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Sekenr
Dec 12, 2013




Dante80 posted:

Here is how to do a better video showcasing a skin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF0P4cpqSB8



Ok, whats the trick here? How did he disable the crazy aliasing I get in my game despite having all graphics options on max?

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Duuk
Sep 4, 2006

Victorious, he returned to us, claiming that he had slain the drought where even Orlanth could not. The god-talkers were not sure what to make of this.

Sultan Tarquin posted:

I just lost my viper on a smuggling mission by boosting just at the entrance to the orbital and I couldn't slow down in time to avoid the back of the orbital and blew up :downs:

Don't worry, you're not alone. When I was starting up I once point-blank boosted a Type-6 full of gold into the wall next to the mail slot.

The wall won.

Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!
They really need to give that thing better space brakes.

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

Sultan Tarquin posted:

I just lost my viper on a smuggling mission by boosting just at the entrance to the orbital and I couldn't slow down in time to avoid the back of the orbital and blew up :downs:

If you ever end up in a situation where you’re going to run into something you don’t want to run into, your best bet is to turn flight assist off and put 4 pips into SYS. Most of the damage when you run into poo poo isn’t from the initial collision, it’s from your thrusters continually pushing you into the wall or whatever other poo poo you’ve steered yourself into. Just kill everything and let yourself bounce around until you’ve bled off momentum and can get your bearings again.

Lobstertainment
Jun 10, 2004

Sekenr posted:

Ok, whats the trick here? How did he disable the crazy aliasing I get in my game despite having all graphics options on max?

Disable the AA and use supersampling instead, just 1.5x for me leaves very little aliasing, needs more juice to run but if you're maxing it anyway you should be OK.

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

SciFiDownBeat posted:

It is very much not worth it to do a Robigo run with any trade rank less than Broker. But you can get to Broker fairly quickly by doing some trading runs or rares loops. You might - might - be able to get away with being Merchant.
You get more and better stuff the higher you're ranked, but to say it's not worth it isn't accurate, since I ranked up to Broker exclusively with them.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

KakerMix posted:

I have the warthog and for a long while I used a digital directional button on the stick where your thumb rests as my yaw. Up for left, down for right. It was perfectly serviceable but since that button is ridged pretty heavily and made out of metal it destroys your thumb. I tried putting tape on it, bits of rubber, lots of things to make it not shred my skin but in the end I got pedals and am much more happy about it. The Warthog is a bitchin' stick but be aware you are going to need to tweak it more than most sticks because it has true flip switches and E:D doesn't have the ability to understand this by default. Lucky for us people have this all figured out and ready to go already and once you have it set up it is smooth sailing.

Thanks for the advice. I've been doing some reading and I'm super excited to get this setup. I've actually been eying it since it was released. Hopefully the back order isn't too long. I'm ready to get my space flight on.

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

tooterfish posted:

You get more and better stuff the higher you're ranked, but to say it's not worth it isn't accurate, since I ranked up to Broker exclusively with them.

I almost never see Penniless or Mostly Penniless hauling/smuggling missions from Robigo. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough, or I don't even consider missions at that level because I've learned to skip over them for better missions. Either way, if you're a complete newb with very little outfitting money, doing a Robigo run in a ship that has to make 50+ jumps both ways with a low-rated fuel scoop is torturous.

MarcusSA posted:

I just said gently caress it and pulled the trigger. Amazon has it for 330 (it's back ordered) and I had 120 in gift cards.

:heysexy:

Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

If you ever end up in a situation where you’re going to run into something you don’t want to run into, your best bet is to turn flight assist off and put 4 pips into SYS. Most of the damage when you run into poo poo isn’t from the initial collision, it’s from your thrusters continually pushing you into the wall or whatever other poo poo you’ve steered yourself into. Just kill everything and let yourself bounce around until you’ve bled off momentum and can get your bearings again.

Shields were down due to silent running, it barely cost anything for the insurance so it's just funny more than anything.

Groggy nard
Aug 6, 2013

How does into botes?

Thronde posted:

So, no, you can't always get missions there at penniless.

I've taken Penniless Unfriendly Haul missions before so, yes, you can if you don't mind mission board scumming.



Except at Robigo it pays something like 800,000 credits, so most Robigo vets ignore it unless it happens to go to the same station as a higher paying Haul.

Groggy nard fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Nov 29, 2015

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority

Sultan Tarquin posted:

Shields were down due to silent running, it barely cost anything for the insurance so it's just funny more than anything.

For future reference, you can easily get into a station without silent running before the cops have a chance to finish scanning you, and IIRC it's up in the air whether or not silent running hides you from NPCs anyway.



I can't wait for the buggy moon buggy beta.

jaffyjaffy
Sep 27, 2010
I learned the hard way that bounty rewards are tied to your ship, not to you. Lost ~800k credits worth of bounty while loving around in a RES since that pirate decided to actually hit me full force and not focus the federation guys that were in there. That would've put me at ~1.5m so I could've made a solid Viper or something to replace my Sidey.

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

SciFiDownBeat posted:

I almost never see Penniless or Mostly Penniless hauling/smuggling missions from Robigo. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough, or I don't even consider missions at that level because I've learned to skip over them for better missions. Either way, if you're a complete newb with very little outfitting money, doing a Robigo run in a ship that has to make 50+ jumps both ways with a low-rated fuel scoop is torturous.
Well not penniless obviously, but the point I was making is that you can make good money with them long before you hit Broker.

Peddlar is a good place to start. You can do them fine in a Cobra fit for rares trading, since it's practically the same thing anyway.

edit: I just realised in my original post I removed mention that I started them at Peddlar but left in the "ranked up to Broker exclusively with them". What I meant was I levelled from Peddlar to Broker exclusively with long range missions, not from Penniless to Broker.

tooterfish fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Nov 29, 2015

Duuk
Sep 4, 2006

Victorious, he returned to us, claiming that he had slain the drought where even Orlanth could not. The god-talkers were not sure what to make of this.

Shine posted:

For future reference, you can easily get into a station without silent running before the cops have a chance to finish scanning you, and IIRC it's up in the air whether or not silent running hides you from NPCs anyway.



I can't wait for the buggy moon buggy beta.

Does chaff spam prevent scanning? The few times I've lived the life of a smuggler (white knuckled bouncing my lumpy pig of an Asp back from Robigo or happily gliding in a Cobra at full speed) I've always had a chaff launcher or two because it prevents kill warrant scanning in RESes. Has it all been for naught?

3
Aug 26, 2006

The Magic Number


College Slice

Duuk posted:

Does chaff spam prevent scanning? The few times I've lived the life of a smuggler (white knuckled bouncing my lumpy pig of an Asp back from Robigo or happily gliding in a Cobra at full speed) I've always had a chaff launcher or two because it prevents kill warrant scanning in RESes. Has it all been for naught?

Chaff does zilch against NPC scans, sorry.

JosephSkunk
Dec 16, 2003
Yes, evidently you had misperceived it as rain.

MarcusSA posted:

Flight stick talk again.

Does anyone use the Thrustmaster Warthog?

The wife got me this one as a reward for getting a certain job. If you've got the money left over from car/rent etc, I consider it worth it. It's very stable and durable, I'm huge and it doesn't move much without me wanting it to. It has 7 different thumb sticks, 4 on the stick and 3 on the throttle, and its almost enough. I have buttons bound for everything, separate buttons for cargo scoop, cargo hatch, shield cells, chaff, heat sinks, silent running, all forms of thrust of course, as well as all the gun stuff, targeting each and everything, both kinds of fast pants drivin, lights sensor range etc etc etc.

The down side, as mentioned before, is that many are toggles that aren't fully supported, so rather than all the metal toggle switches have an on/off, you end up just pressing them "the other way" to hit a button. Also, I have yet to figure out how to make configs from scratch, so you end up taking other people's setups and just modifying them in elite, so the fanciest custom features are not readily available. People are making custom light scripts that are potentially p cool but if you figure them out, hook me up I guess.

So yeah worth it if you have money handy.

Two questions of my own since I'm postin:

How do you direct "tell" to people in chat? I keep seeing chat in my HUD after I log out or something, so /reply won't work, and that's the only part covered on the elite wiki.

Edit: smoov and Darth that's why I didn't reply, I am too stupid to figure out the comms

How do you takes those beautiful screenshots, that include your own ship?

JosephSkunk fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Nov 29, 2015

AndroidHub
Feb 28, 2007

I've seen some stuff that would really make you say "like what?"
If you target somebody and press enter it will default to sending a direct message to them, otherwise you can cycle through people who have sent you a direct message/wing chat/local chat using tab (by default).

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum
Here's a fun question that I forgot to bring up back when it was relevant: Has anyone using a controller successfully gotten into classified camera mode when in a dock or in supercruise? I've tried binding it to a keyboard command but still no luck with it in anything but normal flight-- I have to "take off" and sit on the landing pad to get ship screenshots for Inara.

Literally Kermit
Mar 4, 2012
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AndroidHub posted:

If you target somebody and press enter it will default to sending a direct message to them, otherwise you can cycle through people who have sent you a direct message/wing chat/local chat using tab (by default).

What.

Psykmoe
Oct 28, 2008
Oh man, picked this game up and bungled my way through the tutorials. The travel tutorial was the worst because I guess I was using the forward/reverse thrust buttons in combat but in FSA it only accepts input from increase/reduce thrust buttons so first I had to figure out why I couldn't enter hyperspace (was set at 50% on the speedometer and I was holding down the wrong button to get 100%) and then at the destination I kept overshooting the destination station by lightyears because I tried to brake with the reverse thrust button, but only reduce thrust is acceptable. Welp. At least I didn't crash into anything I guess :shobon:

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

JosephSkunk posted:

The wife got me this one as a reward for getting a certain job. If you've got the money left over from car/rent etc, I consider it worth it. It's very stable and durable, I'm huge and it doesn't move much without me wanting it to. It has 7 different thumb sticks, 4 on the stick and 3 on the throttle, and its almost enough. I have buttons bound for everything, separate buttons for cargo scoop, cargo hatch, shield cells, chaff, heat sinks, silent running, all forms of thrust of course, as well as all the gun stuff, targeting each and everything, both kinds of fast pants drivin, lights sensor range etc etc etc.

The down side, as mentioned before, is that many are toggles that aren't fully supported, so rather than all the metal toggle switches have an on/off, you end up just pressing them "the other way" to hit a button. Also, I have yet to figure out how to make configs from scratch, so you end up taking other people's setups and just modifying them in elite, so the fanciest custom features are not readily available. People are making custom light scripts that are potentially p cool but if you figure them out, hook me up I guess.

So yeah worth it if you have money handy.

Yeah I've been doing quite a bit of reading and it looks like it is going to take some time to set up but once you have it the way you like it the thing is flawless.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
Any sign of the panther or the other passenger ships? They weren't in the beta of 1.5, so is there any word if they're coming? Probably not.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003
I've been out of the loop for months now, and tried a hazardous RES last night in my dusty Vulture. It was fun, made 250k in 10-15 minutes, but I'm just wondering if there's something better I can be doing weapons wise. Got a C3 gimballed pulse laser and I think C3 fixed cannon, and it felt like I was a little undergunned.

Anyone got a suggestion for kitting out a kill ships get creds Vulture?

Also lol I tried to pick off an FDL escorted by a pair of Eagles and limped my way back home with 50% hull left :gibs:

Kavros
May 18, 2011

sleep sleep sleep
fly fly post post
sleep sleep sleep
I don't know if I mentioned this before but:

Fehu is like Robigo, except that you simultaneously are achieving Empire ranks and you can do a score of charity missions while refreshing the boards.

I've been doing 10 runs a day for a while, grinding placidly up to Marquis.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Sekenr posted:

Ok, whats the trick here? How did he disable the crazy aliasing I get in my game despite having all graphics options on max?

Supersampling.

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority

Capn Beeb posted:

I've been out of the loop for months now, and tried a hazardous RES last night in my dusty Vulture. It was fun, made 250k in 10-15 minutes, but I'm just wondering if there's something better I can be doing weapons wise. Got a C3 gimballed pulse laser and I think C3 fixed cannon, and it felt like I was a little undergunned.

Anyone got a suggestion for kitting out a kill ships get creds Vulture?

Also lol I tried to pick off an FDL escorted by a pair of Eagles and limped my way back home with 50% hull left :gibs:

You could swap the pulse for a beam. A single beam won't insta-overheat you, and the cannon's heat impact is minimal so you can fire it even if you've beamed yourself to like 90% heat. Beam/Cannon is the loadout I'm using now after months of dual C3 G/Pulses and it's lots of fun and will demolish Pythons and smaller very quickly.

The dual C3 G/Pulse combo is very effective, incidentally. With 3 or more pips to weapons they can fire long enough to trash any small ship or take a healthy chunk out of larger ones. I'm weaning off that though, in anticipation of 1.5 reducing laser damage against unshielded targets.

When attacking an FDL/Eagle wing solo, I'll blitz one of the Eagles (ram + shoot up within a few seconds), then focus on the FDL while tanking/chaffing fire from the other Eagle. The big key is to avoid the FDL's nose (use your superb agility and directional thrusters to keep on its side/butt), because that C4 gun will smack the poo poo out of you. Once the FDL's down, then kill the other Eagle.

marumaru
May 20, 2013



So, for assassination / retirement missions I need an interdictor, right? All my targets seem to be in supercruise at all times

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

What will happen if I don't pay the fines?

I bumped the space station while exiting and didn't notice that I had a 100Cr fine, now I'm way too far from where I did that.

frank.club
Jan 15, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Jack Trades posted:

What will happen if I don't pay the fines?

I bumped the space station while exiting and didn't notice that I had a 100Cr fine, now I'm way too far from where I did that.

Nothing!

Literally Kermit
Mar 4, 2012
t

Jack Trades posted:

What will happen if I don't pay the fines?

I bumped the space station while exiting and didn't notice that I had a 100Cr fine, now I'm way too far from where I did that.

Unpaid, in a week, it will become a bounty, a week after that the bounty goes "dormant" and you won't immediately be wanted when you jump into that system - unless you get scanned by a Kill Warrant Scanner

jaffyjaffy
Sep 27, 2010
About how much should I be looking for credit wise until I trade up out of the Sidewinder?
I like the ability to do a bit of everything so the Cobra is really tempting, it just really expensive comparatively.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Shine posted:

You could swap the pulse for a beam. A single beam won't insta-overheat you, and the cannon's heat impact is minimal so you can fire it even if you've beamed yourself to like 90% heat. Beam/Cannon is the loadout I'm using now after months of dual C3 G/Pulses and it's lots of fun and will demolish Pythons and smaller very quickly.

The dual C3 G/Pulse combo is very effective, incidentally. With 3 or more pips to weapons they can fire long enough to trash any small ship or take a healthy chunk out of larger ones. I'm weaning off that though, in anticipation of 1.5 reducing laser damage against unshielded targets.

When attacking an FDL/Eagle wing solo, I'll blitz one of the Eagles (ram + shoot up within a few seconds), then focus on the FDL while tanking/chaffing fire from the other Eagle. The big key is to avoid the FDL's nose (use your superb agility and directional thrusters to keep on its side/butt), because that C4 gun will smack the poo poo out of you. Once the FDL's down, then kill the other Eagle.

Good stuff, thanks :)

Can anyone suggest a bounty hunting zone in Federal space near Jotunheim with a good shipyard and outfitting? I kinda like the sounds of the FAS, but I need to get my level up before I can buy one.

xiansi
Jan 26, 2012

im judjing all goons cause they have bad leader, so a noral member is associated whith thoose crasy one

Personaly i would quit the goons if i was in cause of thoose crasy ppl
Clapping Larry

jaffyjaffy posted:

About how much should I be looking for credit wise until I trade up out of the Sidewinder?
I like the ability to do a bit of everything so the Cobra is really tempting, it just really expensive comparatively.

Enough to buy the new ship, equip everything at least 'D' grade, and maybe 10% left over to pay off the insurance.

And if you want to trade, enough left to buy cargo too.

Don't try and get straight to a Cobra using a Sidewinder. If you like killing, focus on getting an Eagle, or for trading/smuggling, a Hauler.

For just about managing to do 'everything', the cheapest option would probably be an adder like this, so about 250k+.

And sell/downgrade all the ship's equipment before selling the ship.

Mercurius
May 4, 2004

Amp it up.

Capn Beeb posted:

Good stuff, thanks :)

Can anyone suggest a bounty hunting zone in Federal space near Jotunheim with a good shipyard and outfitting? I kinda like the sounds of the FAS, but I need to get my level up before I can buy one.
Xihe has a great set of Resource Extraction Sites that are around a dwarf star (so it's never completely dark) which are also helpfully right next to the station Zhen Dock. Zhen Dock has a good selection of parts for small/medium sized ships (although the selection of stuff for class 5 and above stuff is less great) and is a full sized starport to boot so you can land any ship there.

For Federal rank up missions I'd suggest going to Arexe and stacking kill pirate missions from all the Federation factions there. They all send you to Orrere which is an anarchy system (no cops) and kills count for all active missions so if you have 5 missions to kill 2 pirates each and a mission to kill 3, killing 3 pirates will complete all of your missions at once.

AndroidHub
Feb 28, 2007

I've seen some stuff that would really make you say "like what?"
Just finished updating the op for 1.5/horizons and got a new thread title, check it out. As always suggest things that you see missing or contribute guides or w/e and I'll change/update the op as appropriate.

Sard
May 11, 2012

Certified Poster of Culture.

Mercurius posted:

Orrere which is an anarchy system (no cops)

On that note, be wary of jobs where you do need to kill system authority vessels, because they can be a real pain in the rear end to get ahold of. Also the police in Orrere are corrupt as hell and at least once I've had one scan me and use pirate lines about looking for cargo to steal, instead of the usual "no crime detected" act.

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

I stole made an effortpost in the PGS thread about newbie ship building; it's not really OP-worthy yet but I'd love to get some additional input on fighting ships from goons who're actually well-versed in shootyman builds. I'm hoping to have it in a viable-newbie-guide state by the time 1.5 lands.
Two things to suggest, for people making ships to grind cash by bounty hunting- one, don't skimp on the sensors. Run with A-rated for a while and marvel at how many high-value ships you would have missed before as you flit around a HazRES. Even more important if you're working in HiRES, so you can more quickly detect something before the local police kill it. Two, you can either save power or fit a better KWS by getting crafty with your firing groups. This is what my Federal Gunship looks like- I can fit great sensors and a 3.5 km KWS by putting the KWS on power priority 3 and the cannons on priority 4. Both are mapped to secondary fire, and I just press 4-space-4 to quickly switch the KWS on or off. I won't need to use the cannons until I get the targets shields down, by which time the scan will have completed. The changes to power-up times in 1.5 might mess with this approach, but we'll have to see how bad they are first and if SCBs stop being mandatory power hogs.

Sard fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Nov 30, 2015

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

AndroidHub posted:

Just finished updating the op for 1.5/horizons and got a new thread title, check it out. As always suggest things that you see missing or contribute guides or w/e and I'll change/update the op as appropriate.

I stole made an effortpost in the PGS thread about newbie ship building; it's not really OP-worthy yet but I'd love to get some additional input on fighting ships from goons who're actually well-versed in shootyman builds. I'm hoping to have it in a viable-newbie-guide state by the time 1.5 lands.

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority

AndroidHub posted:

Just finished updating the op for 1.5/horizons and got a new thread title, check it out. As always suggest things that you see missing or contribute guides or w/e and I'll change/update the op as appropriate.

You made me think the beta dropped, you motherfucker.

AndroidHub
Feb 28, 2007

I've seen some stuff that would really make you say "like what?"
My goondolences (I'm starting a new job tomorrow so I wanted to get most of the changes out of the way.)

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Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Mercurius posted:

Xihe has a great set of Resource Extraction Sites that are around a dwarf star (so it's never completely dark) which are also helpfully right next to the station Zhen Dock. Zhen Dock has a good selection of parts for small/medium sized ships (although the selection of stuff for class 5 and above stuff is less great) and is a full sized starport to boot so you can land any ship there.

For Federal rank up missions I'd suggest going to Arexe and stacking kill pirate missions from all the Federation factions there. They all send you to Orrere which is an anarchy system (no cops) and kills count for all active missions so if you have 5 missions to kill 2 pirates each and a mission to kill 3, killing 3 pirates will complete all of your missions at once.

Haha poo poo, I can't do any work with the Feds out in Arexe because I'm not even Allied with them yet. Guess I just need to be careful when I go bounty busting.

Also do rings get random haz RES added to them?

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