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My favorite part of SCG coverage this weekend was when people were running their cantrips or Deathrite Shamans into Chalice on 1 just to see if their opponent would miss the trigger (and even better when they did miss the trigger).
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TheKingofSprings posted:It's not the card we deserve but it's the card we need Much like Twin 
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Nov 30, 2015 03:28
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Ramos posted:Punishing Abzan This is basically just aggro loam. Very far from new. My miscuts deck is aggro loam and I've been playing it for over a year.
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Nov 30, 2015 03:33
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Devor posted:My favorite part of SCG coverage this weekend was when people were running their cantrips or Deathrite Shamans into Chalice on 1 just to see if their opponent would miss the trigger (and even better when they did miss the trigger). The storm players weren't just trying to cheat, it gets the cards out of their hands to enable Infernal Tutor. The guy who played miracles in the top 4 plays at the same shop as me.
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Nov 30, 2015 04:08
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little munchkin posted:The storm players weren't just trying to cheat, it gets the cards out of their hands to enable Infernal Tutor. As far as I know it's not "cheating" even if it works; it's not as though casting the spell into Chalice is an illegal act. Not going to say it isn't a dick move though.
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Nov 30, 2015 04:15
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little munchkin posted:The storm players weren't just trying to cheat, it gets the cards out of their hands to enable Infernal Tutor. Playing a spell into a Chalice with that spell's CMC isn't cheating. The Chalice player is allowed to miss their trigger. Edit: It used to be something you could get punished for, but that changed a while ago. JerryLee posted:As far as I know it's not "cheating" even if it works; it's not as though casting the spell into Chalice is an illegal act. Not going to say it isn't a dick move though. You're not required to play your opponent's deck for them. That's why the rules were changed. We had this conversation a while ago when Joe Lossett won a match in the top 4 of something or other because his opponent missed his Sulfuric Vortex trigger. suicidesteve fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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Nov 30, 2015 04:15
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suicidesteve posted:Playing a spell into a Chalice with that spell's CMC isn't cheating. The Chalice player is allowed to miss their trigger. How is that cheating at all? Sometimes you run stuff into Chalice just to get cards in your yard for Delve or Threshold or to increase storm...
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Nov 30, 2015 15:18
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Aren't you only allowed to miss beneficial triggers though, and can't beneficial change? I seem to recall some discussion about forgetting bob's trigger when you're low vs. when you're not or something.
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Nov 30, 2015 15:23
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Punshing Rock isn't anything that new though. Sadly we can't call this Punishing my junk since we can't have fun names anymore.
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Nov 30, 2015 15:26
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alansmithee posted:Aren't you only allowed to miss beneficial triggers though, and can't beneficial change? I seem to recall some discussion about forgetting bob's trigger when you're low vs. when you're not or something. That was a policy that was in place for a very short time a few years ago. It has since evolved into the present policy.
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Nov 30, 2015 15:41
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Dr. Stab posted:That was a policy that was in place for a very short time a few years ago. It has since evolved into the present policy. I guess I'm confused then, I know they were talking yesterday about one of the outs for the storm player in the semifinals being to put his opponent within range of dying to confidant, couldn't he just "forget" that trigger then?
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Nov 30, 2015 15:44
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alansmithee posted:I guess I'm confused then, I know they were talking yesterday about one of the outs for the storm player in the semifinals being to put his opponent within range of dying to confidant, couldn't he just "forget" that trigger then? http://blogs.magicjudges.org/rulestips/2013/06/tournament-tuesday-dark-confidant-at-competitive-rel/ tl:dr if you miss it, your opponent can call a judge and have the trigger put on the stack.
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Nov 30, 2015 15:47
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alansmithee posted:I guess I'm confused then, I know they were talking yesterday about one of the outs for the storm player in the semifinals being to put his opponent within range of dying to confidant, couldn't he just "forget" that trigger then? It's your job to keep track of your own triggers. Your opponent doesn't have to (though they can). Intentionally "forgetting" your triggers is cheating and will get you disqualified.
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Nov 30, 2015 15:57
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Not really magic related but I know a bunch of goons in here are from Seattle and area. I'm stuck here on a 13 hour layover, what should I check out?
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Nov 30, 2015 18:35
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Today's Saffron Olive video is either trolling or he's getting to Kevin Crimin levels of not reading the cards or even attempting to pronounce them correctly. Match 2 in the Emeria deck video features "Sky Husser" vs. "Sierra Ascendant."
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Nov 30, 2015 18:51
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JerryLee posted:As far as I know it's not "cheating" even if it works; it's not as though casting the spell into Chalice is an illegal act. Not going to say it isn't a dick move though. The storm players could also simply be playing spells into the chalice to push up the storm count anyways, not just necessarily trying to get a spell to resolve. It really shouldn't be seen as a dick move in my opinion. At competitive REL it is the responsibility of the person who played the Chalice, and at regular its a prime learning opportunity for those who want to play such a card.
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Nov 30, 2015 18:52
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During what I consider my most skill testing victory, casting things into chalice to get young pyromancer triggers won the game.
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Nov 30, 2015 19:02
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Mikujin posted:Not really magic related but I know a bunch of goons in here are from Seattle and area. I'm stuck here on a 13 hour layover, what should I check out? Pike place is a fun touristy thing and there's lots of good restaurants nearby, and its close to where the light rail so you can get back to the airport pretty quickly(ish).
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Nov 30, 2015 19:02
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I managed to beat Chalice on 1 and Chalice on 2 in Modern by sticking a Pyromancer Ascension after Chalice for 1, firing spells into the chalices to turn on the ascension, then going off with Past in Flames just using the copied spells. Modern storm was such a fun and interesting deck to play before they printed Eidolon.
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Nov 30, 2015 19:06
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alansmithee posted:I guess I'm confused then, I know they were talking yesterday about one of the outs for the storm player in the semifinals being to put his opponent within range of dying to confidant, couldn't he just "forget" that trigger then? The important distinction here is that the opponent controls the Chalice trigger, and it's his job to remember it.
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Nov 30, 2015 19:39
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Boco_T posted:Today's Saffron Olive video is either trolling or he's getting to Kevin Crimin levels of not reading the cards or even attempting to pronounce them correctly. Match 2 in the Emeria deck video features "Sky Husser" vs. "Sierra Ascendant." His Tibalt videos from last week were painful to listen because I cringed every time he said Tibalt. I'm curious where he's from, to see if his unique pronunciations are a regional thing or just coming from someone who doesn't care how they sound.
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Nov 30, 2015 19:59
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JerryLee posted:As far as I know it's not "cheating" even if it works; it's not as though casting the spell into Chalice is an illegal act. Not going to say it isn't a dick move though. I'm pretty sure there are no legal moves you can make which are considered cheating, although legal moves can occasionally stray into unsportsmanlike conduct or stalling (e.g. activating Sensei's Divining Top 5 times a turn). NivMizzet posted:His Tibalt videos from last week were painful to listen because I cringed every time he said Tibalt. I'm curious where he's from, to see if his unique pronunciations are a regional thing or just coming from someone who doesn't care how they sound. There's actually at least a fair degree of disagreement on the proper pronunciation of the Shakespearean character's name. It's an archaic variant on Theobald, which itself is somewhat archaic. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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Nov 30, 2015 20:01
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Angry Grimace posted:I'm pretty sure there are no legal moves you can make which are considered cheating, although legal moves can occasionally stray into unsportsmanlike conduct or stalling (e.g. activating Sensei's Divining Top 5 times a turn). Cheating is when a player 1) commits an infraction 2) intentionally 3) for advantage. That's what it takes. If that infraction is slow play, then the infraction isn't USC - Cheating, it's USC - Stalling, but both are a DQ.
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Nov 30, 2015 20:25
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Was there any kind of word put out from R&D from the couple of leaks that were supposedly from Oath that popped up a week or so ago. The new basic land, Kozilek, and the other new land? Or were those revealed to be fake?
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Nov 30, 2015 20:27
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Boco_T posted:Today's Saffron Olive video is either trolling or he's getting to Kevin Crimin levels of not reading the cards or even attempting to pronounce them correctly. Match 2 in the Emeria deck video features "Sky Husser" vs. "Sierra Ascendant." Reminds me of Paul Cheon not knowing how to pronounce "bestow", which he kept saying beast-ow (like, "ow" that hurts) on streams.
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Nov 30, 2015 20:30
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:Was there any kind of word put out from R&D from the couple of leaks that were supposedly from Oath that popped up a week or so ago. The new basic land, Kozilek, and the other new land? Or were those revealed to be fake? They're not going to comment on leaks, but Maro's been dancing around it on his blog quite a bit which implies they're real. The most recent Uncharted Realms ended with Kozilek emerging as well.
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Nov 30, 2015 20:35
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:Was there any kind of word put out from R&D from the couple of leaks that were supposedly from Oath that popped up a week or so ago. The new basic land, Kozilek, and the other new land? Or were those revealed to be fake? They never comment on leaks. The one and only time they did was when the whole godbook got leaked, people got banned for it and that was the reason why. Even then I'm not sure they made a statement on it beforehand. They don't publically acknowledge leaks because it just encourages it.
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Nov 30, 2015 21:01
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I am still surprised so many people are calling the leaks fakes. We live in a time where the real leaks outnumber the fake ones by a good margin. Its time to give MTGS leaks the benefit of the doubt folks. Strange times we live in.
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Nov 30, 2015 21:15
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MiddleEastBeast posted:Reminds me of Paul Cheon not knowing how to pronounce "bestow", which he kept saying beast-ow (like, "ow" that hurts) on streams. Didn't some pro player get really frustrated with the word "Bivouac" last year?
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Nov 30, 2015 21:16
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Angry Grimace posted:There's actually at least a fair degree of disagreement on the proper pronunciation of the Shakespearean character's name. It's an archaic variant on Theobald, which itself is somewhat archaic. That's fair, I've just never heard it pronounced that way before, especially at an actual play. Angry Grimace posted:They're not going to comment on leaks, but Maro's been dancing around it on his blog quite a bit which implies they're real. The most recent Uncharted Realms ended with Kozilek emerging as well. Yeah, he's been doing some pretty obvious winking and nudging with things like commenting that he can't comment on unofficial spoilers the day that the leaks came out and hinting that we will get a new type of mana eventually but it won't be a variation of snow mana.
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Nov 30, 2015 21:17
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sperling got mad at bivouac, because he's a grown man
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black potus posted:sperling got mad at bivouac, because he's a grown man matt spergin'
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Nov 30, 2015 21:24
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I'm watching the lsv Sunday stream where he tries out Pauper and lol why haven't they banned cloud of fairies yet
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Nov 30, 2015 21:46
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netcat posted:I'm watching the lsv Sunday stream where he tries out Pauper and lol why haven't they banned cloud of fairies yet That card is infuriating, especially with spellstutter sprite. It requires you to have pyroblast or counterspell to function, or out threat them with a strategy like elves. I've been playing delverfiend, and occasionally I beat mono-U delver by baiting them into countering a preordain so I can blow a temur battle rage and kill them, but it is a bitch.
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Nov 30, 2015 21:52
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jassi007 posted:They never comment on leaks. The one and only time they did was when the whole godbook got leaked, people got banned for it and that was the reason why. Even then I'm not sure they made a statement on it beforehand. They don't publically acknowledge leaks because it just encourages it. Maro also wrote two different articles about the leaked Timeshifted card and their lawsuit against rancored_elf.
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I really hope he means it when he suggests this won't be Snow2.0 because that would just.... suck. I think I've come to the conclusion that I really hope this is a new, permanent templating change for colorless mana production. What are the other options? My comedy option would be that it is basically snow mana again, a psuedo-sixth color, but it can be used as any color if used to cast colorless spells, ie Devoid, because that's really the only way it doesn't both completely blow for limited and create a giant mechanical and design disconnect between it and BFZ
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Nov 30, 2015 22:42
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Boco_T posted:Today's Saffron Olive video is either trolling or he's getting to Kevin Crimin levels of not reading the cards or even attempting to pronounce them correctly. Match 2 in the Emeria deck video features "Sky Husser" vs. "Sierra Ascendant." As much as I love his videos, any time there's a game with a Titan (Frost, Primal... whatever), I get a little squicked out when he pronounces it as "tieIN". I mean come on dude, there's a big T right there in the middle of the word!
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Nov 30, 2015 23:02
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GonSmithe posted:Maro also wrote two different articles about the leaked Timeshifted card and their lawsuit against rancored_elf. I really wonder what that lawsuit settled for. WOTC's case was absurdly meritless and Maro's article on it was pretty gross. I can't even fathom what they expected some random dude to pay them (he couldn't even really afford a lawyer, he literally got another MTGS member to just sort of defend him for free).
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Angry Grimace posted:I really wonder what that lawsuit settled for. WOTC's case was absurdly meritless and Maro's article on it was pretty gross. I can't even fathom what they expected some random dude to pay them (he couldn't even really afford a lawyer, he literally got another MTGS member to just sort of defend him for free). If they don't make it into a huge hassle for the guy, even if they don't make money off it, they basically encourage people to do it. If the internet points do not have a significant cost to the leaker, then they'll leak all day errday.
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Sigma-X posted:If they don't make it into a huge hassle for the guy, even if they don't make money off it, they basically encourage people to do it. If the internet points do not have a significant cost to the leaker, then they'll leak all day errday. Except what that guy did wasn't even necessarily illegal, they just strong-armed some random dude who couldn't afford to fight back to prove a point, when the actual solution was to figure out who was sending this guy card info and loving fire them. It's gross. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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