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Doctor Spaceman posted:Realistically big settlements would be a pain to actually navigate and manage, as would a gameworld in which it takes half an hour to walk from Sanctuary to Red Rocket. RPGs are not strangers to big cities or big overworlds.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:sadly it sold a ton of copies so if anything they are just going to double down on their terrible decisions   I apologize for nothing.
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Nuebot posted:
Where can I buy this revolutionary new role-playing game?
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:sadly it sold a ton of copies so if anything they are just going to double down on their terrible decisions I love you guys. GAH! HOW CAN BETHESDA BE SATISFIED WITH ENORMOUS CRITICAL AND COMMERCIAL SUCCESS?! DON'T THEY KNOW THAT ME AND MY FRIENDS WOULD LIKE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT GAME? HOW CAN THEY BE SO STUPID!
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7c Nickel posted:I love you guys. GAH! HOW CAN BETHESDA BE SATISFIED WITH ENORMOUS CRITICAL AND COMMERCIAL SUCCESS?! DON'T THEY KNOW THAT ME AND MY FRIENDS WOULD LIKE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT GAME? HOW CAN THEY BE SO STUPID! 
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Realistically big settlements would be a pain to actually navigate and manage, as would a gameworld in which it takes half an hour to walk from Sanctuary to Red Rocket. A lot of this comes from travel times no longer being so abstracted - if you're just a moving dot on a 2D map, moving through featureless desert for game days is much more tolerable. I kinda wanna reinstall F1 to see how many game days you're unevently from through (literally) featureless desert from F13 to Shady Sands/V15. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Nov 27, 2015 |
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7c Nickel posted:I love you guys. GAH! HOW CAN BETHESDA BE SATISFIED WITH ENORMOUS CRITICAL AND COMMERCIAL SUCCESS?! DON'T THEY KNOW THAT ME AND MY FRIENDS WOULD LIKE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT GAME? HOW CAN THEY BE SO STUPID! They've sold out, man, it used to be about the
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Vengarr posted:RPGs are not strangers to big cities or big overworlds. Fallout 4 being a good example of the latter. Adding in 10 minutes walk between each location would just be adding padding to a game that really doesn't need it, and would be counterproductive since it would encourage fast travelling rather than random exploration.
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vandalism posted:Is it just me or are the only good weapons for survival the gauss rifle and the overseer's guardian? Am I missing something here? I do have an assassin's hunting rifle which was fun for easy mode, but the guardian seems to outclass it in every way on survival. I kinda cheated and used the bat file to get 1k crafting mats and 1k each ammo. So I guess I have over 1000 mini nukes too. gently caress. WHy am I not fat manning everything? Spray n' Pray is probably the most ridiculously broken weapon in the game outside of lucky legendary drops.
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Republicans posted:Spray n' Pray is probably the most ridiculously broken weapon in the game outside of lucky legendary drops. I've been using a two-shot smg but I may switch to that one, how big is the aoe on the bullets?
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RBA Starblade posted:I've been using a two-shot smg but I may switch to that one, how big is the aoe on the bullets? pretty big. big enough where if a companion walks 3 feet infront of me when im shooting it i die from the splash damage.
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frajaq posted:Those guys look like they're having a good time Fun-havers are a lesser breed of gamers. The guys who hate-post a couple hundred times in the thread, they understand what gaming is all about.
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I don't understand why people have to get defensive when someone says this RPG has a poo poo dialogue system. It is a pretty legitimate criticism.
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Grinning Goblin posted:I don't understand why people have to get defensive when someone says this RPG has a poo poo dialogue system. It is a pretty legitimate criticism. All the story elements are pretty pathetic and conveyed even patheticer Not why I like the game at all
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I'm frustrated I had to break character with the silver shroud to save kent. That loving SMG is poo poo, even maxed out with all the mods, it's still poo poo. Anyways: McCready is a dick, I can never gain rep with him, and forcing rep gain with him seems buggy.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I'm frustrated I had to break character with the silver shroud to save kent. That loving SMG is poo poo, even maxed out with all the mods, it's still poo poo. When you use the console to add rep with a companion it doesn't go through until your next gain or loss. So if you set the value to 750, nothing happens until you pick another lock, which Macready is cool with, then you get the "Macready adores you" pop up and you can talk to him for his poo poo. I tend to console command the affection values because I hate actually travelling with companions, they break stealth all the time and wander around like dumb children. Walking through a vault,Cait just ran off and aggro'd half the vault and kept fighting everything while I was like ten rooms away looting things.
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MacCready should have got eaten by a deathclaw the instant he left Little Lamplight.
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I hosed up the last mission of Silver Shroud by wearing power armor, I think. Kent was already dead when I got there  However, this is first time in a Bethesda game where I'm not giving a flying gently caress about stealth. Landing headshots with a semi auto rifle is pretty easy and strangely satisfying. Also, artillery barrage is a great equalizer tool for those annoying entrenched enemy positions. Walk up to an enemy compound or whatever, mark the inside of the wall and toss a grenade for maximum aggro, then retreat back about 100 meters. Nailed about 7-8 super mutants with just a barrage in my last firefight. Feels good, man Nitrox fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Nov 27, 2015 |
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Grinning Goblin posted:I don't understand why people have to get defensive when someone says this RPG has a poo poo dialogue system. It is a pretty legitimate criticism. It is. Not many people disagree with that. Its the people that act like that alone ruins the game, or complain about stuff that have been in almost every single Fallout game, that get mocked.
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It's not like reviewers are NOT calling out Bethesda on their issues on the RPG-side of things for once. Or in general really. I mean if we compare how Fallout 3/Skyrim were initially received and Fallout 4, it's clear they're under more criticism this time.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I'm frustrated I had to break character with the silver shroud to save kent. That loving SMG is poo poo, even maxed out with all the mods, it's still poo poo. I never broke character, barring that I momentarily retired the Silver Shooter to save Kent. Sinjin got a hot face full of my suped up Deliverer. Also MacCready leaves me divided. On one hand, Little Lamplight has hopefully caught fire by this point. On the other, MacCready turned into a fun guy with nice hair, pretty eyes and absolutely horrible teeth. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Nov 27, 2015 |
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Nitrox posted:I hosed up the last mission of Silver Shroud by wearing power armor, I think. Kent was already dead when I got there I'm guessing there's something else involved there. I went in wearing my usual stuff, only swapping to the trenchcoat in the elevator after I realized that was where the dialogue was going to take place and everything worked out fine.
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Its the power armour helmet mod that highlights living targets. For some reason it can make enemies hostile before seeing them, which screws up some scripted events. The same thing will happen when using berry mentats.
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Internet Kraken posted:Its the power armour helmet mod that highlights living targets. For some reason it can make enemies hostile before seeing them, which screws up some scripted events. The same thing will happen when using berry mentats. However do make note that with Virgil's hidey hole, that's not the problem as a bunch of people seem to think. It's not the target marker that can make him bug out and go ape on-sight, it seems to be power armor period, not any specific set either.
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Power armor definitely has some weird quirks that aggro people for no reason. There's that walled town (covenant?) that immediately started shooting me on sight. Only after killing them did I notice that all of the inhabitants of Assholes-ville had names and were probably not meant to be fighting you.
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Odobenidae posted:Power armor definitely has some weird quirks that aggro people for no reason. There's that walled town (covenant?) that immediately started shooting me on sight. Only after killing them did I notice that all of the inhabitants of Assholes-ville had names and were probably not meant to be fighting you. It's a cool little side quest, you should reload if possible.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I'm frustrated I had to break character with the silver shroud to save kent. That loving SMG is poo poo, even maxed out with all the mods, it's still poo poo. The thing is if guns feel they suck even if they should be good you need to be pumping points into the damage perks. Five points gets you double damage plus some other advantages. And you can totally do that part with the SS SMG and stay in character. Way I did it after he got shot a couple times was to hit Jet as soon as the dialogue ended, sprint over to the stairs and blast him from the side, starting at the arm. Worked just fine. e- Oh and I found a combat shotgun with the explosive trait. Everything melts before it.
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afkmacro posted:hard to take this conversation seriously I had the same thought when it happened to me. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened with most people who got to that point, because who doesn't hit the "take all" button when offloading companions instead of going through each piece of junk bit by bit?
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I love finding random little unmarked places. I have found one such location southwest of Sufflock County Charter School.  (That's a Legendary Siegebreaker Sentry Bot and is currently ruining my day.) 4 Psychojet's and 4 retries later:  Worth it. Hemoglobin fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Nov 27, 2015 |
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Actually the band wagon jumpers are the ones hating on a generally fun and cool game for super petty gamer reasons
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NESguerilla posted:Actually the band wagon jumpers are the ones hating on a generally fun and cool game for super petty gamer reasons I dunno dude, writing and dialogue are pretty significant parts of WRPGs, it's not particularly petty to be mad at them being hit as hard as they have been.
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Yardbomb posted:it's not particularly petty to be mad at them being hit as hard as they have been. I have no idea what this means but it sounds pretty intense. Were their homes destroyed in a Tsunami or are they mad about how text bubbles are laid out in a video game I can't tell? veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Nov 27, 2015 |
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I think my save got jammed. I just completed Tactical Thinking, Blind Betrayal and Liberty Primed, and all of a sudden none of the questgivers will talk to me. Anyone have a console command or something to get things back in order? The last save I have that's not jammed is 20 hours back 
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I heard a lot of people complaining about the dialogue options in Fallout 4 and it didn't bug me that much for the 80 hours or so I've pumped into the game. That changed when I got to the Institute though. I mean maybe I'm an idiot and missed some optional dialogue but I feel like I couldn't ask about any of the important poo poo. "Have a look around, see what you think of the Institute." *comes back* "Well, now that you've looked around, how about going off and helping a courser retrieve a synth?" Some of the dialogue options you'd get in NV or FO3 or any game with a reasonable dialogue system: -To hell with the courser. Why are you replacing people with synths? What happened to the real mayor of Diamond City? -What were you doing with those FEV experiments? Why were you abducting people from the Commonwealth and turning them into Super Mutants? -How many people have died as a result of the sick poo poo you're doing here? How do you justify this? -Synths are people. They have thoughts and feelings and consciousness. It's inexcusable what you're doing to them. -Desdemona sends her regards. *attack* -Like cowards, you hide in the shadows and send your minions to do your bidding in secret. You terrorize the innocent and feast behind your walls of steel while the world starves. No more, Father. Death has come for you... and I am its Shroud! The dialogue options you're given: Yes, No, Maybe, Synth?
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An NPC I needed sunk into the floor and got stuck. That is all
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NESguerilla posted:I have no idea what this means but it sounds pretty intense. -Yes I'll help -Ugh, fine I'll help -I dunno, I guess I can help -Of course I'll help Like however you want to be about it, FO4 is practically the leading game I can think of right now for illusion of choice when it comes to any of the dialogue; the fix that actually shows what you're gonna say for each option makes it obvious to a silly degree. 
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