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Is there an actual primaris lightning model? Or just the Voss pattern one from FW?
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BULBASAUR posted:I hope Dorn gets a +2 strength unwieldy heavy chainsword without master crafted
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There's a whole thread on B&C about IF players bitching about Dron's chainsword. Poor guys.tallkidwithglasses posted:Is there an actual primaris lightning model? Or just the Voss pattern one from FW? That's the right one
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Safety Factor posted:Nah, it actually manages to be worse than that. It doesn't boost his anything unless you want to trade half of his attacks for +2 strength and instant death. He does get rampage out of the deal though. At initiative 1. and shred! Cant forget the shred.
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Nov 28, 2015 06:20
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Safety Factor posted:Why the gently caress does Garro have a master-crafted bolt pistol? He's got a two-handed sword and a fancy assault 3 bolter. It will never be used or have an impact on the game unless a player decides to specifically use it for shits and giggles. Seems like a fun character to use though. Maybe there's a enemy squad with two dudes 5" away, one dude 7.5" away, and the rest 9" or more away, and you want to do some damage without potentially salting your charge?
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BULBASAUR posted:There's a whole thread on B&C about IF players bitching about Dron's chainsword. Poor guys. 1d4chan did some math work, and Dorn sadly enough comes out near the bottom of the primarch heap. I'm not bothered myself. Dorn's got Sigismund for when real killing needs to be done.
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Sigismund is neat, but Alexis is outstanding. Possibly the most undercosted character model in the game, in my opinion.
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I think Dorn gives his guys a lot of solid boosts. +D3 to combat resolution is an especially big deal. His chainsword just kind of sucks when compared to other primarchs' weapons. It probably won't ever be an issue unless you're trying to use him to fight other primarchs. Probably shouldn't do that though.
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Safety Factor posted:Probably shouldn't do that though. This is a Wrong and Bad Opinion.
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Nov 28, 2015 21:43
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Stumbled into my FLGS for SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY (I forgot this was a thing), and they had the Calth box set marked down to $95. I cashed in some points and walked away with it for $80. Heresy gaming is go!
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lmao at Imperial Fists players getting salty about their primarch's rules, when they have some of the best units, legion rules, and characters in the game. Contrast this with Iron Warriors, who at least can die a bunch from shooting and not run away.
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Plus he's a huge multiplier more than a beat stick, your entire army using his LD10, map wide combat bonuses, and his cover boosting is no small joke. E: Nope. VVVV Hencoe fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Nov 29, 2015 |
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Do you think that they will make models for Tyrant Siege Terminators or Havocs? Will these theoretical models even be good?
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They'll be Fulmentarius terminators with IW shoulder pads at an extra charge.
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Nov 29, 2015 00:40
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I had to look up Fulmentarius terminators.
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Nov 29, 2015 00:52
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I just hope they drop the ork aesthetic. I can deal with little stars on everything.
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The stars are really weird, and I don't think the chests actually suit Mk 2 armour, but the helmets are cool as hell. I don't think the designers really had a clear outline on what they wanted the Iron Warriors to be, and didn't really have an aesthetic for them, which has resulted in this bizarro mix between clean/futuristic chestpieces with stars and the helmets which are in the more traditional Iron Warriors style (one of the helmets is really close to the GW IW upgrade helmet, except sans horns). I don't get the weird mix of not having morale checks for shooting casualties and having two units which are shooting only (but don't really get bonuses for accuracy), as well as having a RoW which is actually a close-range shoot/assault force, but the assault component is actually really hit and miss (and the extra HS choice is lame in an era of allies).
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Nov 29, 2015 02:40
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I like how Perturabo modified an already awesome hammer just to give it Blind and Unwieldy. Nice job, nerd.
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Making him one of like 3 unwieldy primarchs. Not like he already had one of the lowest A values. Even Lorgar has a pistol + weapon. Horus doesn't count because why arnt you using the S8 ap2 shred claw.
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I figured they'd get some template or artillery perks: like forcing re-rolls to cover saves or lifting the 0-1 artillery restriction. Their current rules and models are all across the board. No real focus. In other words:
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Recoome posted:The stars are really weird, and I don't think the chests actually suit Mk 2 armour, but the helmets are cool as hell. I don't think the designers really had a clear outline on what they wanted the Iron Warriors to be, and didn't really have an aesthetic for them, which has resulted in this bizarro mix between clean/futuristic chestpieces with stars and the helmets which are in the more traditional Iron Warriors style (one of the helmets is really close to the GW IW upgrade helmet, except sans horns). Angel Exterminatus was a meh book in general, but it gave the Iron Warriors an Ottoman vibe in places. That would be an interesting aesthetic to run with for them, and pretty distinct from any other legion's current motif.
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Cythereal posted:Angel Exterminatus was a meh book in general, but it gave the Iron Warriors an Ottoman vibe in places. That would be an interesting aesthetic to run with for them, and pretty distinct from any other legion's current motif. I liked that it made Perturabo a huge nerd who built models and played tabletop wargames
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SRM posted:I liked that it made Perturabo a huge nerd who built models and played tabletop wargames im glad im not alone
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SRM posted:huge nerd who built models and played tabletop wargames ONE OF US, ONE OF US, GOOBLE GOBBLE GOOBLE GOBBLE
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SRM posted:I liked that it made Perturabo a huge nerd who built models and played tabletop wargames In all seriousness war games are a long-established and respected part of the real-world military, and the book shows Perturabo and friends using them for their intended purpose. None of the other books have shown Astartes sitting down to actually plan their war campaigns and rehearse plans and strategies for battles they expect to fight. Excusable in some cases like the World Eaters, but you'd think the Ultramarines would have made a point of war gaming beyond some simple chatter in Know No Fear about the best way to kill orks.
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Cythereal posted:In all seriousness war games are a long-established and respected part of the real-world military, and the book shows Perturabo and friends using them for their intended purpose. None of the other books have shown Astartes sitting down to actually plan their war campaigns and rehearse plans and strategies for battles they expect to fight. Excusable in some cases like the World Eaters, but you'd think the Ultramarines would have made a point of war gaming beyond some simple chatter in Know No Fear about the best way to kill orks. Prospero Burns has the Wolves playing strategy games against each other, seemed more like chess than wargames though.
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Cythereal posted:but you'd think the Ultramarines would have made a point of war gaming beyond some simple chatter in Know No Fear about the best way to kill orks. Theres a short story of the ultramarines doing live wargames against themselves dressed up in various legion colors.
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JerryLee posted:Prospero Burns has the Wolves playing strategy games against each other, seemed more like chess than wargames though. Eisenstein had the Death Guard playing chess "regicide" too.
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30k has had a nice take up with the Hams in my community since BaC came out. However spartan spam is a thing with everyone here (except me 'cause I'm stoopid). I do have two caestus assault rams and 20 of the plastic Cataphractii terminators. I traded my 2 plastic contemptors with a friend for the termies since I already have 6 FW ones. I'm still not sure how I should load-out the Cataphractii terminators but I have a few ideas. Since I play the Fists I initially thought THSH for the lot, but that is expensive and doesn't take advantage of the 30k termie flexibility. I think that with 5 with lightning claws, two with assault cannons & chainfists and three with THSS could be effective with a ram to get them about. The idea being to ram into a spartan, peel it open with the chainfists and hopefully be durable enough to attack the spartan-less deathstar next turn, or at least eat enough firepower to keep the rest of my army unmolested for a turn. Goon thoughts?
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Ideally you'll kill the Spartan before assaulting, so then your terminators can bust up the dudes inside. I think that should be your plan, instead of trying to smash your terminators against their big mess of dudes.
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Nov 30, 2015 03:10
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What's wrong with a big mess of giant muscular dudes smashing into each other?
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BULBASAUR posted:What's wrong with a big mess of giant muscular dudes smashing into each other? I don't think there was anything wrong with your birthday party 
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BULBASAUR posted:What's wrong with a big mess of giant muscular dudes smashing into each other? Mi yag.
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panascope posted:I don't think there was anything wrong with your birthday party Wrong was refusing to get into the mud with the rest of us Stanyer89 posted:Mi yag. Wow, same
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[Screaming psychically]
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Came here to post that. Yessss
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Nov 30, 2015 16:37
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Next primarch is out at this 40th birthday celebration thing too.
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YES YES YEEEESSSSS
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Saving the best for last. Thought so 
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