WiS SLB Season 26: Long Slow Goodbye

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ArtVandelay: Jul 13, 2004

Bob, you've broken my heart. I will never be able to forgive you.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:16

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 09:19

kensei: Dec 27, 2007; He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOU7MdkwyOk

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:16

gyroball: Jul 29, 2003; Fortunately, the people found a mighty Rosenthal, called Trevor.

Go go safe picks (also locking up a gimmick player I used a lot back in the day)

edit: who was mostly valuable for staying under salary cap but welp

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:19

Power of Pecota: Aug 4, 2007; Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Are we clear to submit for round 2? I'm SHOOTIN FROM THE HEART

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:22

Julio Cruz: May 19, 2006

8 picks for Kevin Brown. Awesome.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:23

Atheistdeals.com: Aug 2, 2004

Got my Dodger babieeeezz

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:25

Bob Shabazz: Oct 21, 2008; At 12:17 a.m. MU police spotted Mauk, 19, run a stop sign while driving his scooter east on Kentucky Boulevard - with two female passengers on board.

I wanted to get round one up fast so I'm not ready for more picks yet. I'll let you know soon when round two starts.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:26

saffi faildotter: Mar 2, 2007

I'm very surprised that the one player I did get was Roger Clemens, I figured I'd get Knoblauch or Erstad and miss on all the pitchers

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:30

kensei: Dec 27, 2007; He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!

No one gets these guys:

code:

Adrian Beltre
Albert Belle
Alex Rodriguez
Andruw Jones
Barry Bonds
Ben Sheets
Bryce Harper
Chuck Knoblauch
Clayton Kershaw
Curt Schilling
Darin Erstad
Eric Gagne
Gary Sheffield
Greg Maddux 
Hideo Nomo
Jake Arrieta
Jason Schmidt
Jeff Bagwell
Joe Mauer 
Johan Santana
Jose Bautista
Kenny Lofton
Kevin Brown
Koji Uehara
Larry Walker
Manny Ramirez
Mark McGwire
Matt Harvey
Nomar Garciaparra
Pedro Martinez
Randy Johnson
Roberto Alomar
Roy Halladay
Sammy Sosa
Todd Helton
Tony Gwynn
Zack Greinke

These players were taken successfully:

code:

Albert Pujols
Barry Larkin
Bret Boone
Carlos Beltran
Chipper Jones
Chris Carpenter 
Chris Sale
Clay Buchholz
Coors Field
Dee Gordon
Dodger Stadium
Doug Drabek
Edgar Martinez
Eric Chavez
Frank Thomas
Garrett Richards
Grady Sizemore
Hanley Ramirez
Hong-Chih Kuo
Ichiro
Jacoby Ellsbury
Jason Giambi
Jim Edmonds
Jose Fernandez
Juan Guzman
Ken Caminiti
Luis Castillo
Marcus Giles
Mariano Rivera
Matt Kemp
Matt Williams
Max Scherzer
Mike Mussina
Mike Piazza
Mike Trout
Pat Hentgen
Paul Goldschmidt
Paul Molitor
Roger Clemens
Tim Lincecum
Tim Salmon
Todd Hundley
Troy Tulowitzki
Vernon Wells
Vladimir Guerrero
Wade Boggs
Yu Darvish

kensei fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Dec 2, 2015

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:31

ArtVandelay: Jul 13, 2004

Male. Bi. Unix. posted:

I'm very surprised that the one player I did get was Roger Clemens, I figured I'd get Knoblauch or Erstad and miss on all the pitchers

I was so close to picking Roger. Should have done it

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:31

gardenald: Jul 23, 2007; In the end, it comes down to throwing one pitch after another, and seeing what happens. With each new consequence, the game begins to take shape.

Bob Shabazz posted:

I wanted to get round one up fast so I'm not ready for more picks yet. I'll let you know soon when round two starts.

Soz boss I sent mine already, ignore them please and I'll send them again when you tell me to

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:34

Devo: Jul 9, 2001; Caught Cubs Posting

Son of a loving bitch I didn't get Larry Walker? He was supposed to be my lock MVP

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:34

Bob Shabazz: Oct 21, 2008; At 12:17 a.m. MU police spotted Mauk, 19, run a stop sign while driving his scooter east on Kentucky Boulevard - with two female passengers on board.

I'm not going to accept picks tonight, I need time to come up with my list. Any time after midnight Mountain time is fine, I'll send mine to the first set I open tomorrow.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:36

ManifunkDestiny: Aug 2, 2005; THE ONLY THING BETTER THAN THE SEAHAWKS IS RUSSELL WILSON'S TAINT SWEAT

Seahawks #1 fan since 2014.

Edgar and Garrett Richards. Just who you want to start a franchise with.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:43

kensei: Dec 27, 2007; He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!

ManifunkDestiny posted:

Edgar and Garrett Richards. Just who you want to start a franchise with.

I almost picked Edgar. Nicely done.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:51

JosefStalinator: Oct 9, 2007; Come Tbilisi if you want to live.; Grimey Drawer

Nice, I hoped everyone would forget that Big Time Timmy Jim was good at one point.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 05:56

NutShellBill: Dec 4, 2004; I AM SPUTNIK'S PARACHUTE ACCOUNT

Power of Pecota posted:

Zamboni Jesus also picked Barry Bonds so no they didn't.

I'm guessing NutShellBill hates me now since we were both the only ones to block each other on Ben Sheets AND Tony Gwynn

Nope. You are clearly a gentleman of discernment and taste.

Really wishing I'd got at least two of my picks, though.

You and me, Chipper. But I'mma call you Larry.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 06:46

NutShellBill: Dec 4, 2004; I AM SPUTNIK'S PARACHUTE ACCOUNT

Devo posted:

Son of a loving bitch I didn't get Larry Walker? He was supposed to be my lock MVP

No, we did not get him. Maybe we can split him? 320 ABs each?

Also!

When are round 2 picks due?

# ? Dec 2, 2015 07:21

Pumpkin McPastry: Mar 8, 2004; What else do I have to do to impress you people?

My life was great before this and now my life is terrible.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 12:19

Accident Underwater: Oct 21, 2005; You look like a star!

Pumpkin McPastry posted:

My life was great before this and now my life is terrible.

Put this in the ol' WIS.txt file

# ? Dec 2, 2015 13:42

Julio Cruz: May 19, 2006

Sent my round 2 picks in.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 14:24

vincentpricesboner: Sep 3, 2006; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

This is my first season on What if Sports. Can someone help me here with a bit of strategy based on this leagues rules of no DH. So I drafted Paul Molitor for example, but the same idea for someone like Frank Thomas. If you want to use one of their best offensive seasons, where they happened to play the majority of their time in real life at DH , but played 20 games at 1b, can we draft them from that year to be our full time 1b, or do they only get to play 100 ABs or whatever because thats how often they played the field in that season?

# ? Dec 2, 2015 14:56

regfairfield: May 22, 2005

I either started off strong or more likely I have no idea what goes into a good WiS team.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 14:59

Ivan Drago: Jan 17, 2003

zapplez posted:

This is my first season on What if Sports. Can someone help me here with a bit of strategy based on this leagues rules of no DH. So I drafted Paul Molitor for example, but the same idea for someone like Frank Thomas. If you want to use one of their best offensive seasons, where they happened to play the majority of their time in real life at DH , but played 20 games at 1b, can we draft them from that year to be our full time 1b, or do they only get to play 100 ABs or whatever because thats how often they played the field in that season?

You can play a guy at any position as often as you would like. There is no PA or defensive restriction in that sense. You could play Molitor all 162 games at SS if you wanted, although this would be a terrible idea since he does not have any ratings at that position. The exception may be RF which sees the fewest opportunities. In general, anyone position player can play any position for any length of time. It's not capped.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 15:03

vincentpricesboner: Sep 3, 2006; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

And will our league be bound by this 80 million max salary for the team rule?

# ? Dec 2, 2015 15:26

angrygodofjebus: Aug 25, 2005; Drink it up and hunker down

zapplez posted:

And will our league be bound by this 80 million max salary for the team rule?

No, there is no cap for this league.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 15:33

Zamboni Jesus: Jul 3, 2007; We don't really care about what that bug-eyed fat walrus has to say

Ivan Drago posted:

You can play a guy at any position as often as you would like. There is no PA or defensive restriction in that sense. You could play Molitor all 162 games at SS if you wanted, although this would be a terrible idea since he does not have any ratings at that position. The exception may be RF which sees the fewest opportunities. In general, anyone position player can play any position for any length of time. It's not capped.

generally infielders can play in the outfield without it being disastrous, but outfielders in the infield is not a good idea unless they have ratings for said infield positions.

i once played jose bautista at ss and he committed over 500 errors.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 16:50

ManifunkDestiny: Aug 2, 2005; THE ONLY THING BETTER THAN THE SEAHAWKS IS RUSSELL WILSON'S TAINT SWEAT

Seahawks #1 fan since 2014.

kensei posted:

No one gets these guys:

code:

Adrian Beltre
Alex Rodriguez
Andruw Jones
Barry Bonds
Ben Sheets
Bryce Harper
Chuck Knoblauch
Clayton Kershaw
Curt Schilling
Darin Erstad
Eric Gagne
Gary Sheffield
Greg Maddux 
Hideo Nomo
Jake Arrieta
Jason Schmidt
Jeff Bagwell
Joe Mauer 
Johan Santana
Jose Bautista
Kenny Lofton
Kevin Brown
Koji Uehara
Larry Walker
Manny Ramirez
Mark McGwire
Matt Harvey
Nomar Garciaparra
Pedro Martinez
Randy Johnson
Roberto Alomar
Roy Halladay
Sammy Sosa
Todd Helton
Tony Gwynn
Zack Greinke

This list is missing Albert Belle.

Also, just to be clear, we cannot draft from the black list OR from the list of players taken already, correct?

# ? Dec 2, 2015 17:21

Julio Cruz: May 19, 2006

I don't know if there's a rule against it per se but I honestly don't know why you'd want to.

Ivan Drago posted:

You can play a guy at any position as often as you would like. There is no PA or defensive restriction in that sense. You could play Molitor all 162 games at SS if you wanted, although this would be a terrible idea since he does not have any ratings at that position. The exception may be RF which sees the fewest opportunities. In general, anyone position player can play any position for any length of time. It's not capped.

So even if one of my players only managed 300PA in one season through injury, I can give them 600PA? How does this affect their stats?

Julio Cruz fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Dec 2, 2015

# ? Dec 2, 2015 17:27

Devo: Jul 9, 2001; Caught Cubs Posting

Julio Cruz posted:

I don't know if there's a rule against it per se but I honestly don't know why you'd want to.

So even if one of my players only managed 300PA in one season through injury, I can give them 600PA? How does this affect their stats?

They will perform very badly if you push their innings/PA limits too much. Otherwise you could use guys like 2003 Eric Gagne as a starter every day. If I'm remembering correctly you can usually get about 10% over their listed playing time without performance degrading too badly.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 17:35

Ivan Drago: Jan 17, 2003

Julio Cruz posted:

So even if one of my players only managed 300PA in one season through injury, I can give them 600PA? How does this affect their stats?

That previous response was to a slightly different question. If a hypothetical real life player had 600 PA - 300 of which came with him at 1B and 300 at DH - that doesn't mean you have to follow those same splits. You have 600 PA and can play him all year at 1B (or any position depending on how daring you want to be).

In your case, if you only have 300 PA then that's all you're going to get. Like Devo says though, you can usually push it a bit before they completely fall apart.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 17:44

Accident Underwater: Oct 21, 2005; You look like a star!

Devo posted:

They will perform very badly if you push their innings/PA limits too much. Otherwise you could use guys like 2003 Eric Gagne as a starter every day. If I'm remembering correctly you can usually get about 10% over their listed playing time without performance degrading too badly.

I think, generally, better pitchers can be stretched a bit more too because it goes by pitch count as opposed to actual innings. Less batters faced allows for more innings.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 17:44

kensei: Dec 27, 2007; He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!

ManifunkDestiny posted:

This list is missing Albert Belle.

Fixed in our spreadsheet and I updated the post.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 17:49

Zamboni Jesus: Jul 3, 2007; We don't really care about what that bug-eyed fat walrus has to say

in general i think the ideal is something like having a lineup with declining PA of something like

720
700
680
660
640
620
600
580
560

at which point you should be able to use your set lineup every game without getting fatigued and needing to have a bench. in practice this doesn't really work in theme leagues because the theme restrictions but the basic PA requirements hold.

having 950-1000 starting pitcher IP and at least 1400 good pitcher innings is more important than having enough PA i think though.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 17:50

Bob Shabazz: Oct 21, 2008; At 12:17 a.m. MU police spotted Mauk, 19, run a stop sign while driving his scooter east on Kentucky Boulevard - with two female passengers on board.

I've updated the second post with the blacklist as well as the link to the blacklist Google Doc.

16 sets of picks in so far!

# ? Dec 2, 2015 19:29

JosefStalinator: Oct 9, 2007; Come Tbilisi if you want to live.; Grimey Drawer

Bob Shabazz posted:

I've updated the second post with the blacklist as well as the link to the blacklist Google Doc.

16 sets of picks in so far!

Mine will come later tonight - maybe set a deadline for tomorrow, sometime after you're done with work or whatever?

# ? Dec 2, 2015 19:56

Bob Shabazz: Oct 21, 2008; At 12:17 a.m. MU police spotted Mauk, 19, run a stop sign while driving his scooter east on Kentucky Boulevard - with two female passengers on board.

I don't really want to set hard deadlines. If there are stragglers I'll talk with them and figure it out.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 20:23

ManifunkDestiny: Aug 2, 2005; THE ONLY THING BETTER THAN THE SEAHAWKS IS RUSSELL WILSON'S TAINT SWEAT

Seahawks #1 fan since 2014.

Picks are in. I fully expect to be skunked this round.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 20:24

Pumpkin McPastry: Mar 8, 2004; What else do I have to do to impress you people?

Mine are in. Would be cool to get more than 100 innings and 0 PAs out of these but we shall see.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 20:38

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Power of Pecota: Aug 4, 2007; Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

ManifunkDestiny posted:

Picks are in. I fully expect to be skunked this round.

I have two picks that I think I'm an idiot for submitting (although I thought the same thing about Mike Trout who I really wanted to pair up for a potential Salmon/Trout OF)

# ? Dec 2, 2015 20:54

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