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divabot posted:If there were a Wikipedia article with an actually well-written ==Plot summary== (i.e. spoils everything but doesn't get lost in the weeds of detail) of HPMOR, what would that summary say? For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is Tom Riddle? This is Tom Riddle speaking. I am the wizard who loves life. I am the wizard who does not sacrifice his love or his values. Grace Baiting fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Nov 15, 2015 |
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The Iron Rose posted:For something fairly similar in structure to the Arithmancer, Alexandra Quick and the Thorn Circle by Inverarity takes place in wizarding America with a completely new cast. Truly incredible worldbuilding, good characterization, and best of all 4/7 books are already completed. I really like this one as well, but it's pretty different from the standard fare. I'm only on chapter 6, but this is really, really solid so far. Like in some alternate universe, this could have been the original work and Harry Potter the fanfic, maybe. Of course it could poo poo the bed later on. I guess for a recommendation of my own, this one's kind of, sort of, not really-at-all similar to Arithmancy in the vein of 'getting the most from your magic' in a completely non-serious, absurd way- Harry the Hufflepuff
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Mazerunner posted:I'm only on chapter 6, but this is really, really solid so far. Like in some alternate universe, this could have been the original work and Harry Potter the fanfic, maybe. Of course it could poo poo the bed later on. I just finished it and yeah, it's really good. It's a bit too long--there's not nearly enough plot to fill up 165,000 (!) words--but if you cut it down you'd get rid of a lot of the world-building which is by far the best bit. It also neatly avoids the fan-fiction trap of either smugly pointing out inconsistencies in the original book (like HPMOR does, just to keep things mildly on topic) or just as smugly coming up with explanations of how it's not really inconsistent at all. And the Ozarkers are great characters.
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Mazerunner posted:I guess for a recommendation of my own, this one's kind of, sort of, not really-at-all similar to Arithmancy in the vein of 'getting the most from your magic' in a completely non-serious, absurd way- Harry the Hufflepuff This is absolutely hilarious and everyone should read it.
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Prince of the Dark Kingdom is pretty solid, albeit with the caveat that English is a second language for the author. It's also long as heck, but covers all seven books and breaks up rather nicely. Oh also I finished Renegade Cause and wow did that have a lot of awful rapey poo poo in it. I mean, it wasn't bad otherwise but you can't really just ignore that.
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Okay, I really have to ask - and, yeah, sorry, it feels like we're drifting off-topic - but is that site really supposed to have all the text be in incredibly short paragraphs that, to make matters worse, are all centered on the screen? How is any of this readable? Is there a fix for that? I don't know if wading through that eyesore is worth the payoff no matter how much y'all seem to like them. I mean this isn't remotely readable text, right?
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Huh. This is what I get:
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:Okay, I really have to ask - and, yeah, sorry, it feels like we're drifting off-topic - but is that site really supposed to have all the text be in incredibly short paragraphs that, to make matters worse, are all centered on the screen? How is any of this readable? Is there a fix for that? I don't know if wading through that eyesore is worth the payoff no matter how much y'all seem to like them. I mean this isn't remotely readable text, right? I think you need to enable javascript? Maybe?
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Chapter 17 – Locating the Hypothesis Part Thirteen quote:
Ominous. quote:
It’d be an interesting development if McGonagall were to confiscate the Time-Turner and Harry has to learn to re-adapt back to not having the Time-Turner around as a convenient Artifact Ex Machina to solve his problems. quote:
No he didn’t “have” to do it. In the first place, he wasn’t a teacher or even a prefect, or otherwise an authority figure with a duty to impose order upon and maintain peace between the students, so he didn’t “have” to intervene to begin with. quote:
And this too. Wasn’t he already warned “DO NOT MESS WITH TIME” during his experiment at the beginning of this chapter? quote:
Character development! And pretty well written character development too, in my opinion. If this continues, this story might yet prove to be reasonably decent. JosephWongKS fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Nov 19, 2015 |
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Nov 19, 2015 09:32
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McGonagall being a consistent voice of reason is one of the better parts of this thing.
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:McGonagall being a consistent voice of reason is one of the better parts of this thing. Yeah Harry being a little know-it-all poo poo and then the Remembrall telling him 'you've forgotten something' was a genuinely good bit.
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The Shortest Path posted:Prince of the Dark Kingdom is pretty solid, albeit with the caveat that English is a second language for the author. It's also long as heck, but covers all seven books and breaks up rather nicely. It's been awhile since I read it, I only remember the two references...? Once when Tonks burns that Death Eater alive during the Azkaban assault and once when Voldemort possesses Harry's then unused body My bad though, should've mentioned it. I will say it never felt gratuitous though. The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Nov 19, 2015 |
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How do i put harry potter fanfiction on my kindle? VVVV Thanks! Killstick fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Nov 20, 2015 |
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There are various services to turn fanfics into ebooks. [url=https://ficsave.com]Here's one just from googling[/spoiler], not the one I used last time I wanted to do that, since that only worked for fanfiction.net, but I'm sure it works fine.
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Killstick posted:How do i put harry potter fanfiction on my kindle? Use Fanfiction Downloader - lets you copy paste a FFN link into the program and it will output the document in the format of your choice. You have a kindle so that would be .MOBI, which you can then attach to an email, then send it your kindle email (which you should see on your amazon account, something like Killstick@kindle.com). Next time your kindle connects to the internet it should show up. I actually spend far too much time reading harry potter fanfiction and I'd kinda love to discuss it a bit more so I kinda like the direction this thread is going. There's a lot of decent literature out there - it's no Night Watch but there's a lot that's very good.
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Chapter 17 – Locating the Hypothesis Part Fourteen quote:
Chekov’s Ultimatum right there. This all but guarantees that Eliezarry will be making “One more display like that” and be forced to return the Time-Turner. quote:
So in this particular incarnation of Hogwarts / Potterverse, the staff are actually aware of the jinx that Voldemort cast against the position of “Professor of Defence Against the Dark Arts”, but do their best to maintain omerta about the jinx. Why don’t they try to break the jinx? Or alternatively, if the jinx is unbreakable, why not discontinue the class alternatively and find other means of teaching their students how to defend themselves against the Dark Arts? quote:
Yeah, I actually have to agree with Eliezarry here. It is highly irresponsible of the staff to be aware of the jinx and do nothing about it and conceal this jinx from the students. quote:
This concern for appearances over the actual safety of her students is very inconsistent with the characterization of McGonagall, both within the canon series and within HP:MOR up to this point. Is Eliezer trying to introduce a new theme of how bureaucracy is corrupt or uncaring? If so, why do it through McGonagall who already has an established characterization, when there are so many other Hogwarts teachers who are still relatively blank slates within this story?
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You're analysing this waaaay too deeply, this is just a bit of good old-fashioned poking fun at the concept of there being a jinx on the DADA teacher for decades but nobody's tried to do anything about it, and then following the logic of that situation a little further than the author intended. It's the sort of thing that's easily forgiven if you think you're reading a silly light-hearted comedy knockabout.
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On one hand, the characterization shifts quite dramatically there, especially the comment about fire beetles. You'd think McGonagall would care more about her students. On the other hand, she's currently engaged in conversation with Harold James Potter-Evans-Verres, a child who at the tender age of eleven has proven to be possibly the worst headache to ever arrive at Hogwarts even though the school year has barely started, who she has just exhausted herself berating over flagrant misuse of school property. I can't blame her for just wanting him to shut up and get the hell out of her office already.
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Yeah, her reaction might have been different if it were literally any other student
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Trin Tragula posted:You're analysing this waaaay too deeply, this is just a bit of good old-fashioned poking fun at the concept of there being a jinx on the DADA teacher for decades but nobody's tried to do anything about it, and then following the logic of that situation a little further than the author intended. It's the sort of thing that's easily forgiven if you think you're reading a silly light-hearted comedy knockabout. I dunno about that. I did read it the same way JWKS did, this was Yud trying to introduce the idea of a corrupt bureaucracy in a really hamfisted way.
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The thematic whiplash seems really inappropriate here. Is McGonagall concerned about student safety or is she a corrupt bureaucrat who doesn't care? You can't have it both ways in the same conversation.
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i81icu812 posted:The thematic whiplash seems really inappropriate here. Is McGonagall concerned about student safety or is she a corrupt bureaucrat who doesn't care? You can't have it both ways in the same conversation. Harry also probably was doing the equivalent of abusing prescription medication. He was issued the time-turner because of his strange sleep disorder, right? The one that kept moving him two hours forwards every night, sleep-wise? And which, I suppose, is not amenable to any other treatment, such as (say) magic sleep potion pills which could reliably knock him out for eight hours at a fixed time? And here he is using it to gently caress around.
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It doesn't help that Harry doesn't really have a plausible reason to suspect Quirrell of any particular wrongdoing yet. He's spooky, that's all. Again, I think some of the comments are really out of character for McGonagall, but I can also see why she would want Harry to shut up before he said something that would force her to take an action she doesn't really think is justified.
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Nessus posted:Harry also probably was doing the equivalent of abusing prescription medication. He was issued the time-turner because of his strange sleep disorder, right? The one that kept moving him two hours forwards every night, sleep-wise? And which, I suppose, is not amenable to any other treatment, such as (say) magic sleep potion pills which could reliably knock him out for eight hours at a fixed time? And here he is using it to gently caress around. Since canon harry doesn't have it, we can safely say this 'disorder' isn't genetic in origin. His dreams are just too  for him to sleep a normal eight hours.
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Tunicate posted:Since canon harry doesn't have it, we can safely say this 'disorder' isn't genetic in origin. Eliezer stated that he had that exact disorder as a kid IRL, so I expect your diagnosis to be completely correct.
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He's describing a circadian rhythm disorder, specifically delayed sleep phase disorder.
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MikeJF posted:He's describing a circadian rhythm disorder, specifically delayed sleep phase disorder.
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NihilCredo posted:Eliezer stated that he had that exact disorder as a kid IRL, so I expect your diagnosis to be completely correct. the solution to this was for the Yud to take his pills earlier. MoR Author's Notes posted:...I should take my low-dose melatonin 5-7 hours before bedtime, instead of 1-2 hours, a recommendation which I’d never heard anywhere before.
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I genuinely had an issue with my sleep rhytm at one point, it was constantly moving an hour forward every night, for a period of about two months. Really lovely thing to deal with. My best guess is that it had something to do with stress. It's not hard for me to believe that something similar can happen to someone else.
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Chapter 17 – Locating the Hypothesis Part Fourteen quote:
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quote:"Good luck!" squeaked Professor Flitwick, and leaned over to the gargoyle and said something that Harry somehow failed to hear at all. (Of course, the password wouldn't be much good if you could hear someone saying it.) If only Gay Black Yudhitler had just stuck to doing this sort of thing, this'd all be a nice, fun, (short!), good-spirited, readable exercise. C'est l'internet.
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Trin Tragula posted:If only Gay Black Yudhitler had just stuck to doing this sort of thing, this'd all be a nice, fun, (short!), good-spirited, readable exercise. C'est l'internet. Yeah. Could have been something along the lines of The Last Ringbearer. Alas.
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The greatest tragedy of HPMOR is easily that Yudkowsky is, at the end of the day, not the worst writer of prose out there and all that overflowing enthusiasm could, if he had been more inclined to it and less insane, been channelled into something of actual acceptable quality, and I don't even think he would have to compromise on the science stuff if he really wanted to. Would help if it was more accurate and less, y'know, mad futurist.
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JosephWongKS posted:This description of Dumbledore’s room and the section of how “before the desk was X” and “behind Y was Z” feels very reminiscent of Tolkien’s writing style, but I can’t tell if this is a copy of a (vaguely remembered) actual passage in Tolkien’s books or just a general homage to him. Dumbledore's Room It's full of clocks and poo poo. There are exits to the north and the east. Items here: Dumbledore, Dumbledore's clock, Dumbledore's poorly hidden gay pornography, Death (waiting)
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:The greatest tragedy of HPMOR is easily that Yudkowsky is, at the end of the day, not the worst writer of prose out there and all that overflowing enthusiasm could, if he had been more inclined to it and less insane, been channelled into something of actual acceptable quality, and I don't even think he would have to compromise on the science stuff if he really wanted to. Would help if it was more accurate and less, y'know, mad futurist. Plus being in a setting where actual magic is real, it'd probably be a lot easier to bring about the silly things futurists like this believe are possible. You've already got most diseases and injuries spanked with healing magic, that's a hell of a start.
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:The greatest tragedy of HPMOR is easily that Yudkowsky is, at the end of the day, not the worst writer of prose out there and all that overflowing enthusiasm could, if he had been more inclined to it and less insane, been channelled into something of actual acceptable quality, and I don't even think he would have to compromise on the science stuff if he really wanted to. Would help if it was more accurate and less, y'know, mad futurist. As someone showed upthread, yud is batting pretty poorly on the science stuff.
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Tunicate posted:As someone showed upthread, yud is batting pretty poorly on the science stuff. Hence the last sentence, there. Nakar posted:Hell, there's nothing even wrong with being mad futurist in the context of a commentary on the themes of Harry Potter. I think it's kind of weird in a setting where a literal afterlife is shown as being real and something that happens to souls after they die, though. But I agree, you could totally make a workable thing out of that, if you wanted to. But, as has been said before, Yud is trying to do too much at once and he's being pretty sloppy with all of it. Unfortunately I think just biting off more than he can chew isn't the fundamental problem with that particular author, so even though the story needs a good slashing I don't think it would've rescued it in the end.
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:Hence the last sentence, there. We don't really know if there is a true afterlife, though? We have the ghosts, who are stuck and can't go on to whatever may or may not be there, we have the train station limbo where Harry and Voldemort go to, and we have the temporary spirits from the stone and who knows whether they're real or constructs of Harry's. Have we seen an afterlife that is fully untethered from the living world?
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I seem to recall Dumbledore explicitly mentioning it, but you could easily make the argument he's full of poo poo and doesn't know any better than anyone else. On the other hand, just the existence of ghosts that seem capable of lingering forever means death in the Potter universe is not the hollow cessation of existence that it is in reality.
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