody ELSE is going to die.

Missed an important word there, champ.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Choco1980 posted:

That sketch is amazing for so many reasons. It's pretty much note for note a take-off on a "straight" beer commercial I remember existing before that. Not to mention how insane it was to make such a pro-gay sketch in nineteen freakin ninety one! The entire joke was making beer commercials just as party-bro objectifying as the straight status quo commercials and that's it. No effeminate lisps, no man-in-dress gags, nothing. Just two frat boy types ogling dicks. Again, in 1991.

I think you might be giving it a little too much credit considering the humor is supposed to come from the fact that they're acting like totally normal straight dudes. It's supposed to play on how ridiculous the idea of gay guys acting like straight guys in a beer commercial would be

Ferrule
Feb 23, 2007

Yo!

wayne curr posted:

I love how thesedays it's still called "unleaded", even though leaded fuel was phased out something like 2 decades ago.

It's used as the opposite of diesel.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

twistedmentat posted:

Friend of mine shared this

http://www.buzzfeed.com/briangalindo/90s-alt-rock-songs-you-forgot-you-loved?bffbmain&utm_term=.tpy4YJ7G9n#.icgZ3P7xKE

When did U2 become a alt rock band? By the 90s they had become the mainest of the mainstream. Though Veruca Salt still rocks.

Surprised Placebo made the list. One of my all time favorite bands still blowing so many out of the water. I've heard they're the type that aren't fond of the fact that their big breakout hit, (Pure Morning) is the song people know them best for.

Force de Fappe
Nov 7, 2008

twistedmentat posted:

Friend of mine shared this

http://www.buzzfeed.com/briangalindo/90s-alt-rock-songs-you-forgot-you-loved?bffbmain&utm_term=.tpy4YJ7G9n#.icgZ3P7xKE

When did U2 become a alt rock band? By the 90s they had become the mainest of the mainstream. Though Veruca Salt still rocks.

And whatever the gently caress happened to 15 years. I mean, every loving single song on that list...

Also misses the La's. gently caress those were good.

magic pantaloons
Jan 9, 2012

Ain't you ever seen a naked chick riding a clam before?
This was on high rotation on all the Australian music video shows in 1998.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsiEPL1ta-0

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
Thats a pretty solid list of radio friendly rock everyone was sick of in the late 90's except it's missing Good by Better than Ezra. When they say Alt rock they're probably referring to what rock radio called "alternative" in the 90's and early 00s which was stuff that charted on the Modern Songs/Alternative charts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_Songs

lt_kennedy
Sep 2, 2007
Needs Moar Race

magic pantaloons posted:

This was on high rotation on all the Australian music video shows in 1998.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsiEPL1ta-0

I only learnt it was a cover of a Blue Zone/Lisa Stanfield track a year ago and watched it on youtube - sometimes the cover blows the original out the water. The BZ feat Joanne one has more energy and the stronger vocals help.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

My parents used to get me zoobooks and a bunch of the time life series books since i used to read like a fiend as a kid, they were really fun and I actually did learn a lot

I would still love to be able to read as much if i had the time these days

Being able to read ebooks on my phone or tablet has been a godsend.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

El Estrago Bonito posted:

Thats a pretty solid list of radio friendly rock everyone was sick of in the late 90's except it's missing Good by Better than Ezra. When they say Alt rock they're probably referring to what rock radio called "alternative" in the 90's and early 00s which was stuff that charted on the Modern Songs/Alternative charts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_Songs

I remember when people started calling things Alternative Music/Rock, music nerds would get furious because Alternative stuff to them meant really far out there stuff like Legendary Pink Dots and His Name is Alive. When this stuff became more mainstream, I think those behind programming realized that something massively popular couldn't be rightly called alternative so they started calling it modern rock.

Kind of like how when people get pissed off when someone uses Indie to describe stuff like Metric, New Pornographers or Decemberists, where indie means literal independent bands that aren't signed to major labels (fun fact, pretty much all labels are owned by sony, warner or emi), so local bands and touring bands.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
Except Modern Rock is like, the 80s' British Invasion of music where it was all moody, and often synthy, where somehow Erasure and The Cure were the same genre...

W424
Oct 21, 2010

twistedmentat posted:

I remember when people started calling things Alternative Music/Rock, music nerds would get furious ...

"Electronica"

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

W424 posted:

"Electronica"

Triggering music nerds forever. Also, not getting the right Metal genre right.
"It's not death metal, its swedish pagan barbarian metal!!!".

That brief time when electronic music was the most popular stuff was really interesting. It was kind of a weird buffer between grunge and the rise of the boy band and single young girl pop acts (again)

What we here in the colonies called Britpop was popular and hip, but I don't think it ever really exploded as much as it did in the UK. Me totally having a Gallagher brothers haircut in high school.

insufficient guns
May 4, 2009

personally, I would
like to fuck Wall-E

  :h: :roboluv: :h:

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
After reading about ten articles on Wikipedia about nu-metal, I am now of the opinion that it was a genre that only the 90s could have spawned.

I still hate you, Jonathon Davis.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Star Man posted:

After reading about ten articles on Wikipedia about nu-metal, I am now of the opinion that it was a genre that only the 90s could have spawned.

I still hate you, Jonathon Davis.

I read an article about how nu-metal was the reason many local radio stations collapsed and were bought out by Virgin radio and other giant networks, Rock stations had an embarrassment of riches in the earth to mid 90s with grunge and alternative rock, later with the brit pop which was rocky enough for them. Then nu-metal came along and was so popular so quickly that many of the stations started playing nothing but Korn, Limp Bizkit, POD and whatever crap was popular. Then the popularity dropped off massively, but the rock stations had committed to it fully, and had driven away the audience that wasn't interested in nu-metal so completely that they didn't have the listeners to survive.

Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih_lLA1GsEI&t=56s

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009

Gonna see if I can find mine when I'm home for thanksgiving.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

twistedmentat posted:

I read an article about how nu-metal was the reason many local radio stations collapsed and were bought out by Virgin radio and other giant networks, Rock stations had an embarrassment of riches in the earth to mid 90s with grunge and alternative rock, later with the brit pop which was rocky enough for them. Then nu-metal came along and was so popular so quickly that many of the stations started playing nothing but Korn, Limp Bizkit, POD and whatever crap was popular. Then the popularity dropped off massively, but the rock stations had committed to it fully, and had driven away the audience that wasn't interested in nu-metal so completely that they didn't have the listeners to survive.

That makes a lot of sense. With a lot of music, the model seems to be that the voracious, die-hard, spend-anything, fill out the concert venue, "THIS IS MY LIFE MOM!!" fans are the face of the audience, while then there's a huge quiet following that just likes things and like, tunes to that radio station, and whatever. I think, having been a teen when nu-metal arose, those diehard fans were the only ones actually listening to it. I don't think I met a single person who liked that kind of music that wasn't super into it all the way. Every single other person you'd ask would be completely hateful of it, no in between to make radio ratings or album sales or anything like that.

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Who can forget that most nineties of alternative genres - ska punk / third-wave ska?

(Disclaimer: I like ska.)

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