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Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



That is better than I could have hoped the story would have been. In the NOC I used to work in if you locked yourself out you just pulled a tile on the raised floor and crawled under the floor into the NOC. It was magic!

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Gounads
Mar 13, 2013

Where am I?
How did I get here?
I feel like this is a good time to reminisce. I worked in a glass fabrication factory out of high school and through college.

One of the things they did was to temper glass. A giant electric furnace with a conveyor belt running through it. Towards the end were giant blowers that cooled the glass down. But there's a problem when cooling glass down quickly. Sometimes it explodes. So a dude had to stand there, behind a sheet of plexiglass, in a fireproof suit, and be ready to rake out broken glass so the entire run wasn't ruined. Next to him, behind that protective plexiglass, was a PC I was responsible for. It broke down regularly.

When tempering glass, you get this fine black soot. Normally, nobody notices it, probably just gives you cancer or something. But a PC sucks it up. There must have been some elctro-static thing going on with that dust because whenever I cracked open a box, it was full, top to bottom, with soot. A 1-year lifespan on a new PC was considered good. This was before the days of optical mice. We bought those by the case and just replaced them all the time.

There was a lot of automated machinery. Look at a multi-pane window. See the piece of aluminum between the panes of glass? We had a machine that would extrude, bend, and cut it. For some reason that I'll never understand, they had me, a freshman in college, write the software to control that.

Controlling everything else was SCADA network controlled by a PC in the maintenance guy's office. At least once a month I had to fix that PC. Usually deleting MEGABYTES of porn. (hey, that was a lot then)

The "Servers" were a bunch of desktops sitting on shelves in a full sized rack cabinet. Thankfully, we had proper ventilation there.

Oh, also, it was a token ring network.

Swink
Apr 18, 2006
Left Side <--- Many Whelps
Mandate from the CEO: We will be a digital office! We will use software and be agile and drag our lovely staff into the 21st century!

A noble goal. Good luck to us.


Meanwhile my boss is getting flack that there a too many staff in the IT Department. 2 FTE and one part timer (a designer/social media person).

I guess with all our savvy, 22st century digital staff, we won't need IT support anymore.

What's that in my ticket queue? Someone is trying to send 400mb over email? Again?


Digital!

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Bob Morales posted:

Ladies and gentlemen! Our 'server' room!
That's better than most small business "server rooms" I've seen. At least you have some sort of ventilation.

At my first job they had put a box fan in the room's vent to push the hot air out. I'm sure everyone else in the building appreciated their cleverness when we pushed hot air and ozone back into the fresh air vent.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Swink posted:

Mandate from the CEO: We will be a digital office! We will use software and be agile and drag our lovely staff into the 21st century!

A noble goal. Good luck to us.


Meanwhile my boss is getting flack that there a too many staff in the IT Department. 2 FTE and one part timer (a designer/social media person).

I guess with all our savvy, 22st century digital staff, we won't need IT support anymore.

What's that in my ticket queue? Someone is trying to send 400mb over email? Again?


Digital!

But with office 365 and onedrive! It will automatically convert the attachment and share it using onedrive! (This does not work).

Swink
Apr 18, 2006
Left Side <--- Many Whelps
We bought 365 recently. Imagine my disappointment when I realized onedrive was garbage.

hazzlebarth
May 13, 2013

Hoarders are the worst kind of people.

Our storage is a complete mess with random patches, installation files for software from times long gone, files named "backup files.zip", "backup files~.zip", "backup!!.zip" and documentation for devices that haven't been in use for years. But everytime I suggest cleaning up I'm being shot down because, hey, it's totally possible that we need those Office 2003 setup files again.

Example from today:

Me: Hey, there's 10 GB of old patches for our clinical application, they are useless, we should delete them.

Coworker, getting visibly anxious: Hmm, I don't know, maybe we will need them again.

Me: We won't, those patches don't even work with the current version.

Coworker: Wait, let me save them to my local drive, just in case. You never know! And anyway, we have enough free storage space, I don't think we should be deleting anything, so just leave it as is.

How do you convince those people to let go? Not an option: Just deleting the files. They will restore them from backup and tell me that I should never delete anything without talking to them first.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

hazzlebarth posted:

Hoarders are the worst kind of people.

Our storage is a complete mess with random patches, installation files for software from times long gone, files named "backup files.zip", "backup files~.zip", "backup!!.zip" and documentation for devices that haven't been in use for years. But everytime I suggest cleaning up I'm being shot down because, hey, it's totally possible that we need those Office 2003 setup files again.

Example from today:

Me: Hey, there's 10 GB of old patches for our clinical application, they are useless, we should delete them.

Coworker, getting visibly anxious: Hmm, I don't know, maybe we will need them again.

Me: We won't, those patches don't even work with the current version.

Coworker: Wait, let me save them to my local drive, just in case. You never know! And anyway, we have enough free storage space, I don't think we should be deleting anything, so just leave it as is.

How do you convince those people to let go? Not an option: Just deleting the files. They will restore them from backup and tell me that I should never delete anything without talking to them first.

If you've got plenty of storage, just start an "old poo poo that will never, ever be used again" folder. Call it "Storage Archive." Dump all that poo poo into it so it's out of your way, but you're not deleting any of it to keep them happy.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Then when you need space and they're not looking, run a script which keeps the file names but deletes the content.

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist
And then if they ever try to open any of it, tell them it's because it's too old to be compatible with the current system.

CHEF!!!
Feb 22, 2001

My apologies if this was covered in the past, but I didn't see it in the past few pages and I could stand to use some feedback:

Does anyone else have a job where they're salaried and yet they have to meticulously track how much time they spend on tickets? I'm a DevOps Engineer in a 99.99% Linux environment, I know how to do all that that entails, yet I get a finger wagged at me, once even going back over past tickets and trying to remember how much time I spent on stuff because "you didn't log enough." Am I wrong for wishing that whomever came up with hour tracking in JIRA gets the angriest form of rear end cancer that the pantheon of Deities can muster, or should I start listening more closely to the recruiters who call me alllll the drat time here in trash-strewn NYC?

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

CHEF!!! posted:

My apologies if this was covered in the past, but I didn't see it in the past few pages and I could stand to use some feedback:

Does anyone else have a job where they're salaried and yet they have to meticulously track how much time they spend on tickets? I'm a DevOps Engineer in a 99.99% Linux environment, I know how to do all that that entails, yet I get a finger wagged at me, once even going back over past tickets and trying to remember how much time I spent on stuff because "you didn't log enough." Am I wrong for wishing that whomever came up with hour tracking in JIRA gets the angriest form of rear end cancer that the pantheon of Deities can muster, or should I start listening more closely to the recruiters who call me alllll the drat time here in trash-strewn NYC?
Time tracking can be really good if your direct management wants to convince upper management to hire more people, but I've personally never ever seen that happen.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Bob Morales posted:

Ladies and gentlemen! Our 'server' room!

This door has a vent. To let air in!




Fuckin lol that your security system consists of a thin air filter large enough for any person to climb through. Dare I ask what the poking stick is for next to the door?

Walked
Apr 14, 2003

anthonypants posted:

Time tracking can be really good if your direct management wants to convince upper management to hire more people, but I've personally never ever seen that happen.

The only time I've convinced management to hire more staff, it took a Word document full of bulletpoint "these are the projects we need help with". Even though we have Jira, time tracking, etc - all they wanted was a Word document.
Basically, I think it boils down to trust and "either they will and documentation needed is minimal, or they wont - in which case no amount of documentation will matter".

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

Dick Trauma posted:

Consider it taken care of."
:) Thanks for the help! It's great to have support when we have to handle issues like these.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
So MS starts spamming one of my client's with the Office 2016 upgrade as they start pushing it. Fine, let's upgrade. Install 2016 on half the workstations and find out, lo and behold, it broke something. Specifically there is a shared calendar that can no longer be searched; it crashes Outlook. Ticket now open with MS and I get to sit here waving my dick until they respond. Sigh.

SubjectVerbObject
Jul 27, 2009

CHEF!!! posted:

My apologies if this was covered in the past, but I didn't see it in the past few pages and I could stand to use some feedback:

Does anyone else have a job where they're salaried and yet they have to meticulously track how much time they spend on tickets? I'm a DevOps Engineer in a 99.99% Linux environment, I know how to do all that that entails, yet I get a finger wagged at me, once even going back over past tickets and trying to remember how much time I spent on stuff because "you didn't log enough." Am I wrong for wishing that whomever came up with hour tracking in JIRA gets the angriest form of rear end cancer that the pantheon of Deities can muster, or should I start listening more closely to the recruiters who call me alllll the drat time here in trash-strewn NYC?

I am salaried, but have a schedule I have to adhere to and my time is tracked on the tickets I work. Of course I am dedicated to a specific customer, and they often call me to chat or run something by me, and it is hard to fit that into our ticketing system, but somehow I find a way to get my time attached to tickets.

And every place I have been that did metrics just had metrics that told a story of how understaffed we were. First they want to track stuff, and then the see that folks are 80% utilized so they decide to cut staff by 10-20% and drive 100% utilization. Then folks get overloaded when someone is out sick or on vacation and realize there is no time for training, so more leave, and at a certain point you are at 2/3rds the staff you had with the same workload, and there is grumbling and management gets concerned and looks at the numbers and thinks "we are down a lot of people, I'm totally gonna get my bonus for keeping under budget!$$$!" and nothing ever happens and I leave.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Judge Schnoopy posted:

Fuckin lol that your security system consists of a thin air filter large enough for any person to climb through. Dare I ask what the poking stick is for next to the door?

Practicing bo staff skills

Up until a few months ago we couldn't even lock that door

We had a customers :woof: running around in there

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

CHEF!!! posted:

or should I start listening more closely to the recruiters who call me alllll the drat time here in trash-strewn NYC?

Yes. Just remember that you're screening them too, the good ones will understand and work with your skill set, and yes they do exist.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Bob Morales posted:

Ladies and gentlemen! Our 'server' room!

This door has a vent. To let air in!




Looks like it was originally made to let cats in.

Dick Trauma, are you still at the same job with the crazy CEO assistant/Reek?

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Today I was told my presentation on SAML Token was great but it wasn't very "sexy".

How the hell am I suppose to respond to this?

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Tab8715 posted:

Today I was told my presentation on SAML Token was great but it wasn't very "sexy".

How the hell am I suppose to respond to this?

Strippers and blackjack.

J
Jun 10, 2001

Tab8715 posted:

Today I was told my presentation on SAML Token was great but it wasn't very "sexy".

How the hell am I suppose to respond to this?

Clearly you didn't use enough buzzwords.

Aunt Beth
Feb 24, 2006

Baby, you're ready!
Grimey Drawer

Bob Morales posted:

Ladies and gentlemen! Our 'server' room!
I love everything about this. All of this is the most AS/400 thing I have ever seen. :patriot:

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Tab8715 posted:

Today I was told my presentation on SAML Token was great but it wasn't very "sexy".

How the hell am I suppose to respond to this?

Tell him you're flattered, but not interested.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer
One of these is the fan in my server room:



It actually works pretty well, given that it's only two servers and enough networking equipment to support ~100 ports.

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist
I have a piano and a bunch of stacked up boxes in one of my server rooms... I had to get into it a couple weeks ago to check on something, and I had to move all that poo poo out of the way. Apparently it's all being donated, but they don't want to store it anywhere else (like the music room) until then.

keseph
Oct 21, 2010

beep bawk boop bawk

Collateral Damage posted:

Then when you need space and they're not looking, run a script which keeps the file names but deletes the content.

robocopy $src $dest /CREATE /MOV /E

ptier
Jul 2, 2007

Back off man, I'm a scientist.
Pillbug

Dick Trauma posted:



EDIT: HA! She sent me a thank you email. That goes in my "cover your rear end" folder.


So the VP of HR, the one that was a complete rear end in a top hat to you during the office manager debacle, got canned? Is everyone there just an rear end in a top hat and getting fired soon? Either that or everyone you have an altercation with gets fired. Maybe you have a guardian C level in there.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
Maybe dick trauma is a real life George Costanza.

ptier
Jul 2, 2007

Back off man, I'm a scientist.
Pillbug

Bigass Moth posted:

Maybe dick trauma is a real life George Costanza.

That seems more like the office manager than anyone there. Not great at his job but he keeps getting attaboys even when he explodes in rage.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

ptier posted:

Maybe you have a guardian C level in there.

That's a lovely dream. :allears:

I haven't felt protected at a job since my retail gig back in the 1980s. I felt like the store managers had my back not just because my success made their job easier but because I was a part of their team. They wanted me to do well. A few times they went to bat for me and I never forgot. Since then I've become disposable by pretty much everyone. Some sort of problem? Eh, just throw Trauma away. Communicating is too much bother.

Talking to the VP of accounting apparently Monday is the deadline for budgets. I sent my boss the presentations she asked for but she never replied. I'd also emailed her an updated quote she specifically requested and she never replied. I resent it to her last week asking if I could get the work scheduled. No reply. She has my initial budget so that's better than nothing I guess. But it would be nice to be part of the process. Like being notified when budgets are due, if they have a preferred format, a revision and approval process, that sort of thing. I have no idea what the next step is due to the persistent silence from my boss. Maybe there is no next step. Maybe she just crosses out what she doesn't like. Maybe I don't work off of the budget at all and it's just some sort of exercise. Who knows?

Most of my emails to bosses over the last few years don't get replies. Just straight into the memory hole, even if it's about something they requested from me. I'm weary of working for people who refuse to communicate until they're angry about something. Don't acknowledge me when we pass in the corridor, don't return my calls, don't respond to my emails. How am I supposed to not feel invisible?

Dick Trauma fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Nov 27, 2015

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

CHEF!!! posted:

Does anyone else have a job where they're salaried and yet they have to meticulously track how much time they spend on tickets?

It sucks a lot, especially when you're busy or when you get behind on it, but a good business will use time tracking for more than just trying to breathe down your neck. If you're in support it's a good way to point out areas in which you're spending too much time and that might require some company-wide awareness. If you're in development it's a way to track areas of the system that are hotspots and might need more proactive bug-fixing rather than reactive. If you're in managed services or projects it helps track whether your client's trying to get away with more work than they've paid for.

I've been in a few places and they've never complained about the time I'm logging, they've just used it to identify trends.

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.
DT, what you're supposed to do is develop an armor of indifference and shield of minor disdain. Then use it to bash people over the head and explode into a full-blown tantrum like a man-child. Then, and only then, will they respect you.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
I think I'm on the wrong planet.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003
Solution is in the thread title: you need to yell more. Your lack of erratic outbursts shows your inability to participate in the company culture and be a team player who really cares the company.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Sheep posted:

Solution is in the thread title: you need to yell more. Your lack of erratic outbursts shows your inability to participate in the company culture and be a team player who really cares the company.

They tried to rope me into a teambuilding exercise today, but wouldn't you know it I'm terribly busy every time I was reminded to do it, and whoops forgot to do it altogether come quitting time :ninja:.


Note to self; if offered Kool-Aid at work, do not drink it.

Finster Dexter
Oct 20, 2014

Beyond is Finster's mad vision of Earth transformed.

Stelas posted:

It sucks a lot, especially when you're busy or when you get behind on it, but a good business will use time tracking for more than just trying to breathe down your neck. If you're in support it's a good way to point out areas in which you're spending too much time and that might require some company-wide awareness. If you're in development it's a way to track areas of the system that are hotspots and might need more proactive bug-fixing rather than reactive. If you're in managed services or projects it helps track whether your client's trying to get away with more work than they've paid for.

I've been in a few places and they've never complained about the time I'm logging, they've just used it to identify trends.

I understand the need to track hours for purposes of capitalization, etc., but I've never worked anywhere that some idiot manager doesn't try to use hours tracked to get after someone. "This feature took 40 hours to complete, what were you doing that whole time?" Or the old classic, "You only tracked 30 hours this week. What were you doing the other 10 hours you were supposed to be at work?" In meetings getting asked stupid questions like that, dipshit.

At my current job, I was here like a day when a project manager tried to get after one of the devs about hours worked and listed off how many hours everyone had logged on his project. Granted, they're barely a year into switching the entire company from lovely waterfall to an agile process, and the PM group has been knuckle dragging themselves through the changes, apparently. But it was a harrowing experience and I was questioning if I had made the right choice in accepting the offer, and my whole team was like, "Yeah, we don't know what the heck that was. Just ignore it."

Finster Dexter
Oct 20, 2014

Beyond is Finster's mad vision of Earth transformed.

Sheep posted:

Solution is in the thread title: you need to yell more. Your lack of erratic outbursts shows your inability to participate in the company culture and be a team player who really cares the company.

Assholes get better customer service than nice people.

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Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

Finster Dexter posted:

Assholes get better customer service than nice people.

They only appear to get better customer service. The polite customer may end up waiting five minutes longer than the fuckstick who yells at the waiter, but they're way less likely to get jizz instead of salad dressing.

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