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Tias posted:What, if anything, did tardkaiser have to say about knödels? EvanSchenck posted:Fun side note. The Emperor of Austria, Ferdinand I, was probably not literally mentally disabled as he was sometimes depicted but he definitely did suffer about two dozen epileptic seizures per day. He was unable to consummate his marriage because on the one occasion he tried to have sex, he had a series of severe seizures and almost died. He is only known to have ever issued one command in his capacity as emperor... famously, he wanted to have apricot dumplings even though apricots were out of season (i.e. there are no apricots in Europe right now, you dumbshit): Ich bin der Kaiser und ich will Knödel! pity that he couldn't post here
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HEY GAL posted:wow, such hapsburg as long as nobility is linked with military service you don't get telepaths like ferd' the smartest thing that the founding fathers did was to ban nobility
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Hogge Wild posted:as long as nobility is linked with military service you don't get telepaths like ferd' all the sporcks and gallasses and aldringens and melanders and bucquoys and whatever wallensteins still had careers probably aired out the gene pool a bit
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Did these people understand what was happening to them biologically? I mean, they bred horses and dogs, surely they must have some rudimentary understanding of how congenital illness works. Did they simply decide to breed themselves into a corner because the alternative was socially worse than literally being a drooling dimwit?
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HEY GAL posted:wow, such hapsburg Now I'm chuckling incessantly, with no hope of being able to explain it to my coworkers, thanks.
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Animal posted:Did these people understand what was happening to them biologically? I mean, they bred horses and dogs, surely they must have some rudimentary understanding of how congenital illness works. Did they simply decide to breed themselves into a corner because the alternative was socially worse than literally being a drooling dimwit? It's complicated. There was an understanding that marrying your sister was probably not a good idea. However, you need several generations of cousin marriage before things get ugly. So you have a tradition of cousin marriage that went along fine for several centuries (yeah, sure, they have a higher rate of miscarriage and the like, but whatever), and then you get a Carlos II. How can you be sure that's because of genetics and not because of sheer bad luck? Then you have the issue of nobles marrying people of proper standing, which was important socially, but which dramatically reduced the pool of eligible spouses. That's before considerations like strategic marriages to consolidate a kingdom.
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ArchangeI posted:That's before considerations like strategic marriages to consolidate a kingdom.
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ArchangeI posted:It's complicated. There was an understanding that marrying your sister was probably not a good idea. However, you need several generations of cousin marriage before things get ugly. So you have a tradition of cousin marriage that went along fine for several centuries (yeah, sure, they have a higher rate of miscarriage and the like, but whatever), and then you get a Carlos II. How can you be sure that's because of genetics and not because of sheer bad luck? Ask us about Military History: Yeah, sure, they have a higher rate of miscarriage and the like, but whatever
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Silly Names contribution: Two engineers involved in British airship efforts were named EAD Masterman, and TR Cave-Browne-Cave. Also, once I was poking around for stuff on Magellian's navigator, and happened upon the name Maximilianus Transylvanus.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Silly Names contribution: Two engineers involved in British airship efforts were named EAD Masterman, and TR Cave-Browne-Cave. It ain't TURBO DRACULA, but I'll take it.
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JcDent posted:It ain't TURBO DRACULA, but I'll take it. We were born too early to see the rise of TURBO DRACULA. Perhaps this young man will in time become a great general 
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This may be a question that reveals a shameful lack of historical knowledge, but: Were tank crews in WW2 aware of "angling" armour? WoT and WT players will be aware of trying to create armour slope artificially by presenting your vehicle at an angle, but would this be a thing tankers would've been taught to do, or even a thing they'd pick up, or is it just one of those gamey quirks PC gamers pick up on? And would this continue into the modern day, or do sabots normalise too much to make it viable?
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Yes, but you were better off trying to shoot at your target as often as possible instead of sitting in one place trying to pull off finicky maneuvers that threw off the gunner's aim.
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It's funny how often "Just shoot them first" is the best form of armor.
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Indeed, to angle your body to them you need to know where they are, and if you know where they are, just shoot them.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:Indeed, to angle your body to them you need to know where they are, and if you know where they are, just shoot them. Wasn't there a tiger tank guide that emphasized positioning your tank around clock time positions? I can't remember the exact specifics of it though.
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my dad posted:It's funny how often "Just shoot them first" is the best form of
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Hey, MilHist thread. I have a question. So, I was randomly browsing Wikipedia on a lark for tidbits about the American Revolutionary War and came across the article on John Paul Jones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paul_Jones Now, I only vaguely recalled Jones as the "captain of a Patriot ship called the 'Bohome Richard' who captured a British vessel while calling out something that later became a naval legend...or was that Stephen Decauter?" I certainly wasn't prepared for quote:In April 1789 Jones was arrested and accused of raping a 12-year-old girl named Katerina Goltzwart.[21] But the Count de Segur, the French representative at the Russian court (and also Jones' last friend in the capital), conducted his own personal investigation into the matter and was able to convince Potëmkin that the girl had not been raped and that Jones had been accused by Prince de Nassau-Siegen for his own purposes;[22] Jones, however, admitted to prosecutors that he had "often frolicked" with the girl "for a small cash payment," only denying that he had deprived her of her virginity.[23] I looked to the Wiki talk page and found a bunch of editors talking about Jones "rumored war crimes" and spoted a post claiming that.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:John_Paul_Jones#British_propaganda quote:John Paul Jones was elevated higher in US Navy history in strong part by Theodore Roosevelt. This does read as if it does match the general public impression of him from 1970s to early 80s. His actions and behavior did not establish any precedents that remain with the US Navy. , or strong recognition among his peers while he is alive. He did write one lengthy letter full of several strongly repeated phrases, read in full by few if any. The US Navy true tradition and original strong leaders did not occur until the Quasi-War of 1798 and the Barbary Conflicts and War 0f 1812. So, yeah, can someone tell me about the legacy of JPJ and the current historical consensus on him.? Nckdictator fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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Chillyrabbit posted:Wasn't there a tiger tank guide that emphasized positioning your tank around clock time positions? I can't remember the exact specifics of it though. Yes, but it was more of guide saying at what distances Allied armor could penetrate the Tiger from the front/sides/rear and not much more complicated than that.
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Nckdictator posted:Hey, MilHist thread. I have a question. Raping girls in foreign ports has always been a Navy tradition. Uh... I mean paying for sex in a foreign port....
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LingcodKilla posted:Raping girls in foreign ports has always been a Navy tradition. Yeah, that's not exactly a good thing but hardly distinguishes JPJ from thousands of others.
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spectralent posted:This may be a question that reveals a shameful lack of historical knowledge, but: Were tank crews in WW2 aware of "angling" armour? WoT and WT players will be aware of trying to create armour slope artificially by presenting your vehicle at an angle, but would this be a thing tankers would've been taught to do, or even a thing they'd pick up, or is it just one of those gamey quirks PC gamers pick up on? And would this continue into the modern day, or do sabots normalise too much to make it viable? Games make it really easy to spot and identify enemy players, and generally have a small number of players in a small and predictable battle space, which is what gives players the time for that kind of defensive behavior. But the real world doesn't give you enough information for you to know precisely how to present your armor to the enemy. Generally you want to present your front, with the thickest armor, to the center of where you think the enemy is.
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Nckdictator posted:Hey, MilHist thread. I have a question. I only know about his catchphrase, and this comic about it! 
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What is the combat purpose of a twin-tailed sword such as that used by the Caliph Ali?
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Baron Porkface posted:What is the combat purpose of a twin-tailed sword such as that used by the Caliph Ali? it was just a broken sword
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Baron Porkface posted:What is the combat purpose of a twin-tailed sword such as that used by the Caliph Ali? Is that like a double-bladed sword? All I find when I search for "twin-tailed sword" is a bunch of anime stuff I do not understand.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Is that like a double-bladed sword? All I find when I search for "twin-tailed sword" is a bunch of anime stuff I do not understand. i think that he means this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zulfiqar
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HEY GAL posted:why isn't the mexican american war on this list, we were total douchebags getting into that conflict and recognized as such by protestors at the time On the other hand, it was Winfield Scott's chance to show that he was, in fact, much better than the idiots he'd had to suffer under for most of his career, so that's not all bad.
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Kaal posted:Games make it really easy to spot and identify enemy players, and generally have a small number of players in a small and predictable battle space, which is what gives players the time for that kind of defensive behavior. But the real world doesn't give you enough information for you to know precisely how to present your armor to the enemy. Generally you want to present your front, with the thickest armor, to the center of where you think the enemy is. So the other thing is that if you are in a corner or ambush position you might have your tank slightly angled against the likely approach of the enemy, but really your priority is making sure that on the word your driver can slam you into reverse and break contact without doing anything fiddly.
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MrYenko posted:Now I'm chuckling incessantly, with no hope of being able to explain it to my coworkers, thanks. Imagine whole generations of Habsburgs talking like a Stallone caricature attempting a Schwarzenegger caricature.
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Chillyrabbit posted:Wasn't there a tiger tank guide that emphasized positioning your tank around clock time positions? I can't remember the exact specifics of it though. Here you go! Page 80 (with the sausages). http://www.gunfun.de/tigerfibel.pdf
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Molentik posted:Here you go! Page 80 (with the sausages). I only understand a bit of written German but is it really using the sliced sausage to illustrate the ideal penetration angle? That's brilliant.
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Antti posted:I only understand a bit of written German but is it really using the sliced sausage to illustrate the ideal penetration angle? That's brilliant. It's surprisingly hilarious, too. On page 69 where it describes determining range it's got a few cross references to other chapters like: "The commander measures or estimates his distance - cf. 'Measuring'" "The loader measures or estimates his distance - cf. 'Estimating'" and then "The commander calculates the mean of the two results - cf. first grade of elementary school." 
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Antti posted:I only understand a bit of written German but is it really using the sliced sausage to illustrate the ideal penetration angle? That's brilliant. That is hilariously German. Part of me kind of hopes there is some weird crude German slang involving sausages that evolved from that.
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Molentik posted:Here you go! Page 80 (with the sausages). So is the woman supposed to be a metaphor for the tank, or something to keep the dumb grunts interested, or both? Also HEY GAL needs to comment on the authenticity of the dude on page 78.
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Tomn posted:So is the woman supposed to be a metaphor for the tank, or something to keep the dumb grunts interested, or both?
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Tomn posted:So is the woman supposed to be a metaphor for the tank, or something to keep the dumb grunts interested, or both? Yes.
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The US army had similar "comics for training", though ours were mostly aimed at preventative maintenance. Will Eisner worked on a bunch of them.  They were so popular that he was still making them well into the 70s. 
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