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Honestly I find BLM so boring now that i'm thinking the next time I use it in a df dungeon i'll rp an ice mage just for a laugh. Or maybe a fire mage and scream constantly at the BRD/MCH for mp.
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Belzac posted:Fishing has the only storyline that extends outside of leveling quests. You literally save all the fish in the ocean. Nothing can compete. I forgot fishing actually had quests and didn't do any. Presumably I'm missing some amazing fishing-skill, but the only thing I ever need to catch is Pipira Pira and that's easy enough.
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at least you didn't find that BLM I played with that spammed Ruin and Thunder, and only Blizzard when they were low on mana
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Niton posted:Scholars have a ~200 potency / 3s, always on, free smart targeting healer that they can move around as necessary. TheRagamuffin posted:Really? I've been yelled at a lot recently for not having it. I guess that's just pubbies being pubbies. Swiftcast is life, though (often literally). Smart Car fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Hivac posted:Trusts got added only a few years ago (launch of Seekers), there's also a really clunky adventuring partner system where an npc follows you and autoattacks Yeah both of those also got added way late in EQ so I thought it'd be fair to compare them Back before Planes of Power EQ only had teleports to Druid Circles or Wizard Spires
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Doublestep posted:like it has good quality of life features like healing mode (i dont know if this was in FFXI at launch or a new feature, EQ added something like it a few years ago) If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, I wouldn't call /heal a quality of life feature since you did not have HP or MP regen unless you were using /heal, and /heal made you kneel. Which is one of many reasons why EXP parties in FFXI found a camp and just sat there without running around: Your healer needed MP and if they were walking around they weren't getting MP back. PLD tank? Guess what, they need take a knee between fights too. And of course, the time it took to go from almost 0 HP/MP to full while using /heal was significantly longer than the time it takes to heal to full in FFXIV without doing anything special. Playing BLM was literally "Cast a spell, cast a spell, eat cookie and sit down until the next fight starts". This is why the two jobs who could make other players passively regenerate MP were considered required for a good EXP group for a long time. Coincidentally, they were also the most rarely played jobs. Getting a good EXP party was a shitshow.
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Klades posted:If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, I wouldn't call /heal a quality of life feature since you did not have HP or MP regen unless you were using /heal, and /heal made you kneel. Which is one of many reasons why EXP parties in FFXI found a camp and just sat there without running around: Your healer needed MP and if they were walking around they weren't getting MP back. PLD tank? Guess what, they need take a knee between fights too. Playing a BRD made you a superstar in XI. It was one of the rare instances you would get invited to English -and- Japanese speaking parties. I miss playing those same 2-3 songs over and over forever.
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cat doter posted:I should check out ffxi one of these days since everything I hear about it sounds loving weird, like someone designed an MMO after only hearing what they were like second hand Unfortunately you can't really anymore. FFXI as it was is dead. Server pops are too low now. I resubbed for nostalgia a few months back and literally every single player on the server was in one single zone, in one party, just grinding the same mobs over and over and over to level all the way from 1 to max. gently caress that poo poo. XI was a pretty cool game, it had a WAY better story than Everquest or WoW had at the time. It was also balls-hard like Everquest, which I actually liked but it also meant I never hit max level. You had to find a group to do literally ANYTHING so many nights I'd spend hours just looking at people in zone and sending them tells asking for a tank or a healer or whatever. XIV captures most of the best aspects of XI while also being more fun to play. The only thing I really miss from XI was the way sub-classes could differentiate you. In XIV once you take a job you're restricted to only 2 classes to cross-class from, and you only get 3 skills from a small selection. Almost everybody picks the same options. Back in XI you'd have to pick a single sub-class, so you'd be like PLD/WHM or PLD/WAR and those different versions of paladin would have slightly more tanky or slightly more healery builds. In practice there were definitely several best combos and several combos you'd never want to do, but there were still a couple viable options for most classes which would let you kinda customize your class. Hivac posted:From what I understand it incorporated a lot of EQ poo poo which kinda was -the- mmo at the time Yeah its not wholly unlike EQ. It is different, but it definitely feels like they modeled the game on EQ. I mean WoW did the same thing, very blatantly. Its just that WoW is still around and has had so many expansions its unrecognizable now from what it launched as, but both WoW and XI were very EQ-based when they first came out. I'm a huge EQ nerd and I still play project1999 occasionally. Hivac posted:this got added way way way later on, during the so-called ~glory days~ the only real big teleports were the WHM crag ports Same with EQ though. Vanilla EQ the only ports were druids and wizards, and vanilla XI the only ports were WHM and I wanna say BLM and SMN but maybe that's my imagination. But then both EQ and XI later added easier ways to get around. EQ and XI and WoW also all had real-time ships that took several minutes to loop around from port to port, unlike XIV which just gives you a personal airship whenever you want. It made the game feel bigger than you and more alive, but it was also a huge pain in the rear end. Doublestep posted:Yeah both of those also got added way late in EQ so I thought it'd be fair to compare them EFB Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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The best part about XI if you haven't played it is the soundtrack, I constantly leave it on in the background while playing XIV. Its so drat good. XIV's is good too but not as amazing. Best song on the XI soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-if85nnGWMg
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Airship's a good song but it's not Selbina.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiGxNFlOO5k
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ApplesandOranges posted:Airship's a good song but it's not Selbina. I do love that violin. It was always so nice to poke your head in Selbina after spending forever on the blinding sands of Valkurm Dunes. I got excited during the event questline when the girl name-dropped Selbina and Mhaura  So much nostalgia for that period, but then when they showed screenshots of XI I was like "oh god did it really look that bad back then?" XIV is a really pretty game. Although XI was too for its time, XI still looks better than WoW in some ways. I also really love longfall - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIPg5XFfOMc sounds like something that should be played at a Renaissance Fair. P.S. Ishguard is the new Jeuno. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Zaphod42 posted:I also really love longfall - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIPg5XFfOMc sounds like something that should be played at a Renaissance Fair. The piano version is something that legit sounds like something you could hear on classical public radio. Has almost an early romantic era feel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tldbyFY2UOc
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Majumbo posted:The piano version is something that legit sounds like something you could hear on classical public radio. Has almost an early romantic era feel Oh wow, that's really beautiful. Hadn't heard that before. I wonder if that track was Uematsu or not. He's soooo good at writing beautiful piano pieces. I mean he's good at everything, but piano especially seems to be one of his best instruments to compose for. E: Hahaha, I called it. That's one of few tracks he actually did! Along with Airship. 
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Klades posted:If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, I wouldn't call /heal a quality of life feature since you did not have HP or MP regen unless you were using /heal, and /heal made you kneel. The best part about that was that, like in XIV, once you're more than 10 levels above an enemy, it will no longer aggro you. Unless you /heal. Then suddenly you become fair game to all enemies that aggro and can sense you (depending on how they sense).
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Verranicus posted:Playing a BRD made you a superstar in XI. It was one of the rare instances you would get invited to English -and- Japanese speaking parties. I miss playing those same 2-3 songs over and over forever. Playing in Japanese speaking parties was a really cool part of XI. Sometimes I'd be chatting away with people for an hour grinding mobs, and then somebody would run up and speak a bunch of kanji to us, and I'd be like "Sorry we only speak English" but then one of my party members would answer in Kanji and I'd be like  Plus you had all the fun jokes like (Hume)(Jerkin) (Mithra)(Fun)(Hole) (Please Invite Me)(One Inch Punch)(master)(bait) (Galka)(Sausage) (hand)(job) (bat)(man) etc. etc.
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Does anyone have the screengrab from one of the goon weddings with vows that were made using the translator phrases? It was amazing.
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Zaphod42 posted:I do love that violin. Violin you say? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVd6AvzGJP0
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Xenoveritas posted:The best part about that was that, like in XIV, once you're more than 10 levels above an enemy, it will no longer aggro you. And don't forget that for most jobs, trying to fight even a mob ten levels below you might not go too well, and if you get two you might as well run.
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Zaphod42 posted:I also really love longfall - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIPg5XFfOMc sounds like something that should be played at a Renaissance Fair. okay this is nerdy as heck but that's the track for "Ronfaure," "longfall" is a misreading 
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Suitaru posted:okay this is nerdy as heck but that's the track for "Ronfaure," "longfall" is a misreading Yeah you're right, and the piano version the other guy posted had the right name. Oxygen Deficiency posted:Does anyone have the screengrab from one of the goon weddings with vows that were made using the translator phrases? It was amazing. The WHAT? 
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Klades posted:And don't forget that for most jobs, trying to fight even a mob ten levels below you might not go too well, and if you get two you might as well run. and you would be running for awhile
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Robo Reagan posted:and you would be running for awhile all you had to do was hope it was a mob that tracked by scent (no in-game notifier whether it was, or indeed whether tracking by scent was a thing, except the existence of the useless spell Deodorize) and maybe find some water to run across while having enough of a headstart so that it didn't immediately detect you again by sight or sound easy
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Zaphod42 posted:Playing in Japanese speaking parties was a really cool part of XI. Sometimes I'd be chatting away with people for an hour grinding mobs, and then somebody would run up and speak a bunch of kanji to us, and I'd be like "Sorry we only speak English" but then one of my party members would answer in Kanji and I'd be like Half of DGKK's chat is making jokes using the autotranslate function, so it's not like it doesn't exist in XIV! It's also the other reason why {Assize} is the best ability.
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seiferguy posted:Half of DGKK's chat is making jokes using the autotranslate function, so it's not like it doesn't exist in XIV! Sounds like I need to join DGKK then
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So DGKK is where you go after Chairman kicks you out of PBC for excessive macro/auto translate jokes in chat?
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nobody has made a new autotranslate joke since the Heavensward beta
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Using whatever the ACT equivalent was in FFXI to change the zone music to this one everywhere really made grinding XP more peaceful. Probably my favorite track from XI (really fun to play on the guitar as well!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TnSMXcp2Hg e: also looking at the artwork on that video they really made the playable races look a lot less...cartoony I guess? for XIV. Those faces...at least in-game the graphics were bad enough that you couldn't tell, but that image is creepy especially the Tarutaru Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Do you guys not have programs that play music for you?
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Belzac posted:Do you guys not have programs that play music for you? It really whips the llama's rear end. I used to listen to music while I played MMOs but these days I watch Netflix on my 2nd monitor instead 
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Belzac posted:Do you guys not have programs that play music for you? Not entirely sure, but I don't think you could alt-tab FFXI without running some kind of windower program. I know this was the case for Everquest. Got to stop those cheaters using third party tools, y'all.
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Belzac posted:Do you guys not have programs that play music for you? It's kind of nice to have music that contextually changes from what you're doing in game.
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Philonius posted:Not entirely sure, but I don't think you could alt-tab FFXI without running some kind of windower program. I know this was the case for Everquest. Got to stop those cheaters using third party tools, y'all. Yeah with XI I'm pretty sure this was the case. I remember there being some 3rd party tool for running XI in a window for sure. drunk asian neighbor posted:Using whatever the ACT equivalent was in FFXI to change the zone music to this one everywhere really made grinding XP more peaceful. Probably my favorite track from XI (really fun to play on the guitar as well!) I remember doing that to XI once, but then I just got really loving frustrated because every time I switched zones I'd hear the same first 10 seconds of the same song over and over and over.
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Can I wing void ark or do I need to watch a video?
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I remember the maps sites for EQ and printing maps out. I kind of miss that in a sick sort of way.
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void ark is trash tier casual content so you can just apply your face to keyboard and win
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Just put someone on follow and play another game while you do Void Ark.
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As long as you're not tanking you can do Void Ark without any clue as to what you're doing. If you are tanking there's like one fight you need to pay attention to unless you're stupid and try to MT the place.
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Kwyndig posted:As long as you're not tanking you can do Void Ark without any clue as to what you're doing. The real problem is if the 23 other people don't know what they're doing.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah with XI I'm pretty sure this was the case. I remember there being some 3rd party tool for running XI in a window for sure. Yep. For the longest time alt-tabbing out of Final Fantasy XI would crash the game, with the excuse being it would somehow stop cheating which it of course didn't. The real reason is that they didn't bother handling the Direct3D "you lost exclusive mode, you need to reinitialize your graphics engine" message.
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