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Helsing posted:Apologies for dissapearing midway through a huge discussion I helped to instigate but I've been a bit swamped with work recently. I just wanted to check in and assure people I'll be back and posting long, verbose walls of text any day now. The two best posters in the thread, in one post! 
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Helsing posted:Apologies for dissapearing midway through a huge discussion I helped to instigate but I've been a bit swamped with work recently. I just wanted to check in and assure people I'll be back and posting long, verbose walls of text any day now. Don't sweat it, it's not like the NDP's going to be doing much for the next four years 
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THC posted:Debate & Discussion: The Problem Attic › Canadian Politics: I'm kinda jacking off at the prospect of you being financially ruined tbh... Canadians are human garbage. Be more concise: Canadian Politics Megathread: Canadians are human garbage
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JawKnee posted:
Wait, which Pearce? I think I have him next semester.
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Helsing posted:Apologies for dissapearing midway through a huge discussion I helped to instigate but I've been a bit swamped with work recently. I just wanted to check in and assure people I'll be back and posting long, verbose walls of text any day now. As someone with CI on ignore it would be great if people would stop quoting him or responding to his idiotic posts.
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cougar cub posted:As someone with CI on ignore it would be great if people would stop quoting him or responding to his idiotic posts. Maybe if you put everyone on ignore it will work out for you.
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cougar cub posted:As someone with CI on ignore it would be great if people would stop quoting him or responding to his idiotic posts. Lowtax should axe the ignore function entirely, gently caress your carebear hug bubble. 
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This is amazing thank you. Conservative Alberta makes Ford Nation seem ideologically rigorous. 
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Pearce put on Koyaanisqatsi for one of our lectures and spent another showing us pictures of his motorcycle and the time he met the guy from the movie Sniper. He also put the answers to the midterm on the overhead the week before it and said that he still gets a bell curve when he does this. Then he disappeared for the last third of the semester and we got another guy.
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THC posted:Is he still concerned about the "feminization of education" Dunno, never came up, but that sounds like a thing he would be concerned about. JawKnee posted:
 (I'm going to be here forever) Gus Hobbleton posted:Wait, which Pearce? I think I have him next semester. If you're taking 320, that's the one. Talk in class, and don't be afraid to argue with him, he seems a lot angrier than he actually is.
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The best part of going to SFU is you dont have to be embarrassed by UBC's rape scandalsPK loving SUBBAN posted:Conservative Alberta makes Ford Nation seem ideologically rigorous. Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Duck Rodgers posted:Actually the government did impose a change on the governance system of First Nations recently (and has many times in the past). It was called the First Nations Financial Transparency Act and was passed in 2012. The bill was championed by the Canadian Taxpayers Foundation and the CPC, and relied on racist imagery of corrupt chiefs to impose stricter auditing standards on First Nations communities than any Canadian community. The general idea was that the problems on reserves are due to corruption, rather than long term government underfunding and broken treaty obligations. The Transparency Act was widely opposed by First Nations communities, as they already face strict auditing rules, and yet the government passed it anyway. In fact the government passed a number of bills (housing, education) that directly changed the way First Nations communities operated that were all opposed by the actual communities. This despite the Canadian government having a treaty obligation to consult with First Nations. Citing the AFN on corruption on reserves is like citing the NRA on gun violence in America. Shouting "That's racist, that's racist, you are a racist" to every suggestion that chiefs or band councils aren't serving their people's best interest, and impossible to take seriously in the face of stories like the 800,000 bonus awarded to the chief of a 80 person first nation for "economic development" the same year as a major land deal with the BC government. A bonus that would not have been made public were it not for the Transparency Act (which is far from perfect, I agree).
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Where do sfu comp sci grads go after graduation anyway? I haven't met a dumb sfu cs (or eng,applied ciences) grad yet but I work with only a small group. Please don't say hootsuite
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Into the bowels of some monolithic corporation where they can be grossly underpaid and never see the light of day again. Uvic comp sci grads get much cooler jobs.
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I got a job at a startup in my 2nd year and dropped out in my 4th after we got acquired. A lot of my classmates went to Facebook, Sophos, SAP (lol), and Blackberry (double lol).
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THC posted:That's one story. How about the Attawapiskat co-manager on trial for fraud and theft? How many isolated incidents does it take to add up to a valid concern?
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Rime posted:Into the bowels of some monolithic corporation where they can be grossly underpaid and never see the light of day again. Bro, i don't think you're hanging out with a big enough sample size of people or you are being given bad information. My friends and I in undergrad were probably the bottom 10% of our grad class and without exception, my friends are very successful in their careers. Many have left Canada of course but even those that have stayed have done well. Not everyone graduates from undergrad into an ideal job. I certainly didn't. But the torture of a brutal undergrad teaches you tenacity and persistence. That's 75% of the value of a degree.
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THC posted:I got a job at a startup in my 2nd year and dropped out in my 4th after we got acquired. A lot of my classmates went to Facebook, Sophos, SAP (lol), and Blackberry (double lol). Facebook in Vancouver or the bay area?
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The concerns are valid with regard to those specific individuals and nations. It is not valid when applied to First Nations in the general, or to people who rightly point out racist stereotyping.Cultural Imperial posted:Facebook in Vancouver or the bay area? Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Constant Hamprince posted:How about the Attawapiskat co-manager on trial for fraud and theft? How many isolated incidents does it take to add up to a valid concern? It's certainly a problem but people make it out to be a first-nations problem and how we need to swoop in there and stop all this wasteful greed and corruption while shrugging and scandals and waste 100x as bad done by government or the private sector. They're about on par with any small town government as anecdotes go. And you could add up every FIRST NATIONS CORRUPTION scandal in a year and it won't even compare to a single corrupt military procurement or private sector hand-job.
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Baronjutter posted:It's certainly a problem but people make it out to be a first-nations problem and how we need to swoop in there and stop all this wasteful greed and corruption while shrugging and scandals and waste 100x as bad done by government or the private sector. That's true. And where it exists, the problem is made so much worse by how little the reserves generally get in terms of federal funding. The Conservatives insisting on 'transparency' from reserve governments was massively hypocritical considering that they ran the least transparent federal government in modern Canadian history.
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Cultural Imperial posted:Please don't say hootsuite A bunch of my classmates from UVic either went to Amazon, RIM, or Hootsuite lol
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Jesus Christ rim smh At least they learned a thing or two about embedded systems coding.
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Constant Hamprince posted:Citing the AFN on corruption on reserves is like citing the NRA on gun violence in America. Shouting "That's racist, that's racist, you are a racist" to every suggestion that chiefs or band councils aren't serving their people's best interest, and impossible to take seriously in the face of stories like the 800,000 bonus awarded to the chief of a 80 person first nation for "economic development" the same year as a major land deal with the BC government. A bonus that would not have been made public were it not for the Transparency Act (which is far from perfect, I agree). This is an example of why this act is broken though. This is straight up not my business or problem. It's revenue from a land deal and an agreement between the band and a guy who may or may not have actually deserved that much money. It's not even government funding, so the normal bullshit excuse about why I should know about it doesn't exist. This should be disclosed to the band, and likely was. The transparency act has never been about that. There's no reason this is the general public's business. For all I know, he did something to deserve a commission. On the other hand, he might be a theiving bastard. I don't have enough information to know either way and it's not my place to be mad about it unless the 80 people it actually effects want something done about it. He wasn't the one who put the clause in the contract and his community re-elected him pretty convincingly... So, why should I be concerned about it? http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/british-columbia/kwikwetlem-chief-ron-giesbrecht-re-elected-despite-million-dollar-payday-1.3020653 Edit: not that it isn't distasteful... But no more than anything else involving huge sums of money. T.C. fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Constant Hamprince posted:Citing the AFN on corruption on reserves is like citing the NRA on gun violence in America. Shouting "That's racist, that's racist, you are a racist" to every suggestion that chiefs or band councils aren't serving their people's best interest, and impossible to take seriously in the face of stories like the 800,000 bonus awarded to the chief of a 80 person first nation for "economic development" the same year as a major land deal with the BC government. A bonus that would not have been made public were it not for the Transparency Act (which is far from perfect, I agree). I bet that's the only anecdote you have. Yet you still feel like it's not racist to use that to generalize about 617 diverse community governments. Sure there are incidents of corruption in reserve governments, as there are in the federal government and provincial governments and municipal governments. But I certainly wouldn't say all municipal governments are corrupt and you shouldn't say that all first nations governments are corrupt. Nor should you say that corruption is the cause of poverty, cause it's not. The cause is underfunding. Also the AFN is not like the NRA. Strange thing to say. Are you perhaps saying that the AFN is corrupt? Surely you have evidence of this corruption. Evidence that the government of Canada hasn't found in the 60 000 annual reports they collectively file. E: also what subcrid said. Canadian politicians don't have to disclose their personal wealth so why should First nations have to? What's Paul Martin's wealth and where does it come from? Harper? Duck Rodgers fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Cultural Imperial posted:Jesus Christ rim smh
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StatsCan says that in 2011 there were over 600 First Nations bands and 3,100 reserves across Canada. So yeah, keep naming cases of corruption, until you get into the double digits you're probably talking about somewhere in the region of 1%. For comparison, an internal study of the RCMP from 1995 to 2005 found 322 incidents of corruption by RCMP officers andTransparency International in 2011 said that Canada had the worst record for corruption and bribery in the G7 and one of the worst in the developed world. So clearly what we should do is get the RCMP to investigate rampant First Nations corruption.
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:This is amazing thank you. lol man that would be a wicked event to go to please. the canadian taxpayers federation isn't an alberta only organization, you know the group that put this on if you read the article, so you're bringing up all albertans being so crazy we make rob ford look good when there was a handful of people at this "sold out" event. The hate for Alberta is hilarious you should look into your mirror friend 
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While we're on the subject...quote:Financiers are required by law to scrutinise politically exposed persons and their financial transactions more carefully, confirm sources of funds and report transactions to the government when those transactions are suspicious or have no legitimate business purpose. In the MUHC P3 infrastructure case, a number of red flags were present including that $22m was wired to an offshore tax haven to a company with a beneficial ownership structure for no legal purpose. But our governments have such great ground to stand on when accusing First Nations of corruption.
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vyelkin posted:StatsCan says that in 2011 there were over 600 First Nations bands and 3,100 reserves across Canada. I wonder how much of that is accounted for by SNC-Lavalin and the Canadian mining industry. See also: Angry Old White Conservative Dude yelling about reporters cheating on their taxes.
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vyelkin posted:While we're on the subject... Yes, it would be a racist double standard to assert that corruption on the part of the RCMP is acceptable but those on the part of First Nations band governments is not. I'd like to remind everybody that Facebook the CTV News website still exist, there are no shortage of racist arguments online that you can criticize without having to project them onto other posters here.
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You guys are going to need to step up your shitposting game with CI on the sidelines for a week. Melian, I'm going to need you to take the morning shift. Ikantski you're on spot duty, and someone see if they can get hold of HAL to get him out of retirement.
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Scaramouche posted:You guys are going to need to step up your shitposting game with CI on the sidelines for a week. Melian, I'm going to need you to take the morning shift. Ikantski you're on spot duty, and someone see if they can get hold of HAL to get him out of retirement. I've got the race hate covered apparently.
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Constant Hamprince posted:I've got the race hate covered apparently. Quick, tell us your race so you can be racist safely.
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vyelkin posted:Be more concise: Canadian Politics Megathread: Canadians are human garbage We should split it up appropriately, like so Canada Debt Bubble: I'm kinda jacking off at the prospect of you being financially ruined tbh Canadian Politics Megathread: Canadians are human garbage I really feel the canpol title is more of a public service message, warning any oblivious traveller that the veneer of Canadian civility and tolerance is paper thin
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Kafka Esq. posted:Quick, tell us your race so you can be racist safely. White as the pure driven Ontario snow, falling gently onto the most WASPy of Toronto suburbs, Kafka Esq. To excuse my racism need point only to the many black childhood friends I would have, hypothetically, if I had gone to school in a place where there were any.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/john-tory-climate-change-1.3344470quote:Toronto mayor John Tory emphatically declared that Toronto will continue to invest in public transit to help fight climate change. Crush car culture.
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Constant Hamprince posted:I've got the race hate covered apparently.
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Coolwhoami posted:If you're taking 320, that's the one. Talk in class, and don't be afraid to argue with him, he seems a lot angrier than he actually is. Oh right that Pearce. He's retired now and the guy they have teaching 320 in his place is a tool. Never got to take any classes with him.
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